Johnny Retro
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Modern medicine and mass produced food. You are trying to argue a diet of just natural animal protein and plants decreases life span? and I'm the idiot? oh boy..
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abandonconflict
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I think he is right for the most part, meat and plants are what we evolved on, but lifespans were increased by the agricultural revolution, which was when grain became the staple, however that may be attributable to less famine overall. Refined flour is about as useful as refined sugar though.
Dr Kynes
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refined flour?
you mean hulled milled bleached flour?
the hulling simply removes the bran and germ (with vitamins and shit, but detrimental to gluten formation which is essential for leavening)
the milling is simply fine grinding to make flour, the same process is used for whole grain (with the bran and germ)
the bleaching is done with natural sodium hydroxide (lye) solutions and sunlight to further reduce the starch content for better gluten formation and to produce a lighter healthier bread
likewise refining sugar is the removal of impurities from the sugars, not as is implied by those who know nothing of the process, the addition of "chemicals".
refining sugars removes cadmium, chromium, metallic salts, acids and other stuff from the raw carbohydrates to improve it's utility and reduce the detrimental effects of the impurities (on food's flavours and for your health)
you can get wheat germ, wheat bran and molasses (the stuff removed from wheat and sugar through processing) yourself if you like that stuff. its not very expensive, and its full of vitamins and shit.
or do you propose we gnaw on wheat grainheads and straw like ruminants. and suck raw sap from sugarcane like aphids?
the "raw sugar" so trendy now is not in any way raw. its the same refined sugar, coarse ground and sprayed with molasses to make it look just a little brown. if you really want a raw sweetener, get honey, every other product available must be processed to make it useful.
johnny retro, the "caveman diet" is just another fad. over the last 300 years human health, as well as size vitality and strength has GREATLY increased due to unnatural selection of reduced hunger, better nutrition overall, and generally healthier childhood and adolescence.
if you were to visit the USS constitution the doors are too small for most full sized people to use comfortably, and in most museams you can find a display of old suits of armour that seem like they were made for children not adults. very few men reached 6 feet in height in ancient times and they were always noted for their size (william wallace stood nearly 6 feet tall and was considered a giant at the time) meanwhile every male in my family is over 6 feet. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
your previous statement that ancient man was larger and healthier than modern man is erroneous. the reverse is fact.
ChesusRice
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You can get as scientific as you want
But Johnny Jethro
Claims we used to be taller and live longer
Anyone want to back that up?
But Johnny Jethro
Claims we used to be taller and live longer
Anyone want to back that up?
Dr Kynes
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the "caveman diet" hucksters sell that line, and he swallowed the hook. lotta people fall for bullshit claims and things that make the rest of us go "WTF???!!??!!" thats how Amway, Quixstar, Mellaleuca, Scientology and the Democratic National Committee stay in business.
sorry i couldnt resist.
ChesusRice
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AMWAY
Uses a built in audience of evangelical churches to sell their multi level marketing plan
Being that they actually have a product
It isnt exactly a pyramid scam
Uses a built in audience of evangelical churches to sell their multi level marketing plan
Being that they actually have a product
It isnt exactly a pyramid scam
Harrekin
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Oh theres no denying we've generally shit professional chefs, but trust me, the raw ingredients are epic in the right hands
Dr Kynes
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but the democratic national committee is...
Fuck you, i dont need your charity!!
amway is as close to a ponzi scheme as you can get without winding up in prison next to bernie madoff. they prey on the dumb, gullible and desperate. at least bernie preyed on the dumb gullible and well heeled. but i think thats just because the ROI is higher when you sucker rich dipshits.
Dr Kynes
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damn. next time ill insult irish whiskey.Oh theres no denying we've generally shit professional chefs, but trust me, the raw ingredients are epic in the right hands
fact is, most prepared foods (hotpockets, tv dinners et al) are made of the cheapest and least healthful ingredients solely because if the shit was any cheaper to make it would have to be labeled "Export Only" and even sally struthers wouldnt touch it.
this is what michelle obama is talking about when she bitches about "food deserts"
in many urban areas all you got is gas stations convenience stores and the occaisional safeway which sells mostly cheap processed foods, real grub (beef pork chicken vegetables etc.) is prohibitively expensive, thus the average shopper winds up going for volume rather than quality. try and feed your family on 200 bucks a month with anything other than beans and rice and youll have hungry kids, stunted growth and malnutrition problems.
its all groovy for rich liberals to claim that poor folks should simply eat better food, and talk about "whole foods market" or "farm to table" but i tell you what, i dont sell my produce any cheaper than the other cats at the farmers market, and poor folks cant afford shit i got to sell. if i didnt grow my own grub in the summer i would be fucked too, but not everybody can do that.
ChesusRice
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Gordon RamseyOh theres no denying we've generally shit professional chefs, but trust me, the raw ingredients are epic in the right hands
Runs one of the worlds most expensive restaurants in London
Dr Kynes
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hes from manchester homey, not ireland.
ChesusRice
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Dr Kynes
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ireland is not in the UK, well not most of it.
only about 10% of ireland's land area is controlled by the british interlopers and orangemen. the rest is a free and democratic socialist republic founded on the principles of liberty fraternity and equality and catholicism.
that last one is the turd in your punchbowl ehh?
meanwhile, manchester is in the north of england, near the border with scotland, in a very down-market section of the country, where respectable ladies like yourself rarely go unaccompanied. lest you feel some rough workman's hands upon your stockings.
ChesusRice
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You can turn a phrase
even when you are full of shit
Ever think of professional writing?
Dr Kynes
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nah it never seemed like an idea, but lately i been thinkin about writing erotic literature for the mentally handicapped, i think thats an under served market, if obama gets a second term who knows. i may decide to whet my quill.
ChesusRice
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if you want some very small easy money
Sign up for MTURK
you can do writing hits
They pay like 3.00 for a 500 word article
They also pay for surveys and shit computers cannot do. i have made almost a grand this year in my free time
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Dr Kynes
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what like paid opinion blogging? also, surveys? like the kind that winds up with a poorly worded entreaty to cash this here fat check, then wire back the extra through western union and keep the balance...
ill neeed more info. i got lotsa free time and no money.