you're god does not exist

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Jesus and Mohammad lived. Christianity and Islam exist. By not teaching that others may believe something different than what you do, knowledge is lost and then the first free thinking person will have hell to pay only because of intolerance. Knowledge is power. Beliefs exist, based in fact or not. not teaching that they exist leaves one unprepared for the future. I see nothing wrong in teaching what does exist, not so much what people believe. people should be free to believe in what they wish. Many would have us believe MMJ is just a myth. should the knowledge of "Mary Jane" be erased and pushed out of existence? The plant will still be a plant and people will still argue over its useful purposes. edit: i have attempted to format this post more than once. the wall of letters is not by design.
I do agree that teaching the history of religion(s) is a valuable part of teaching history. Religion has been a major influence on society as far back as we can see or remember. I had gotten a different vibe from your earlier post ... something about teaching certain truths, which suggested teaching certain beliefs. I probably misindexed on that. cn
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Agreed, and I feel the same way about Capitalism too.

A system where people make chemical weapons for money but keep it quiet. ... the horrors are too much to list. <sigh>

At least Fascism was in your face. Capitalism hides behind a ultra thin veneer of respectability. Bunch of cunts.
National Socialism was an ideology (complete with a homegrown mythology or "theory of everything") however. Capitalism isn't and never was an ideology or political movement afaik, even though it's routinely (and incorrectly imo) held up as the converse of Socialism. cn
 

Moebius

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National Socialism was an ideology (complete with a homegrown mythology or "theory of everything") however. Capitalism isn't and never was an ideology or political movement afaik, even though it's routinely (and incorrectly imo) held up as the converse of Socialism. cn
Capitalism isn't and never was an ideology .... No? tell that to Romney and his other GOP goons.

Straight up, Capitalism is as disgusting as Fascism. Leave it to the free-marketeers and we'll all be living on a dust bowl fighting for the last scrap of bread.

edit:

sorry, I'm beginning to loose perspective. I find it that abhorrent.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Capitalism isn't and never was an ideology .... No? tell that to Romney and his other GOP goons.

Straight up, Capitalism is as disgusting as Fascism. Leave it to the free-marketeers and we'll all be living on a dust bowl fighting for the last scrap of bread.
Their ideology is authoritarianism. They say capitalism, but not properly. Jmo. cn
 

kpmarine

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Their ideology is authoritarianism. They say capitalism, but not properly. Jmo. cn
True capitalism means there's no such thing as a bank "too big to fail", or any other company for that matter. That's the problem with our "capitalism" today, it's a system where you can buy your success from government. The regulation is good, but the government handouts are bad. Too many conflicts of interest these days. That's what happens when you dub money "protected speech" (Not a bad idea, in some applications.), and then say that companies are "people too" (I honestly can't think of any time this is good.).
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Never mind the stick ... his dudeship has a folding head ornament! Now which rapper will be first to imitate? cn
 

guy incognito

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In most beliefs there is some grain of truth.
Then why not extract the grain of truth and teach that? And if the truth can't be extracted and identified, then what good is it anyway?

Jesus and Mohammad lived. Christianity and Islam exist. By not teaching that others may believe something different than what you do, knowledge is lost and then the first free thinking person will have hell to pay only because of intolerance.

Knowledge is power.

Beliefs exist, based in fact or not. not teaching that they exist leaves one unprepared for the future.

I see nothing wrong in teaching what does exist, not so much what people believe. people should be free to believe in what they wish.

Many would have us believe MMJ is just a myth. should the knowledge of "Mary Jane" be erased and pushed out of existence? The plant will still be a plant and people will still argue over its useful purposes.
No one is saying we should deny the existance of jesus, christianity, or other religions. What I am saying is that the theory of intelligent design and creationism is bullshit and should not be taught as a viable explanation.
 

eye exaggerate

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[...]What I am saying is that the theory of intelligent design and creationism is bullshit and should not be taught as a viable explanation.
...hi. Do you think it is fair to say that all of your surroundings were thought of first, before 'becoming the things that are around you'?
 
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