ObamaCare Summery Hit's The Nail On The Head

NLXSK1

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January 3, 1994 - Harold Ickes, the new deputy White House chief of staff, is chosen to be the political director of the health care reform battle in its critical final phase. For his first two weeks on the job, when he should be focusing on health reform, he is forced to spend nearly all his time coordinating the White House response to a torrent of Whitewater stories and increased calls for the appointment of a special prosecutor. Republicans link Whitewater with health care reform in an allout campaign coordinated with the conservative talk radio network. The result: rising doubts that the public can trust Clinton in either case.

January 25, 1994 - In his State of the Union address, President Clinton tries to refocus public attention on health care reform as Congress prepares to wrestle with the actual legislative proposals. In the most dramatic moment of the speech Clinton unequivocally lays down the gauntlet, promising to fight to the end. He threatens to veto any legislation that does not guarantee every American private health insurance. Moynihan and Foley say privately this is a serious mistake.
The barrage of Whitewater stories continues, creating a siege mentality at the White House. Republicans openly embrace William Kristol's latest advice: Oppose any Clinton health care reform "sight unseen" and adopt a stance that "There is no health care crisis." Bob Dole uses this approach in his State of the Union response. During his talk Dole uses a chart -- depicting a bewildering array of new government agencies and programs -- to hammer home his point that the Clinton plan is government-run health care. The chart becomes a centerpiece in Capitol Hill debates and further frightens a public already Suspicious of government and increasingly distrustful of the President and the First Lady who have designed this new government program.

Late January 1994 - A critically influential -- and intensely controversial -- pair of articles appears on the Wall Street Journal's conservative editorial page and in the liberal New Republic. Written by an obscure staffer of the conservative Manhattan Institute, the fear-mongering articles paint a devastating account of the impact of the Clinton plan. The White House, and other independent experts, say the articles are filled with patent falsehoods and distortions. Notwithstanding the criticism, the articles become highly influential, especially in conservative circles. Newt Gingrich will later characterize them as "the first decisive breakpoint" in support for the Clinton plan.
Didnt you leave here?
 

ink the world

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Unlike you, you won't find me claiming to be an expert. I'm always learning, so when you can get over a gram per watt, I'll start listening!
unlike you, you won't find me to be 100% full of shit.

I never, not once claimed to be a master grower. I am what I am, a grower. Don't put words in my mouth, put nutrients into your neon "plants" you poser.
 

canndo

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Long diatribe! It's 1:42 seconds. LOL
Well I won't say I doubt you read it, I'll guarantee you didn't, how's that?
BTW, I love those flowery little words you use, like thoughtful and embrace!


It is one long comedic sentence forgodsake. I responded to it, how about a response to my article.
 

canndo

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Doctor's, specifically primary care doctors such as Family Practice, OBGYN, and Internal Medicine physicians, don't like Obamacare for a couple of reasons:

1. it ties doctors pay to improving their patient's health. doctor's are frustrated by this because up to half of their patient's don't take their medications or they take it incorrectly. it absolves the patient of all responsibility. try tying teachers salaries to the performance of their students and just watch the bloodshed.

2. it creates more work for primary care physicians without any provision for recruiting, training, or compensating new primary care physicians. primary care doctors taking new patients are few and far between as it is, especially for medicaid because medicaid reimburses around 50-75% less than private healthcare and medicare. it is looking like the gov't will ultimately mandate that physicians see medicaid patients for very little compensation, eventhough they have to see double the amount of patients to make what they are making now. no physician wants to take medicaid because it doesn't pay.


Except that to my understanding, the doctors themselves are not tied to patient's health, Hospitals are measured for efficiency - a very different and somewhat reasonable thing.
 

beenthere

New Member
unlike you, you won't find me to be 100% full of shit.

I never, not once claimed to be a master grower. I am what I am, a grower. Don't put words in my mouth, put nutrients into your neon "plants" you poser.
Well then lets talk about these "neon plants" Ink, give me your "growers" opinion!

