3 1000W or 5 600W?

[mr2shim]

I can tell you live on the east coast. What grade are you in? Nobody ever argued that you don't know what you're talking about. I think you are pretty book smart. But where's your grow? It's ok to not have one or have never grown, but don't start being a dick because people are calling you out on it.

If you were so secure you wouldn't be scared to post pictures of your grow or admit you don't have one. You're the insecure one buddy.

 

[IndicaDom]

I can tell you live on the east coast. What grade are you in? Nobody ever argued that you don't know what you're talking about. I think you are pretty book smart. But where's your grow? It's ok to not have one or have never grown, but don't start being a dick because people are calling you out on it.

If you were so secure you wouldn't be scared to post pictures of your grow or admit you don't have one. You're the insecure one buddy.

I'm not in any grade, I've completed my formal education. "Have never grown", whatever you say pal, but every time you give incorrect information don't throw such a tantrum when I'm there proving you wrong for the greater good.

 

[OLD DUDE]

He's just like the Herpies, just won't go away!!

 

[dirty11]

whats up family, im trying to customize a grow tent and was wondering if 1000 watt dimmable ballast was too much or just right for 55x55x79? also if the 1000w is ok then how close can i run my lights to plants ?

 

[mr2shim]

I'm not in any grade, I've completed my formal education. "Have never grown", whatever you say pal, but every time you give incorrect information don't throw such a tantrum when I'm there proving you wrong for the greater good.

I'm not throwing a tantrum. Who's the one telling everybody they're insecure? Oh right, you.

He's just like the Herpies, just won't go away!!

Quite scary isn't it.

 

[cannabineer]

whats up family, im trying to customize a grow tent and was wondering if 1000 watt dimmable ballast was too much or just right for 55x55x79? also if the 1000w is ok then how close can i run my lights to plants ?

Yes, and maintain at least two feet from tops to bulb axis. Your grow area temps will also have an effect on minimum practical distance. cn

 

[IndicaDom]

whats up family, im trying to customize a grow tent and was wondering if 1000 watt dimmable ballast was too much or just right for 55x55x79? also if the 1000w is ok then how close can i run my lights to plants ?

Never buy dimmable ballasts, or digital ballasts.

 

[cannabineer]

Never buy dimmable ballasts, or digital ballasts.

Why do you dislike digital ballasts so strongly? cn

 

[mr2shim]

Never buy dimmable ballasts, or digital ballasts.

Better listen to God. If you don't he will start calling you names. All the while not proving any of his claims with anything other than words repeated.

Why do you dislike digital ballasts so strongly? cn

Probably because his internet research says magnetic ballasts give you optimal lumen. He has no real proof though. Don't ask for it either, he will start calling you names.

 

[IndicaDom]

Why do you dislike digital ballasts so strongly? cn

In my experience they just aren't as efficient, the technology isn't quite there yet. The pulse to fire up the bulb isn't as smooth and this causes your bulbs to wear out faster, also I never buy these $90+ bulbs, that is just marketing hype the same as the car audio industry. Maybe in 5 - 10 years the digital ballasts might be worth it, but when I can buy a 1000W and wire it up myself for under $100, you just can't beat that type of durability and price.

Better listen to God. If you don't he will start calling you names. All the while not proving any of his claims with anything other than words repeated.



Probably because his internet research says magnetic ballasts give you optimal lumen. He has no real proof though. Don't ask for it either, he will start calling you names.

Should I link you to some articles? I am not sure if you would be able to comprehend the terminology, but I am totally willing to share my resources with you.

 

[mr2shim]

I'd rather you show me your pretend grow. I've read plenty of articles stating what I said. Oh right, you are God and wrote the book on cannabis cultivation.

 

[cannabineer]

In my experience they just aren't as efficient, the technology isn't quite there yet. The pulse to fire up the bulb isn't as smooth and this causes your bulbs to wear out faster, also I never buy these $90+ bulbs, that is just marketing hype the same as the car audio industry. Maybe in 5 - 10 years the digital ballasts might be worth it, but when I can buy a 1000W and wire it up myself for under $100, you just can't beat that type of durability and price.



Should I link you to some articles? I am not sure if you would be able to comprehend the terminology, but I am totally willing to share my resources with you.

