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[Hepheastus420]

I went to my dad's house and we were eating diner. We got into the discussion of religion because I quoted budha (you won't be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger) and he said " You better not be getting sacrilegious because that's the last thing you need".. So I said I was just quoting him.. Then he asked if I was still a christian and he was saying I sound like a damn atheist. So I just told him "It shouldn't matter".. Then he got kinda pissy and I ended up just saying I was christian.

I think next time I'm just gonna tell him I'm atheist. I need to find my balls lol.

 

[tyler.durden]

^^ Yeah, that's difficult, Hep. Luckily, I came out to my family early on, so they're decades used to it. But, I've seen friends come out atheist to their loved ones in the last few years, and it's astounding how violent the reactions can be: anything from screaming, to crying, to disbelief to threats. I'm sure there are families who handle this info more rationally, but I'd bet they're few and far between. Some families even go so far as to ostracize the atheist until they agree to believe again (how the fuck does that work?). I'm betting it was/is a similar experience to homosexuals coming out to their families. So, it's probably best in the long run, but be prepared for these reactions...

 

[lokie]

Went out to dinner with my brother in law and he started full on preaching at the table.

I just got up, said "I'm going out for a smoke." lol i wish, i had a cig.

I have read the same book he has but he still feels the need to preach to the choir.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I went to my dad's house and we were eating diner. We got into the discussion of religion because I quoted budha (you won't be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger) and he said " You better not be getting sacrilegious because that's the last thing you need".. So I said I was just quoting him.. Then he asked if I was still a christian and he was saying I sound like a damn atheist. So I just told him "It shouldn't matter".. Then he got kinda pissy and I ended up just saying I was christian.

I think next time I'm just gonna tell him I'm atheist. I need to find my balls lol.

^^ Yeah, that's difficult, Hep. Luckily, I came out to my family early on, so they're decades used to it. But, I've seen friends come out atheist to their loved ones in the last few years, and it's astounding how violent the reactions can be: anything from screaming, to crying, to disbelief to threats. I'm sure there are families who handle this info more rationally, but I'd bet they're few and far between. Some families even go so far as to ostracize the atheist until they agree to believe again (how the fuck does that work?). I'm betting it was/is a similar experience to homosexuals coming out to their families. So, it's probably best in the long run, but be prepared for these reactions...

@ Hep, sorry to hear that, man.. it can be difficult to 'come out', especially to your parents if they're religious.. My dad still gives me shit when I respondto a pastor on FB when he asks me religious questions.. "Why do you have to do that shit in public, make everyone believe the same shit you do and "force it on them"?!"

Know what I do? LOL all the way to the bank!

At this point, I'm a full grown adult, I can make my own decisions, his approval, in that sense, means absolutely nothing to me because I know I'm right. It's a sort of "aww, you're adorable.." kind of reaction he gets for still believing such bullshit. He's old, old enough to be afraid of death, and as a theist, I really don't blame him, his whole life he's been spoonfed bullshit, bullshit to make him afraid of death to seek salvation. This is one thing about organized religion I will never, absolutely ever, forgive. It's touched me deeply on such a personal level I've harbored resentment ever since.

What the fuck has being afraid of death ever accomplished except pouring fuel on the fire of ignorance? It's absolutely fucking pathetic.

Stand the fuck up and face fucking oblivion. Realize, one day, you're going to die, accept it. Face it. Deal with it like a goddamn man, not a scared fucking child.

Went out to dinner with my brother in law and he started full on preaching at the table.

I just got up, said "I'm going out for a smoke." lol i wish, i had a cig.

I have read the same book he has but he still feels the need to preach to the choir.

I absolutely love opportunities like that!

Stand your ground for 15 minutes and watch the faithful wilt. It's delicious!

Once they realize you're not an ignorant fuck they switch tactics and become much more assertive. That's when you do the same and bring out the big guns "creation is proof of intelligence? How do you know which intelligence?" "..."... "what about dinosaurs? What was the purpose of them?"... "..." "a flood? Are you fucking kidding me?"... "..."... "OK, I think we're done here"...

When put through the gauntlet, answers become incomplete, insufficient, or simply outright LIES. I've caught motherfuckers in lies on the spot and called em on it just to be met with more lies. These assholes rely on peoples ignorance. That right there tells me it's nothing more than a scam led by another con artist not smart enough to see through the shit in the first place. Whether they themselves buy it or not is irrelevant, they don't accept anything that comes out of your mouth.

I had a 6 week conversation with 2 JW's last summer and the second guy was getting so fed up with my shit he actually nudged the other guy who was attempting to get through right in front of me multiple times, as if to say "lets just get the fuck out of here, this guy isn't buying any of our bullshit, we're just wasting our time...".

And that was the last I've seen of them.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!