3 1000W or 5 600W?

Warlock1369 said:

No body cares what you say. You can't prove anything so bounce. You non growing fuck!

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Warlock1369 said:

I showed my grow all we ask is one from you. Can you do it? No why? You don't grow so blow me and piss off

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IndicaDom said:

"No body", lol, top 5000 positions in the world huh?

Nobody is trying to prove anything to someone as ignorant as yourself.

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gaztron3030 said:

this thread is an epic bitch fest!
Poor OP

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IndicaDom said:

You obviously speak English as a second language, you obviously believe that posting pictures up is "proof" you're a grower. Why are you still posting in this thread? You have nothing to offer except for bad advice like, running 5/600W bulbs for a 12'x4' table, and the worse part is you don't even understand why that advice is bad.

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gaztron3030 said:

this thread is an epic bitch fest!
Poor OP

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IndicaDom said:

The OP's question has been answered numerous times, even after he changed the entire layout of his grow, those questions were answered as well. It isn't "poor OP", it is what a "lucky OP".

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GrnMn said:

So what man, don't take the side of the people who aren't acting like they know everything in the universe? Or should I correct you on relays and explain to you the difference between a single pole single throw relay and a double pole single throw relay? Or that rather than saying flip-flop you should abbreviate to differentiate?

I can't say much, I've only grown pot for about 17 years. All the articles and books I've written don't account for much. Opinions are like assholes; everybody's got one. I've given up trying to preach and change the world. If someone asks me for help, I'm happy to oblige, but to try and force your account on someone is much like being a modern day nazi. If someone does not appreciate your advice, move on. Stop bitching, it is irritating.

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Warlock1369 said:

I already apologized for this. But a troll is not welcome. All we ask is 1 pic and you can't do it. Fuck you leave this thread and forum.

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gaztron3030 said:

No you gave an answer that suited what you think is best not what the OP was asking.
You also kept saying 6x600w bulbs which shows you are too into stating your opinion on how "awesome" a grower you are and not about helping answer questions.
And my god are you a bitch!

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IndicaDom said:

I wouldn't buy that many lights, you are talking about a 12 foot table. Break that into two 6 foot sections, buy 2/1000W bulbs and throw them on light movers. A 1000W HPS' footprint is 5'x5'. Now if you have a 12x4 table it should easily be able to cover the width of that table. The interesting thing is with light movers and the footprint of (1)1000W HPS, at any given time only 1 foot on each section is going to be unlit. Plus that means you only have to move the light across a 1 foot linear path. This is the most efficient way to light the table and to save the most money. I mean seriously, (6) 600W ballasts? Fuck that, I guarantee the exact same yield from 2/1000W HPS on light movers covering that table. Why use so much electricity? An even better idea is to have two rooms with two 12x4 tables, buy 2/1000W HPS ballasts, buy a flip-flop relay and run both rooms on 12/12 all the time. Now you are running your ballasts 24 hours a day, lighting 2 rooms with 2, 12x4 tables. That is efficiency my friend.

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IndicaDom said:

Do I need to do the math for you (2)1000W HPS versus (6)600W? Let us say you pay 10 cents per kilowatt hour, and you are running these lights on a simple 12/12 schedule everyday for a year.

(2)1000W = 2kw per hour
(6)600W = 3.6kw per hour

365 days x 12 hours per day = 4,380 hours total

Now that we have the total hours, we can calculate the cost of each individual setup.

(2)1000W; 4,380 hours x 2kw per hour x .10 cents per kw = $876 per year to constantly run (2)1000W HPS bulbs 12 hours a day all year.
(6)600W; 4,380 hours x 3.6kw per hour x .10 cents per kw = $1,576.8 per year to constantly run (6)1000W HPS bulbs 12 hours a day all year.

Now since you are going to be growing over the exact same area, a 12'x4' table, why on earth would you run so much light, do you honestly believe that you are going to be able to yield such a substantial amount of marijuana in comparison to someone running 2 1000W? Do you believe you will make up for the amount of electricity used? I didn't even account for keeping temperatures cool and how much easier it is to run ducting to two lights as opposed to six lights.

If a 600W covers a 4'x4' area and a 1000W covers a 5'x5' area, and you are running a 12'x4' table which is a total of 48 square feet. Now since 1000W covers 25 square feet, and two cover 50 square feet, why on earth would you go with 6 600W that would give you a total of 16x6= 96 square feet. You are wasting light, and wasting money, and efficient growing is how we are going to save the planet.



Don't believe in that "light mover stuff"? Tell me, do plants in nature get sunlight from one direction? Also on top of that, do you honestly believe that any plant not receiving direct sunlight "under performs"? If that was a reality then nothing would grow in the shade, all fan leaves under the canopy would immediately die and there would be no lower buds on the branches. Which clearly isn't true, so just because you have a bud 10" from the bulb and another bud 18" from the bulb you're trying to tell me that you could discern once dried and cured between those two top colas? No, you can't.



Its more than intriguing, it is the most efficient way to grow.



A light mover would cover the discrepancy of the 1 foot not being covered by the 5'x5' footprint of the bulbs. Also what do you mean by "dead spot", no light? Not going to happen, but take a meter for measuring light intensity and you will see towards the edges how much the intensity will drop off.

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gaztron3030 said:

Should I continue?

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gaztron3030 said:

No you gave an answer that suited what you think is best not what the OP was asking.
You also kept saying 6x600w bulbs

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IndicaDom said:

I never said 6/600W, you haven't read any of this thread obviously.

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laced23z said:

You should go with the six 600 watters you get more coverage

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The New Jim Jones said:

if your a good grower who gets a gram per watt, 5 600's is better

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IndicaDom said:

You are wrong, 5 x 600W is not the better bet, this has been discussed in length in this thread, please read it.

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Warlock1369 said:

Your a troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll? Should I keep going you fucken troll. Nothing you have said or will say means shit. Your just a pos and desided to fuck up the op thread. If you went a pussy I would say meet me for lunch at echo park tomarrow. A bitch like you wouldn't even get near there.

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IndicaDom said:

My the reading comprehension of the average cannabis grower, so poor...



Some context...since you failed to provide any...



Someone posted saying to use (6)600W, I used that as an example to show a comparison in use of electricity...





6/600W wasn't my answer to the OP, 5/600W wasn't my answer to the OP either, learn what context is and stop looking like a freaking idiot.



Look at how mad you are at being proven wrong, get over it.

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