My bad experience with a local MMJ wholesaler :-(

[gladstoned]

I believe there is a chance original info got confused or something. It does kinda look bad, but look at subs response. Even with the response you provided, I don't see him saying you sent out mass email if he didn't think it. If he just thought you became too much of asshole, then he'd say so. He could be trying to figure out who sent the mass email right now. You know what I'm saying? This is common shit for them - not for you. Give him the courtesy of reviewing everything real quick. Then maybe he says he stills thinks you are asshole, or makes shit right. lmao. I really really don't think you over reacted though bro. What have you done? Post thread asking if you have right to be butt hurt over deal? That isn't over reacting. Your butt should be sore, that sucks man.

 

[TheMan13]

I believe there is a chance original info got confused or something. It does kinda look bad, but look at subs response. Even with the response you provided, I don't see him saying you sent out mass email if he didn't think it. If he just thought you became too much of asshole, then he'd say so. He could be trying to figure out who sent the mass email right now. You know what I'm saying? This is common shit for them - not for you. Give him the courtesy of reviewing everything real quick. Then maybe he says he stills thinks you are asshole, or makes shit right. lmao. I really really don't think you over reacted though bro. What have you done? Post thread asking if you have right to be butt hurt over deal? That isn't over reacting. Your butt should be sore, that sucks man.

I hear ya brother. I must say that I was quite taken back by Sub's statement "The fact he had 40 people mass contact us is half the issue just so ya know." Actually I am surprised he responded at all, but as nothing could be further from the truth, I look forward to him justifying this "fact" and/or apologizing...

I sure hope Sub is not accusing me of a Denial of Service attack here, as that is a crime. I do have extensive tech education and experience. I have shared this with Sub in the past as TGAGenetics.com had some glaring tech issues I had helped him resolve.

 

[abe supercro]

I wouldn't count on any kind of reasonable response at this point... based on the initial replies and visible modus operandi, this company has already begun to attempt to sweep it under. the corporate response sounded like one of annoyance IMO. No "sincere" apology, No good faith free-pack-o-beans just the dismissive run-around bullshit. TGA you can do better than that, even if this situation is not what was entirely expected by you.

"Promise Less, Deliver More"
-Harvey Mackay, author of swim w the sharks without being eaten alive.

 

[bloodytrichomes]

So you just pick apart what I say that you don't agree with? No response to that fact that you can go get any tga seeds you want at about 20 different places in SE Michigan alone, who knows how many around the state.

Let me guess, you're not really a state licensed caregiver or patient? Otherwise why not bite the bullet and go get your seeds anywhere same day, if you getting Meds as soon as possible is the most important thing?

Try to look at situations from all angles. From my angle, your bad experience with said "MMJ wholesaler" aka seed rep, aka normal person with another job probably not related to the industry, was mostly your fault.

Btw I don't really like TGA, I know that subcool is a dick and that he stole some of his genes that put him on the map. My opinion is solely from an objective point of view. So I'm not defending TGA. Just calling it like I see it.

wow sub stoled his genes? thats harsh

 

[Rare D MI]

I ran into a seed distributor from Oregon for a company called dynasty seeds in Amsterdam last year that told a very convincing story about sub getting his mom for the space queen in dubious ways from his friend that is the breeder of dynasty.

 

[TheMan13]

I ran into a seed distributor from Oregon for a company called dynasty seeds in Amsterdam last year that told a very convincing story about sub getting his mom for the space queen in dubious ways from his friend that is the breeder of dynasty.

I have an odd take here. Space Queen is one of my favorite strains to come out of the BCGA. A perfect mix of their Romulan and Brothers Grimm's Cindy 99. All of these breeders were underground at that time and the "grey area" has been the reason of many conspiracy theories.

That said, Sub knew what he had with that bitch and ran with it. Sub is now TGA and I do believe I have thanked him personally in the past for keeping her alive in his breeding. Say what you will about the man, but you cannot deny that eye. I hope that no one assumes this thread questions the actual genetics offed by TGA. I am only addressing the organizations business practices here.