I understand the bit about the power pulse being rougher on the bulb. However, I formerly ran magnetics and now have a digital, and it's served me quite well. In operation, my digital has not proven inferior. I'm not using "digital-spec" bulbs but don't really care, since I'm gonna run them for much less than their rated life. I would call it a matter of taste rather than a growroom commandment. cn

 

[IndicaDom]

I understand the bit about the power pulse being rougher on the bulb. However, I formerly ran magnetics and now have a digital, and it's served me quite well. In operation, my digital has not proven inferior. I'm not using "digital-spec" bulbs but don't really care, since I'm gonna run them for much less than their rated life. I would call it a matter of taste rather than a growroom commandment. cn

Everything you implement in your garden, in my opinion should be tested by scaling it up in costs. Digital ballasts eat through bulbs, I doubt most people on here measure the intensity of a fresh bulb and every month there after. You need to be replacing bulbs not based on how much time has elapsed, but how much intensity they have lost over time. Digital ballasts will eat through bulbs, and if you do buy any type of grow bulb that is going to cost you more money.

If we were running 50 lights, all digital ballasts right off the bat let us look at costs of us wiring it ourselves and buying possible 50 ballasts 1000W. Ebay has them averaging at around $250 per ballast, not including a bulb, a Lumatek digital ballast.

50 x 250 = $12,500, quite a bit of money if you ask me, and I realize most people on here have very small arrangements, but it is impossible to see the difference in cost without scaling up your grow. Not everyone is going to do this, it is simply a model to follow.

1000bulbs.com, Plusrite 1000W ballast, 10+ @ $90 a pop.

50 x 90 = $4,500, now I don't know about you, but over the course of a grow, digital ballasts just don't perform as well when looking at cost versus benefit.

 

[cannabineer]

Everything you implement in your garden, in my opinion should be tested by scaling it up in costs. Digital ballasts eat through bulbs, I doubt most people on here measure the intensity of a fresh bulb and every month there after. You need to be replacing bulbs not based on how much time has elapsed, but how much intensity they have lost over time. Digital ballasts will eat through bulbs, and if you do buy any type of grow bulb that is going to cost you more money.

If we were running 50 lights, all digital ballasts right off the bat let us look at costs of us wiring it ourselves and buying possible 50 ballasts 1000W. Ebay has them averaging at around $250 per ballast, not including a bulb, a Lumatek digital ballast.

50 x 250 = $12,500, quite a bit of money if you ask me, and I realize most people on here have very small arrangements, but it is impossible to see the difference in cost without scaling up your grow. Not everyone is going to do this, it is simply a model to follow.

1000bulbs.com, Plusrite 1000W ballast, 10+ @ $90 a pop.

50 x 90 = $4,500, now I don't know about you, but over the course of a grow, digital ballasts just don't perform as well when looking at cost versus benefit.

I have no issue with any of this. I am a one-lamp grower however, since I'm meeting a hobbyist/medicinal need and sell none of my crop. Should I have reason to expand, I'll keep those ballasts in mind. Fabricating a case wouldn't be a great hardship. cn

 

[boedhaspeaks]

@indicadom
Still love to see your growroom, next year i want to expand my growroom and like to see how you did it.

 

[IndicaDom]

@indicadom
Still love to see your growroom, next year i want to expand my growroom and like to see how you did it.

I will never post pictures of my grow, sorry.

 

[gaztron3030]

I will never post pictures of my grow, sorry.

And I will never post pics of the Loch Ness Monster which I have chained in my back yard

 

[mr2shim]

And I will never post pics of the Loch Ness Monster which I have chained in my back yard

You're kidding right! So do I! They must be brothers. Bigfoot helped me find it. Took prolly 3 minutes. I have a meeting with Batman tomorrow to help me track down Robin Hood. Son of a bitch stole my gold the leprechaun gave me when I reached the end of the rainbow

 

[gaztron3030]

You're kidding right! So do I! They must be brothers. Bigfoot helped me find it. Took prolly 3 minutes. I have a meeting with Batman tomorrow to help me track down Robin Hood. Son of a bitch stole my gold the leprechaun gave me when I reached the end of the rainbow

I bet those guys have all seen IndicaDoms grow. Being from the same realm of reality as his plants.

 

[mr2shim]

I bet those guys have all seen IndicaDoms grow. Being from the same realm of reality as his plants.

Good point, I should contact Batman to take pictures of IndicaDom's grow. You know he has all kind of gadgets in that utility belt. A camera is bound to be amongst them.