Bat House

[writtin]

Hello all, I have a bat house on my property. I do not know what kind of bats they are or the nutritional values of their guano. I just know there is a LOT of it. I have some clones about to be transplanted to 1 gallon pots and I was going to do a little experiment with 1. I was going to make some guano tea and give it a half of a cup of that every other watering. Would using pond water work to water a second plant with as part of the same experiment? It would be from a fully stocked koi pond. I would really appreciate it if anybody who posted knew any other good DIY organic nutes I would be very happy to hear them and hear what they work well for.

Thank you - Ryan

 

[lokie]

that's cool.

i use free range gecko and frog guano on my plants.
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/556944-exotic-shit.html

Just a few logs per gallon, I have no idea what the NPK is, i doubt it is significant.

I use it mostly just because it is readily available and it sounds cool too.

Make a tea and use a PPM meter on a control plant.

Trial and error will gain you experience.

 

[writtin]

2 questions - do cheap($20) PPM meters work well? Also I could in theory go to a friends business and collect various reptilian excrement, or rat/mouse poop if either of those would work well. I feel the bat guano being on site is a much better option though.

 

[ProfessorPot]

I personally would never use fresh guano. Bats are one of the most common carriers of rabies

 

[writtin]

I have lived with these bats. They end up in my house on a regular basis. I am not afraid to use a shovel and gloves to pick up a little poop. Thank you for the response but unless it is a serious one about the effects it would have on a plant I would rather not hear it.

 

[bluntmassa1]

I personally would never use fresh guano. Bats are one of the most common carriers of rabies

I highly doubt your gonna get rabies from a plant grown in bat shit. unless your rubing it in an open wound you'll be fine. the only problem is you don't know the nutrient content but you may be able to find something depending on type of bat and area you live their might be info on your guano.

 

[writtin]

I highly doubt your gonna get rabies from a plant grown in bat shit. unless your rubing it in an open wound you'll be fine. the only problem is you don't know the nutrient content but you may be able to find something depending on type of bat and area you live their might be info on your guano.

I was going to go into my local store as there is a certified nutrient guy there. But so far I was just planning on experimenting. I got a little lazy with my clone transplant and I forgot to buy the soil*DOH* so I'm going to use a few strawberry plants I have to start off with this experiment.

 

[scroglodyte]

I have lived with these bats. They end up in my house on a regular basis. I am not afraid to use a shovel and gloves to pick up a little poop. Thank you for the response but unless it is a serious one about the effects it would have on a plant I would rather not hear it.

bubonic plague, hanta virus...............dude is giving you a brotherly heads-up on fresh guano, and you torpedo him. maybe if you eat some, it will improve your appreciation

 

[writtin]

bubonic plague, hanta virus...............dude is giving you a brotherly heads-up on fresh guano, and you torpedo him. maybe if you eat some, it will improve your appreciation

Scrog I know about the diseases, that is not my worry. I am trying to figure out if my plants will love it or hate it.

 

[SupraSPL]

If you check it out up close you should be able to see shiny insect parts. Fresh insectivorous bat pellets from this study were 8-2.5-1 http://redalyc.uaemex.mx/pdf/939/93960208.pdf Fruit bats from what I understand produce high P guano.

From my (few) studies the most common dangerous pathogen of insectivorous guano results in a minor fever and that is only in sensitive people. On the other hand if you have immune deficiency for any reason you may want to avoid it.

 

[writtin]

If you check it out up close you should be able to see shiny insect parts. Fresh insectivorous bat pellets from this study were 8-2.5-1 http://redalyc.uaemex.mx/pdf/939/93960208.pdf Fruit bats from what I understand produce high P guano.

From my (few) studies the most common dangerous pathogen of insectivorous guano results in a minor fever and that is only in sensitive people. On the other hand if you have immune deficiency for any reason you may want to avoid it.

I read that insect eating bats were high N and thats all i have ever seen them eat

 

[Closetgardner]

dont know if this is useful but here it is anyway.....
Bat Guano – High N
Typical NPK analysis 10-3-1
Release time 4+ months
Pros Stimulates soil microbes
Application Till in 5 pounds per 100 square feet or as a tea at
3 teaspoons per gallon of water
Bat Guano

and this.......
Bat Guano – High P
Typical NPK analysis 3-10-1
Release time 4+ months
Pros Stimulates soil microbes
Application Till in 5 pounds per 100 square feet or as tea at 3
teaspoons per gallon of water

 

[writtin]

dont know if this is useful but here it is anyway.....
Bat Guano – High N
Typical NPK analysis 10-3-1
Release time 4+ months
Pros Stimulates soil microbes
Application Till in 5 pounds per 100 square feet or as a tea at
3 teaspoons per gallon of water
Bat Guano

Assuming what I read what correct - insect eating bats like the ones I have here are high in nitrogen. I used roughly 1 cup of bat guano, 1 cup of pond slime, and a 5 gallon bucket with a 20 gal airator and a 4" airstone.

 

[Doobius1]

Rabies needs to be transmitted via saliva to blood ie a bite. Also fresh bat guano will likely fry your plant but go ahead experiment all you want

 

[writtin]

Fresh? Aged for years with fresh on top. Made into tea, I am not worried about rabies, and I will be doing a small small amount at first - then slowly bringing it up. However thank you for your concern. I will be doing this with 2 seperate plants.

 

[Closetgardner]

yh soz i should have pasted the bit about the difference between fruit eating and insect eating bats guano. never mind good luck i hope it works out for you!

 

[writtin]

yh soz i should have pasted the bit about the difference between fruit eating and insect eating bats guano. never mind good luck i hope it works out for you!

I will be selecting 2 plants to begin doing this with tomorrow. 3 days is enough to adjust from a transplant imo.