 

[TheMan13]

Well I've made another mistake here guys, I decided to respond to Sub after all

On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:57 AM, I wrote:


Sub:


I had really not intended to respond to this email as it's content does not deserve a response, but your recent statement on RollItUp really bothers me. "The fact he had 40 people mass contact us is half the issue just so ya know. Sub" As this fact is absolutely not true I must ask you to please clarify. I truly cannot even conceive of how you could assume or make such a statement. I sure hope you not accusing me of a Denial of Service Attack here! You have no just reason to question my integrity what so ever. Finally, as for this being half the issue I can only say REALLY?


As for a response to this email I think it is safe to assume I find it unacceptable and offensive no less unprofessional. I had carbon copied you on 100% of my correspondence in this deal once it went bad. Scott clearly made more than one mistake leading up to me pulling the plug on this deal on Saturday morning. I could not have been more decisive at that point but some how my decision was not respected nor my money order returned. The fact that you could state that I had "drug this out far longer than needed" defies reason. You do realize per those carbon copied emails that none were welcome following my decision. I hope you can place yourself in my position and understand the position you have placed me in dealing with a company and its representative in this manner.


Tom




Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:19:41 AM
Subject: TGA


I have read all of the e-mails and I have instructed Scott to return your Money Order and have no further dealings with you.
We don't need drama or hassles and Scoot has an excellent reputation and I have received dozens of reviews from happy customers.
He made a mistake and said he was sorry you drug this out far longer than needed.
End of transmission


Subcool

 

[TheMan13]

Subs response:

It's vain to even think I was speaking about you.
We're done
Sub

 

[TheMan13]

I believe there is a chance original info got confused or something. It does kinda look bad, but look at subs response. Even with the response you provided, I don't see him saying you sent out mass email if he didn't think it. If he just thought you became too much of asshole, then he'd say so. He could be trying to figure out who sent the mass email right now. You know what I'm saying? This is common shit for them - not for you. Give him the courtesy of reviewing everything real quick. Then maybe he says he stills thinks you are asshole, or makes shit right. lmao. I really really don't think you over reacted though bro. What have you done? Post thread asking if you have right to be butt hurt over deal? That isn't over reacting. Your butt should be sore, that sucks man.

Any thoughts now You just can't make wrong right, can you

 

[gladstoned]

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  Originally Posted by gladstoned
  I am a supporter of Rollitup and TGA and some Michigan patients are having trouble with TGA rep. Michigan patients and caregivers be careful until this bs is resolved.
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by subcool
  The fact he had 40 people mass contact us is half the issue just so ya know.
  
  Sub
  
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by gladstoned
  I didn't know that. Hearing the story, I don't think it was a HUGE deal, but I think he had a reason to be upset. We all have a few issues, and he honestly felt he was being done wrongly. For a little bit, he was.
  
  For what it's worth, a few weeks ago, he was one of the biggest TGA fans I knew. And a decent dude.
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by TheMan13
  If you are referring to me Sub that is absolutely not true!
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by gladstoned
  I wanted to post comment. Not start trouble. Subcool acknowledged situation and is probably looking into it. I fully understand that they have no idea of knowing if you are mj legal veteran or 13 year old punk starting shit. lmao. I cannot imagine the shit they have to wade through. Hopefully your situation will be resolved. I have seen several weed nerds where sub gets info and makes shit right. If you got mad, then they got mad, then you got madder....... Hopefully it's been a few days and facts can be revisited and you can get back to your cheese quake. lol.
  
  
  
  
  

  • Subs response: (to TheMan13)
    
    It's vain to even think I was speaking about you.
    We're done
    Sub
    
    
    
    

  
  
  This really doesn't make any sense. Is this all a misunderstanding? Or is there more to story. This person here is the person that I was referring to, and you thought or think I was asking about someone else. This is a michigan medical marijuana patient with some issues and is putting out a story that sounds fucked up about the way he was treated. Very nicely trying to ask for other version. Nobody has been rude or ignorant on here. Please explain somewhat.​
  
  
  
  

 

[gladstoned]

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[gladstoned]

Any thoughts now You just can't make wrong right, can you

Holy Fuck bro. As for any thoughts? Ya.

