Time to Wake Up

[canndo]

In the center is peace.

In the center is stagnation

 

[abandonconflict]

It's actually characteristic of both extremes. Stalin's Russia was as left-wing as it gets. cn

The bureaucracy under Stalin was one of the most sharply cut class-societies in history.

 

[timbo123]

Yea, well keep huffing that silly gas all you want. RP is not EVER going to get the nomination. EVER.

I like Ron Paul's ideas about personal liberty (duh... weed... hello)... and his ideas about quit giving money to every other damn country on the globe and quit being the policemen of the world because we simply can't afford that nonsense anymore.
You are absolutely right though... the war mongering, bible thumping, greed party... I mean the Republicans would NEVER choose him as their "standard bearer"... he is more correctly classified as a Libertarian. He also was a little too rambling and whiney for mass appeal... and how many people thought he was just plain too old?? I still think people who think freely rather than mainstream party loyalists are hard pressed to provide logical, compelling arguments about why they don't support his political views.

 

[abandonconflict]

I like Ron Paul's ideas about personal liberty (duh... weed... hello)... and his ideas about quit giving money to every other damn country on the globe and quit being the policemen of the world because we simply can't afford that nonsense anymore.
You are absolutely right though... the war mongering, bible thumping, greed party... I mean the Republicans would NEVER choose him as their "standard bearer"... he is more correctly classified as a Libertarian. He also was a little too rambling and whiney for mass appeal... and how many people thought he was just plain too old?? I still think people who think freely rather than mainstream party loyalists are hard pressed to provide logical, compelling arguments about why they don't support his political views.

the people who tell others to stop supporting a political wing, are usually only trying to attack the left wing, and never take issue with the stupidity of the right, this sort of "independent" is simply the tea-bagger corporate libertarian fringe, as right wing as Americans currently get.

 

[Doer]

sure there is, read it

It is open to Interpretation. So, tell me.

 

[Doer]

The bureaucracy under Stalin was one of the most sharply cut class-societies in history.

Agree. And we know that Hitler renamed his party. National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) called for short, Nazi.
National Socialism is Fascism. It pretended to be Left, and then turned on the Left.

 

[Doer]

Thank you for admitting your opinion has absolutely no constitutional precedent. Now that this is established, stop mentioning it as though you care about it, you've never even read it.

Stop stopping me. And when we talk like this to people who do care. It really creates an atmosphere of hostility. That's why people will temper their speech, face to face. It's cowardly, in my view, to do this in forum.

 

[abandonconflict]

Stop stopping me. And when we talk like this to people who do care. It really creates an atmosphere of hostility. That's why people will temper their speech, face to face. It's cowardly, in my view, to do this in forum.

I can both dish it, and take it. The logic is delivered hot.

 

[Doer]

I can both dish it, and take it. The logic is delivered hot.

I doubt if you could take it. IAC, I find the logic rather Socialist Fascism.
And so old and cold.

 

[abandonconflict]

I doubt if you could take it.

We have established, you dont know me. However, you sure seem to want to convince me that Obama is Hitler.

 

[abandonconflict]

I doubt if you could take it. IAC, I find the logic rather Socialist Fascism.
And so old and cold.

I doubt if you could take it. I find the rhetoric rather Tea Party and so old and cold.

 

[timbo123]

the people who tell others to stop supporting a political wing, are usually only trying to attack the left wing, and never take issue with the stupidity of the right, this sort of "independent" is simply the tea-bagger corporate libertarian fringe, as right wing as Americans currently get.

Again... vague statements with no substance on THE ISSUES. No right... No left... just common fucking sense please.

 

[abandonconflict]

Again... vague statements with no substance on THE ISSUES. No right... No left... just common fucking sense please.

I was being vague, so as to say, be consistent. If you wish to call yourself nonpartisan, yet attack a party, this is inconsistent, attack both, otherwise, you are just a partisan hack. The reason I was vague, is because you haven't yet been inconsistent, so it was preemptive, but I was also speaking to Doer in third person.

 

[Doer]

In the center is stagnation

In the center is clam. We will all be better if we just keep clams. Stagnation is impossible in the Internet age. Blind Change kills.

 

[Doer]

We have established, you dont know me. However, you sure seem to want to convince me that Obama is Hitler.

Again, too simplistic and just putting fight words out. I never said that. I draw conclusions and I state concepts. I don't take sides.

You are exposed. So what. I'm not trying to convince you but these words do come from your mind, not mine. You are unaware of this stuff, I'm not making up and though you don't like it, you are exposed.

And others can see I never labeled you what you propose or tried to be this or that. Yet, you have to crush the world into labels to understand.

You will grow out of that, and this stuff I'm practicing my typing with will have helped. You will remember.

 

[Dr Kynes]

You guys don't even know what Fox News is. You've never watched it. You eat the swill from the nanny trough. I watched CNN for the Rebublicrates and Fox for the Demicans. I watch Al J, for world News.

You guys sound like the Beta Drones, from Brave New World. Sadly under informed and snidely sneer upon the idea of triangulating News outlet
to find the real in the bs. Or, be lazy and smug. Sure, Fox is BS, they all are. You are the Drone and the Stupid Test is for you. Ignorance is Bliss is the Leftist dogma....oh yeah, same as the Right's. Don't take sides, vote against. Don't be a sheep. Don't be asleep.

you watch al jezeera for world news, yeah thats stable sensible and good planning.

watch al jezeera then check out Memri dot org, dig on Farfour, the mujahadeen mouse.

CNN ABC NBC CBS MSNBC CNBC the new york times, la times chcago trib, and just about every "Media Outlet" you can think of all spin left, and their "lies" are usually half truths twisted to better support their positions

FOX spins right, and their "lies" are likewise, usually half truths bent to support their positions.

Al Fucking Jazeera spins in circles and just makes shit up. you cant get truth from an organization dedicated to creating a world based on the koran. lies breed lies, and al jazeera is made up entirely of lies. al jezeera is an arm of the mohammedan mullahs and imams, it has nothing to do with truth, fact reporting or reality. they regurgitate whatever the mullahs and imams tell them is hallal.

 

[Doer]

That's what I said. Exactly. However, each has a different slant, the spin cycle varies. So, the alternative is to be a Parrot on the party line, right?

Or, we can try to decline all information. Is that even possible?

 

[UncleBuck]

That's what I said. Exactly. However, each has a different slant, the spin cycle varies. So, the alternative is to be a Parrot on the party line, right?

Or, we can try to decline all information. Is that even possible?

i know you like to decline historical information, like how many terms FDR had.



why are you still here? it's obvious you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[abandonconflict]

i know you like to decline historical information, like how many terms FDR had.



why are you still here? it's obvious you have no clue what you are talking about.

potatoes gonna potate

 

[newworldicon]

i know you like to decline historical information, like how many terms FDR had.



why are you still here? it's obvious you have no clue what you are talking about.

Said the kettle to the pot..