Enter Detroit at your own risk police say

[purklize]

I don't see where I said all black people will shoot white people for being white. Still though, the truth is racism is completely out of control in Detroit. It goes both ways.

Half my family is from Detroit, going back over a century... I'm not blind to the nature of the place. I've been in some scary places but Detroit is truly in a league of its own.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/google-street-view-detroit-gun-porch_n_1901954.html

 

[stumpjumper]

Detroit is a shit hole. Anyone arguing different is just fucking retarded or something, sorry.

 

[purklize]

Isolated incident. Way to generalize that all black people in Detroit will shoot white people just because they are white.

Forgot to respond to this... I'm sorry but calling that an isolated incident is just fucking retarded... Detroit had 17,000 reported violent crimes in 2010, and again, that's just the ones that were reported... which is probably a tiny fraction of the ones that actually happen, due to either fear of retribution for calling it in, or the cops just flat out not wanting to show up or lacking the resources (heard countless tales of automatic gunfire being followed by crickets, not sirens).

As far as anti-white racism being nonexistent... complete bullshit. I've been harassed bigtime for being white before. "Hey white boy, gimme a dolla! Fuck it rich boy give me a million!" heard that one before. Never mind that I was wearing clothes so sunbleached the original color was gone, my hat had shredded threads hanging off the edges, my pants were torn to pieces and full of holes, my hoodie was falling apart and didn't zip up anymore, and my shoes were duct taped together with the soles falling off... sorry to break your bubble but victimization by racism is not reserved for blacks. In today's world, anti-black racism continues to be a huge, widespread problem, due to whites generally controlling economic resources and being dominant in society, but anti-white racism is far more violent. Blacks don't get shanked for rolling through the 'burbs. If you really believe whites don't take shit for being white, and get subjected to violence for it, you need to wake the fuck up. Sure, you know some white guys that made it in Detroit. They probably avoided the areas where the anti-white racism was bad, so that's meaningless, and I know a lot of white guys who survived too. I've managed to not get shot. So what? It's still rampant. My dad had black friends in the 70s in Detroit and they told him they couldn't be seen with him back in their part of town, because they'd be beaten for associating with whites. And yeah, the people that do that shit are dumb beyond belief. All they are doing is helping white supremacists make their case, as foul and as bullshit as it is. Act like a crazy fuck who hates reading and thinking and generally acting like a civil human being, and throw in hating whites... predictable that a lot of the less intelligent whites will get defensive and afraid and disgusted and hence fooled into buying into racism. And then the way they treat blacks vindicates the anti-white racists... oh, what a wonderful cycle it is. Denying it's happening doesn't solve anything though, it's like bailing for California in your car that's been choking black smoke with a knocking engine and expecting good results. These problems need to be brought out into the sun and dealt with. Blowing them off is why this shit has been going on for decades and only seems to get worse. And again, many/most don't behave like such assholes, but like the Taliban in Afghanistan, the worst actions speak the loudest.

 

[Rare D MI]

Your friend getting shot by a psychotic racist black dude is an isolated incident. Where was he? Why won't you answer that? Southwest gangland?

Your shit is all anecdotal and here say. And mostly straight up suburban white ignorance and racism. 90% of the people I know are white people living within the actual city of Detroit. I actually spend a lot of time in Detroit. It's people like you that make this shit even worse. Sensationalizing and spreading unfounded fear. 2011 was the first year in 30 years that the population of caucasian people under the age of 40 has risen. My generation is taking the city back for the people. White people and black people can live side by side with no problems. It's people like most of you in this thread that don't wanna touch the city with a 1000 foot poll that keep Detroit the shithole it is.

Fuck that. We ruled the country at one point, the city of Detroit has a lot to offer. You wanna stay out of it, your loss. No tigers, lions or red wings games in your future. No 4 star meals at the restaurants in the MGM Grand, no 4 course authentic Italian meals at marios, no greektown.

Know where to be, you look like a square white boy, you're a mark. Stay out of the ghetto. If you don't, its your own fault if something happens.

 

[purklize]

Know where to be, you look like a square white boy, you're a mark. Stay out of the ghetto. If you don't, its your own fault if something happens.