Cmon, put up or STFU
 

ink the world

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Jackass, put up?
My pics are here for all to see. Yours? Not so much... As for advice, eat a dick and water your plants with vinegar.



Here ya go a new pic for ya. My summer project Querkle X AK47 just harvested




There ya go poser, lets see what you got
 

beenthere

New Member
Jackass, put up?
My pics are here for all to see. Yours? Not so much... As for advice, eat a dick and water your plants with vinegar.

Here ya go a new pic for ya. My summer project Querkle X AK47 just harvested


There ya go poser, lets see what you got
Like I said, lets get your growers (licensed care giver in Maine) opinion on the plant you call neon, what's holding you back?

BTW, in the meantime, learn how to post a pic .
 

beenthere

New Member
Like I said, lets get your growers (licensed care giver in Maine) opinion on the plant you call neon, what's holding you back?

BTW, in the meantime, learn how to post a pic .
What happened big mouth?
You continue to insult a 30 year pot plant, back it up with some substance of your knowedge!
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
What happened big mouth?
You continue to insult a 30 year pot plant, back it up with some substance of your knowedge!


Curiously emboldened today eh beenthere? congrads - as agreement seems to equate with truth for you, you must be a very happy fella. Romney's lies are working.
 

beenthere

New Member
Curiously emboldened today eh beenthere? congrads - as agreement seems to equate with truth for you, you must be a very happy fella. Romney's lies are working.
One thing I will praise you for canndo and that is you don't take the political arguments and turn them in to personal attacks, you've never once taken a cheap shot like some of the others on this forum, so props to you for that.

Believe or not, I think you and I could argue are asses off for hours but still have a beer afterwards.
Maybe you don't have the same feeling, but I do.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
One thing I will praise you for canndo and that is you don't take the political arguments and turn them in to personal attacks, you've never once taken a cheap shot like some of the others on this forum, so props to you for that.

Believe or not, I think you and I could argue are asses off for hours but still have a beer afterwards.
Maybe you don't have the same feeling, but I do.

Beenthere - I am not my ideological opinion. I am not my party affiliation. I am not my political beliefs. The results of that realization to me is that you can criticize my statements and not be criticizing me. I hold that the same is true for others - and so I can't see the point in personal attacks and I don't see an attack on my political posts as a personal attack.

I drink with mostly conservatives - they are, after all, so much more predictable - and so long as I listen to right wing radio and watch FOX I always know what they are thinking.

No, you won't see me get personal with you or anyone else here.
 

beenthere

New Member
Beenthere - I am not my ideological opinion. I am not my party affiliation. I am not my political beliefs. The results of that realization to me is that you can criticize my statements and not be criticizing me. I hold that the same is true for others - and so I can't see the point in personal attacks and I don't see an attack on my political posts as a personal attack.

I drink with mostly conservatives - they are, after all, so much more predictable - and so long as I listen to right wing radio and watch FOX I always know what they are thinking.

No, you won't see me get personal with you or anyone else here.
I kind of figured that out about you. Don't get me wrong, there are times I get so damn frustrated with you I could spit bullets, that's a fact but I'd be one of the first guys on here to help you out if you truly needed it, as long as it didn't concern politics that is!
 

ink the world

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Clayton,
Are you a meth user? I ask because rational people don't quote themselves so much.

My opinion if your plant has been given to you multiple times already. Why not show how your skills have improved?

I like the fact that my being a caregiver bugs you so much, I dont understand why that's so offensive to you. This being a growing forum you're likely to encounter people that grow for a living.

As far as the pic, I CP using the forum code. Shows on my CPU and phone..there are plenty of pics in my profile, feel free to check them out.
 

beenthere

New Member
is that 30 year old pot plant the one in your avatar ???? what kind
Yes it is 30 years old, it was seed from the original skunk.
I had three different phenotypes, this particular plant had the structure of an Afghani and the color (less chlorophyll) and aroma of a Sativa, out of over 200 plants there were only two or three of this type and this is why I snapped this shot.
 
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