First Closet CFL Grow

kochab

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Ya shoulda been trimming the lower third by now!!!!

Peep my journal.. some pics in there with the stalks bare a 1/3 up.
thats called lolypopping but its not really a thing that has to be done either.

I did I added more hydrocs so you can't really see the bottom. If I harvest that lower branch first is it going to hurt/kill the rest of the plant?
i wouldent take anything off of it as long as it is getting good light.
and harvesting the plant in sections wont hurt it at all. in fact if they are big, then its harder for them to finish all @ one time so you can harvest in sections. I do this outdoors.

Thanks for the support kochab!! You mentioned the watering schedule. Is it because it's getting used to it, or because I'm over/underwatering??
to be honest, i cant remember which one it was supposed to be over or under watering. But the beast is still looking rather healthy so i wouldent worry about it man. she looks terrific compared to what she looked like when you started this journal so that means youve come a long way. its funny how sometimes the one little fucked up plant turns out to be the best hope that you've got aint it?


by the way did you ever look into deep water culture (DWC) cloning?
 

toolage

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hey bro yeah it is a trip how the worst is the best! I have looked into DWC, and am saving my moola for everything to do it.

I did just finish cutting off very bottom branches, they were barely getting any light and haven't even formed white hairs yet and were extremely skinny. Added 1 tsp of superthrive into resevoir.
 

kochab

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hey bro yeah it is a trip how the worst is the best! I have looked into DWC, and am saving my moola for everything to do it.

I did just finish cutting off very bottom branches, they were barely getting any light and haven't even formed white hairs yet and were extremely skinny. Added 1 tsp of superthrive into resevoir.
keep those branches mate.... i need to write you a pm and it may take a min.
 

toolage

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I know I should keep them and do clones, but I've kind of given up on cloning for right now. I want to invest the proper money and get everything right before I do this again. There's something I'm not doing right because they just don't root for me.
 

mmclean3

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Whats the harm of trying tho? o_O jsut take em cut all the branches off... leave the top shit n the new growth. cut the biggest leafs down more then half way. then recut the button of the stem where u cut it off ur plant recut it up under one of the other lil branches u just cut off of it at a 45 degree angle dip it in water hold it there for 20 seconds dip it in cloning solution leave it in there for 10 seconds put it in rockwool water rockwool. under doom spray the shitt outta the doom close dont open for a week or until u needa respray..
 

Enigma

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I know I should keep them and do clones, but I've kind of given up on cloning for right now. I want to invest the proper money and get everything right before I do this again. There's something I'm not doing right because they just don't root for me.
Fluoro light.

Rooting hormone at Lowe's, like $2-$3.

Plan plastic 10x20 tray.

Heat mat.

Jiffy cubes from Wal-Mart or Lowe's.

Denatured Alcohol and a exacto knife.

Keep it clean!
 

kochab

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I know I should keep them and do clones, but I've kind of given up on cloning for right now. I want to invest the proper money and get everything right before I do this again. There's something I'm not doing right because they just don't root for me.
ell first off, I usually keep a plant JUST to clone off of. a mother plant if thats what you wish to call it...
i only give that plant nutes when it is showing a defficancy of something, and i only water that mofo when its wilting. I learned that from another user here that i mentioned to you, Kindprincess.

i think that ive been neglecting this thread because ive had so many others ive been on lately...I could have offered a bit more advice in the past. sorry man
 

toolage

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Thanks everyone for the help and info!!! I did do clones out of the cuttings I took today. I had to do it extremely fast as I was getting ready for work as I was doing it. Not 100% on how effective I did it, as I was speed cloning lol.

I soaked the rockwool in balanced pH water (something I didn't do last time). I also cut the leaves back more then I did last time. I also shaved the bottom of the stem, something I didn't do last time. Hopefully everything will work out well. Here's a couple of pictures of everything. The one on the far right is the clone from last cutting, any comments on it?
 