You just invalidated everything you said about what a great city Detroit is.

Must be your ancestors fault for living too close to the African coast. They knew the slave traders operated there.

Nice way of thinking, isn't it? Blame the victim.

My family has lived in Detroit so long that I don't even know when it began. It goes back at least 5 generations. No one has had anything good to say about it after the riots in '67. And they sure weren't squares. Nor was I.

I've been to Detroit plenty of times, there are some fun things to do but honestly, the city is a complete joke compared to any other major metropolitan area in the country. Ann Arbor is a tenth the size and has ten times as many grocery stores. Last I heard Detroit was about to open it's only grocery store, a Whole Foods. Marquette has better shopping options and it has a population of 20,000.

Detroiters like yourself have been there so long you're used to living in the worst city in America and can't see how bad it is. There's a reason it's the butt of jokes throughout the country. I'll give you a hint: Detroit isn't struggling because of misconceptions from outsiders, that's just delusional.

I'm not giving you the location my friend was killed at for two reasons: one, I don't owe you that and two, I don't want to give away his identity or that of my own on here. It was a very public case and I knew him longer than my own sister. He wasn't cruising through some bad area in search of drugs. He was walking home from work, had an empty wallet, and the mugger flipped out and shot him, went home to play video games and was later arrested... and he justified it by saying "he was white" and the "white man brings the black man down. "

You're just playing the "that ain't shit" game to passive aggressively talk up how tough you are... like some Siberian dude checking out Ann Arbor in January walking around in a t-shirt laughing about how our winters "ain't shit."

And you're still delusional about the supposed lack of racism in Detroit. It's the worst I've seen anywhere outside of the deep south. There's a reason the worst race riots in the history of America took place in Detroit. They sent in a tank and there were pitched gun battles with the National Guard running for days. The President repeatedly pressured the Governor to declare a state of insurrection. If that's not proof of racism then the Civil War wasn't either.

 

[sniffer]

i beg to differ ,,
Detroit is on the come back , just last week i was fishing in the detroit river
and after i unsnaged my line from a floating body part , i reeled in a nice sliver bass that had three eyes !
and what looked to be a 3rd gill coming out of its back ,,

lol

 

[purklize]

http://www.freep.com/article/20111113/NEWS01/110131031/Living-murder-Interactive-map-breakdown-lives-lost-violence-Detroit-since-03

Where's the good area? Again, crimes are vastly underreported in Detroit (and the PD has been caught fudging data). Looks like Highland Park was left out, that's a fine area, they shut down their PD and now thieves are scrapping it.

 

[purklize]

17,000 violent crimes in one year. Assuming that all violent crimes were actually reported to the Detroit PD (yeah right), and all violent crimes known by the Detroit PD properly reported to the FBI (also: yeah right), given the population is 700,000, that puts the chances of a random individual being a victim of a violent crime at 75% in a 50 year time frame.

 

[Rare D MI]

Be part of the solution, not the problem man. It will never get any better and will never cease to be the butt of jokes because of fucking racist suburbanite douchebags who have written it off since the riots... A whopping 45 years ago! Great reason to write the city off and prove your point of racisim, cause 45 years ago it had the worst "race riot ever", I guess LA in '92 doesn't count...

I'm not trying to look tough, I'm not trying to be a badass, I love my city and hate ignorant assholes talking shit about it. Quote all the crime statistics you want.

And gee I wonder why there are no grocery stores, maybe because corporations are racist and don't build stores in "Urban" areas in ANY major metro city. No whole foods in harlem...all bodegas. This is part of the problem. Instead of people like you seeing it as an injustice that poor inner city people don't have easy access to healthy food, you say "fuck that place, they don't even have anywhere to shop."

Maybe if stupid threads full of ignorant racists Like this didn't exist, and people started helping the city and the people, what you perceive as "them" hating you would disappear. Shit gets crazy when people are oppressed, and it's a fucking travesty that in the city you can have enough money for groceries, or gas to get to the store in the suburbs, but not both. So fruit from the liquor store and mcdonalds for dinner it is..

Maybe I should change my stance. Stay out of Detroit, we don't fucking want you here.