 

[abe supercro]

Wow, and I paid how much for Plushberry? Barely anyone runs that in their garden after the hype, everyone knows it.
Are we "done" ? You betcha

Subs response:

It's vain to even think I was speaking about you.
We're done
Sub

*****

TRANSLATION: Don't have time for customer... Don't give a fuck.

 

[HomeLessBeans]

hey op I hav some donations commin in. I'll hit ya with a list of strains and you can pick out what ya want for free. Or ask glad what I can do for ya

 

[stumpjumper]

What a douche bag..... I think we have some good present and up-and coming breeders here in our own state.. Hell I have a room the same size as what TGA uses to make beans.. Maybe I'll start making beans.

I already have one batch, Gonna call it "Michiana Snax"...

 

[TheMan13]

I really hate the that this thread may somehow make other Team Green Avengers feel or look bad. For this I sincerely apologize. I am still your brother and standby these genetics as do you. TGA as a business is being poorly run as this thread clearly bares witness to.


We all really need to take heed to the pile of casualties this CEO has left behind and look to the future. I think it's about time for some to step out from behind this false prophet and let the world see your skills. We all know that many of the individuals responsible for TGA genetics could easily step up and be equals with this one man. I hope there are at least a few out there that can lower their KoolAid for a second and ponder such a future. I can tell you from experience that the MMJ community can really use you! Breed genetics, not haters ...

 

[TheMan13]

Lucky you documented those posts glad, looks like Sub's making things right his way

• 

  Originally Posted by gladstoned
  I am a supporter of Rollitup and TGA and some Michigan patients are having trouble with TGA rep. Michigan patients and caregivers be careful until this bs is resolved.
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by subcool
  The fact he had 40 people mass contact us is half the issue just so ya know.
  
  Sub
  
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by gladstoned
  I didn't know that. Hearing the story, I don't think it was a HUGE deal, but I think he had a reason to be upset. We all have a few issues, and he honestly felt he was being done wrongly. For a little bit, he was.
  
  For what it's worth, a few weeks ago, he was one of the biggest TGA fans I knew. And a decent dude.
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by TheMan13
  If you are referring to me Sub that is absolutely not true!
  
  
  
  
  

  

  Originally Posted by gladstoned
  I wanted to post comment. Not start trouble. Subcool acknowledged situation and is probably looking into it. I fully understand that they have no idea of knowing if you are mj legal veteran or 13 year old punk starting shit. lmao. I cannot imagine the shit they have to wade through. Hopefully your situation will be resolved. I have seen several weed nerds where sub gets info and makes shit right. If you got mad, then they got mad, then you got madder....... Hopefully it's been a few days and facts can be revisited and you can get back to your cheese quake. lol.
  
  
  
  
  

  • Subs response: (to TheMan13)
    
    It's vain to even think I was speaking about you.
    We're done
    Sub
    
    
    
    

  
  
  This really doesn't make any sense. Is this all a misunderstanding? Or is there more to story. This person here is the person that I was referring to, and you thought or think I was asking about someone else. This is a michigan medical marijuana patient with some issues and is putting out a story that sounds fucked up about the way he was treated. Very nicely trying to ask for other version. Nobody has been rude or ignorant on here. Please explain somewhat.​
  
  
  
  

 

[gladstoned]

It was all over when he started talking in riddles. I was completely wrong about Subcool. What a fucking joke. And I am giving TGA packs away promoting this piece of shit?

 

[gladstoned]

Lucky you documented those posts glad, looks like Sub's making things right his way

Bro that is 100% why I did it. He's gonna threaten to run away from home again. lmao. Fucking clown. Make excuses, THEN deny shit. Fucking moron.

 

[TheMan13]

This all seems so unreal. What could this fool possibly be thinking?!?