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kochab

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Thanks everyone for the help and info!!! I did do clones out of the cuttings I took today. I had to do it extremely fast as I was getting ready for work as I was doing it. Not 100% on how effective I did it, as I was speed cloning lol.

I soaked the rockwool in balanced pH water (something I didn't do last time). I also cut the leaves back more then I did last time. I also shaved the bottom of the stem, something I didn't do last time. Hopefully everything will work out well. Here's a couple of pictures of everything. The one on the far right is the clone from last cutting, any comments on it?
you could have clipped those branches in the centers leaving some leaves and gotten way more clones, its ot just the tops that are cloneable:mrgreen:

and i dont see any roots on the cube of the other one just yet...id say try letting them dry out a bit more in between waterings, that encourages the plant to make more roots to find water instead of living off what you put in the rockwool.
and are you using cloning gel or hormone powder?
 

toolage

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Rootech Clone Gel i know i could of gotten more clones, but unfortunantly I only had 10 minutes. I g2g back to work, be back in a few hours.
 

Enigma

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They look good for now.. check out Al B. Fuct's thread on cloning.. very, very informative!
 

mmclean3

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They look great!! Since they more developed now meaning bigger stem. maybe it will work better for you. That last one to the right looks like one from ur last batch ;)
 

Alto

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"speed cloning" lol
:joint:passes to T for a job well done.

All the Basil plants I did as practice came out great
I shaved off a good portion of the outside of the stems at the bottom
exposing the insides to the hormone.
seems to have worked very well
They look good Toolage! now keep em in a dome thats sprayed with water for a while.
 

toolage

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They look good for now.. check out Al B. Fuct's thread on cloning.. very, very informative!
Thanks bro, i'll search for his thread once I get out of the op.

They look great!! Since they more developed now meaning bigger stem. maybe it will work better for you. That last one to the right looks like one from ur last batch ;)
The one on the right is from my last batch :wink:

"speed cloning" lol
:joint:passes to T for a job well done.

All the Basil plants I did as practice came out great
I shaved off a good portion of the outside of the stems at the bottom
exposing the insides to the hormone.
seems to have worked very well
They look good Toolage! now keep em in a dome thats sprayed with water for a while.
:joint: passes , should I not spray the leaves of the clones until the rockwool dries up?
 

FrostickZero

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Thanks bro, i'll search for his thread once I get out of the op.


The one on the right is from my last batch :wink:


:joint: passes , should I not spray the leaves of the clones until the rockwool dries up?
I mist my clone's leafs every day when they are in the green house, the jiffy pucks were almost bone dry and I gave every clone a good shot of water and in not even 30 min I have 4 cloes that have 1'' roots showing
 

toolage

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i could understand jiffy pucks, they dont retain water very well. My rockwool can hold water for days. So should I wait for the rockwool to dry before watering leaves again?
 

Alto

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Less water will cause the roots to seek out more, so I would not keep the Rockwool saturated.
(but completely dry is not good either)
If you spray them, and have a dome to hold that moisture in, they should develop roots rather quickly.
If you have too much water in the Rockwool, they would have no reason to stretch out looking for any.
 

kochab

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i could understand jiffy pucks, they dont retain water very well. My rockwool can hold water for days. So should I wait for the rockwool to dry before watering leaves again?
no, You can mist the plants once or twice daily but your rockwool should NOT remail soaking wet. The dryer you can keep the rockwool the sooner roots will form. Ive also heard of people putting less water on the rockwool and just doing it more often which was supposed to had good results with.
but i dont fuck with that shit:evil: so i cant tell ya personally.
 

kochab

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Less water will cause the roots to seek out more, so I would not keep the Rockwool saturated.
(but completely dry is not good either)
If you spray them, and have a dome to hold that moisture in, they should develop roots rather quickly.
If you have too much water in the Rockwool, they would have no reason to stretch out looking for any.

oops sorry guys i didnt see that alto said pretty much the same thing except for using less water and using it more often.
im high forgive meh:neutral:
 
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