 

[gladstoned]

I love Detroit. I hope to contribute to making it a better place. I owe it that, cuz I helped fuck it up.
Today is a new day for me, for Detroit also.

 

[stumpjumper]

We're ignorant racists because Detroit has the worst crime rate in the state, also rated one of the most dangerous cities in the USA? Oh man I feel like shit because it's my fault?

Fucking ignorant calling people you don't even know racists. My best friend is black along with many other of my friends. I voted for a black man to run our country. I have a BUNCH of people that will back up that I'm the furthest motherfucker from being racist that there is. You want outsiders to help make the D better? What do you want us to do, grab our guns and come there and start shooting thugs? You want your city back so bad that's what you all better do.

Every city has bad areas, none of them even compare to the rats nest you live in. Enjoy the city through your rose colored glasses and hope like hell when your day comes that you can get the police to respond before you are dead. It can happen anywhere but your odds are better than mine.

The only thing that's going to save that city is a military occupation and genocide against a good portion of "Detroiter's".

Personally I'd give anybody with a half of brain a couple days to get the fuck out of there and then fence that fucking place in.

 

[gladstoned]

Before our whole Michigan thread gets divided over whether Detroit is cool or not, let's see if medical marijuana gets decriminalized there first. Let's see what unfolds over next 6 months. Something as radical as mj being legal can make HUGE progress fast. You guys are arguing, and you are all pretty correct in what you are saying and feeling. Detroit IS cool, and it IS fucked up! It is one of the most dangerous places in US and there is more crackers than ever in city. It's nothing to fight about. I see Detroit starting it's rise, from it's worst. I don't think it will get worse, I believe it will get better - quickly. Good thing is, it's easy to avoid for those that hate it.

 

[Rare D MI]

^^^^^^i have a black friend, and voted for Obama that makes me not racist^^^^^^

How cliche.

Meanwhile your political and social views probably tell a different story.

Saying you want a genocide to happen to a city that is 90% black is about as racist as you can get.

 

[TheMan13]

I don't recall there being the same racial problems back in the 80's as today. Hell we all pulled together and created a crime syndicate like never known before (YBI). Then came crack and the rise of west coast type street gangs, things just got ugly.

Aside from that, Detroit's biggest problem is this. When I joined the service in the late 80's the population of Detroit was at 2 million, but by the end of my first tour literally half the population had left the city. Now I watch Detroit literally go bankrupt decades later as it pays for this over build and under population. This is not only a problem with liberal policies here, but rather brutal mathematics now

 

[purklize]

Yup, what the hell are you on about? My best friend is black. Known him since the 8th grade. He agrees with me on Detroit.

Lmao - Detroit has no grocery stores because corporations are racist. You sure your name ain't Chapelle? This attitude is half of the problem Detroit has. Blaming its issues on ridiculous shit. Why do you think it has such a reputation? News flash: most other inner city populations are largely black and they have grocery stores.

And I said my family is from Detroit. Not the 'burbs.

 

[stumpjumper]

^^^^^^i have a black friend, and voted for Obama that makes me not racist^^^^^^

How cliche.

Meanwhile your political and social views probably tell a different story.

Saying you want a genocide to happen to a city that is 90% black is about as racist as you can get.

Dude you're a dipshit lol seriously, no offense man don't take it personal because I'm not taking it personal that you think I'm a racist. I don't fucking care what color the the motherfuckers are that shoot, kill, rape, rob etc... Yes think if people started killing them off then you'd see a dramatic reduction of crime in Detroit.

I can't help if Detroit is predominantly black..

Maybe we should blame LilWayne, Birdman and Rick Ross for all these thugs...

 

[purklize]

Yeah it's funny, you will never meet someone who hates racists more than me. I have made the lives of a few neo-Nazis a living hell in the past. Which is why I won't let this one go. Blacks aren't the only victims of racism. You say I'm a racist for telling stories of anti-white racism. So, if I tell you a story about the three black men who were lynched 100 yards from my uncles house at 2am in Tennessee, am I an anti-white racist? And no, he didn't just idly let it happen. He would've blown those "Night Riders" away with his rifle if he'd been awake when it happened. Almost everyone in his area would've done the same. It's the actions of a miserable few who make the rest look bad, and (understandably) scare away those of the race that was targeted. At least most whites admit there's a problem. (Those who say racism is a thing of the past are ignorant.) You, however, are in denial.

You said all I had was anecdotal evidence, so I provided objective evidence - statistics and data showing murders happen all over the city, and that you are more likely than not to be victimized by a violent crime in your lifetime living there. And then you called me a racist... lol. Typical cop out, pulling the race card when it doesn't even make sense. Keep it up, you're just arming the white supremacists with arguments. The fact is, your city is out of control, and is such a dump that my friends here from countries like Vietnam and Mexico gawk at how fucked up it is. A city doesn't maintain the reputation as the most dangerous city in America for 40 years without a reason.

Ironically, you're the real racist here. You're blaming whites for everything. Whites are why you have no grocery stores. Whites are why the city is in the toilet. Whites are why your crime is out of control. Whites are why the city's reputation sucks. No, it's the people that live there that are the problem, and the investors who pulled the plug on all the industry who are both black and white. Everyone knows Detroit is a disaster zone in every sense of the word except you... and the things you blame it on only make you look absurd.

I don't know anyone that lives there except those who can't find work elsewhere, those who can't sell their homes, those who have aging parents, and those who don't have the money to leave. It used to be a great city, but it sure isn't anymore. The anarchy is fun to think about, but living there really is shit, especially compared with any other city... hell, Chicago has a bad reputation and it's not nearly as wack as Detroit. If you really want lawlessness it can be found in the country anyway and then you don't have to deal with outrageously high property taxes, terrible or non-existent services, scrappers gutting your house in broad daylight, and racial violence and mass arsons at the end of every October.

When I was locked up a couple black guys befriended me - they were awesome people... and THEY warned me about anti-white racism. I had to put up with some real stupid behavior in there.

Tying a bag over your head doesn't make the problems of the world go away. Wake up man...

 

[TheMan13]

Race is not the issue here, but rather unchallenged political corruption. The politics of Detroit & Chicago exploited the fact that this region was the greatest manufacturing history has known, chasing away any reasonable sustainable businesses and the workers went with. That said, the Detroit of today is the Chicago of tomorrow, just parallel the two cites as they are only a few decades off ...

 

[purklize]

Be part of the solution, not the problem man. It will never get any better and will never cease to be the butt of jokes because of fucking racist suburbanite douchebags who have written it off since the riots... A whopping 45 years ago! Great reason to write the city off and prove your point of racisim, cause 45 years ago it had the worst "race riot ever", I guess LA in '92 doesn't count...

They didn't have to send in tanks to deal with the riots in LA. Also, LA was not razed to the ground by mass arsons. Many of those burnt out buildings you see today were torched in '67. The city was never rebuilt. There are plenty of other places in the world still suffering the fallout from events of the mid-20th century, such as North Korea... how long ago it was doesn't mean anything. Detroit was changed forever by the riots. LA was not.

The only way Detroit will ever recover is if we see some massive reinvestment in infrastructure and industry. The unions weren't the problem. High wages weren't the problem. Low or nonexistent wages ARE the problem. Poverty is what makes a city into a hellhole. Whether wages were slashed or jobs eliminated entirely doesn't mean much, it will be a dump either way. The blame lies solely in the hands of the investors.

Your claim that Detroit is comparable to other big cities shows just how isolated you are in that place... hell, I drove through a riot in Compton once and thought that place looked like it was in better shape than much of Detroit.

 

[ozzrokk]

That is correct race is not the issue here. The fact that the police have allowed detroit to become a shithole is the issue. The fact that people think they can act like animals is the issues. The fact that people say if you are in the wrong area and you get shot then it is your fault is the issue. You want your city to be looked at better then stop making excuses and stop telling people it is their fault for being shot for LOOKING STUPID OR BEING IN THE WRONG AREA..... NO it is the coward that shot them for nothing that is who is at fault...... and those that think it is ok for this to happen....... Now are YOU part of the problem or part of the solution????? Think about it.