question about genetics and selfing to make seeds

<Grasshopper>

<Grasshopper>

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I have been wondering about this...hopefully someone can answer this about selfing to make seeds with colloidal silver solution.

If I have a nice plant...lets say its Jack Herrer and its a indica dominant pheno type with a nice fruity taste and I take this female and make it produce male pollen balls using the colloidal silver then I use the pollen to make seeds from the same cutting of this plant and get seeds. Could I then germinate these seeds and get different pheno types......just as if I had popped 10 seeds from the breeders pack of seeds? But not expect any males. Or is going to most likely be the same type pheno with no chances of a different pheno type or taller or shorter? You know....like when you order 10 seeds and the plants are all similar but there is always varying differences between seeds. One a little taller or more fruity or less dense buds.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to ask.

Thanks
 
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pmumbry

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pollinating a female with its own pollen will essentially create a clone of the female in seed form.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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you will get some variations but seed that are created this way are genetically limited, and prone to hermie.

crossing fem pollen say take you jack herrer pollen and use it on another female you will, get, a cross, with phenos, feminized, and less likely to herm.

then you can take this cross and make pollen and breed it with the jack herrer again this is called backcross. this will, give you more pheno types, feminized and close to the origional jack herrer you bred from.
 
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chongsbuddy

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pmumbry said:
pollinating a female with its own pollen will essentially create a clone of the female in seed form.
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why do you guys give info that you know nothing about?that statement is absolutely untrue!
you will get variation,in most cases a lot of variation.

DONT TALK WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!ALL IT DOES IS SPREAD MISINFORMATION!

and proneto herm,also not true,only on sensitive strains

dont listen to these guys,they dont know shit obviously!
 
TrynaGroSumShyt

TrynaGroSumShyt

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chongsbuddy said:
why do you guys give info that you know nothing about?that statement is absolutely untrue!
you will get variation,in most cases a lot of variation.

DONT TALK WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!ALL IT DOES IS SPREAD MISINFORMATION!

and proneto herm,also not true,only on sensitive strains,fucking tools.

dont listen to these guys,they dont know shit obviously!
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They will be hermie prone though. It's a natural safety net for reproduction.
 
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chongsbuddy

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still not completely true at all!

i have made thousands of fem seeds and only a few strains were tend to herm,mostly chem lines.


  • "They will be hermie prone though. It's a natural safety net for reproduction."​




 if what your saying is true then EVERY strain is herm prone!
 
TrynaGroSumShyt

TrynaGroSumShyt

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chongsbuddy said:
still not completely true at all!

i have made thousands of fem seeds and only a few strains were tend to herm,mostly chem lines.


  • "They will be hermie prone though. It's a natural safety net for reproduction."​

if what your saying is true then EVERY strain is herm prone!
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You are correct. Quite a few "Stable" strains will have a few beans per plant at the end of harvest. Not a shitload. But 3 r so per OZ is what i'd see. If that. I don't say thats herm'ing. It's selfing.
 
<Grasshopper>

<Grasshopper>

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I was under the impression that if my strain is stable...and I meen really stable as in I can apply some stimulators such as koolbloom or carborator and not get a hermie like some strains do when applied to soon into flower. Now light leaks or environment stressors I dont know because my room is dialed in really nice. Useing the silver to produce male sacs works and doesnt make the resulting pollin/seeds hermie prone....well anymore then other feminized seed from a breeder. I am just curios about the resulting seeds. My strain is not Jack but a TGA strain and some of the phenos have different scent and taste profiles. I was going to try to get seeds for freinds and hope for a better pheno...thats all.

Thanks for everything but I am still not sure. I will test and see. Thats the best way.

Again thanks
 
<Grasshopper>

<Grasshopper>

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Yes....one pollin sac popping in the middle of a bud makes for bag seed grows for the end consumers and no harm done to the quality/yeald
 
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pmumbry

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chongsbuddy said:
why do you guys give info that you know nothing about?that statement is absolutely untrue!
you will get variation,in most cases a lot of variation.

DONT TALK WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!ALL IT DOES IS SPREAD MISINFORMATION!

and proneto herm,also not true,only on sensitive strains,fucking tools.

dont listen to these guys,they dont know shit obviously!
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why don't you go read an article about self pollination. you will discover that the offspring are genetically identical to the parent plant. the statement i made is completely true. and for the record i never said there wouldn't be any variation.

here is one you can start with:
http://www.ukm.my/ahmadukm/images/stories/data/kuliah/manusia/artikel/pollination.htm

here is a quote from the article about pollination:
In self-pollination, pollen is transferred from the stamens to the pistil within one flower. The resulting seeds and the plants they produce inherit the genetic information of only one parent, and the new plants are genetically identical to the parent.
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polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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pmumbry said:
why don't you go read an article about self pollination. you will discover that the offspring are genetically identical to the parent plant. the statement i made is completely true. and for the record i never said there wouldn't be any variation.

here is one you can start with:
http://uccpbank.k12hsn.org/courses/CPBiology/bio_5_3_3_1.swf
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well there will be some variations... but for all purposes intended, yes they willl be pretty much identical to the parent.
 
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chongsbuddy

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there will always be variation in any type of breeding,that was my point exactly.you said every seed plant will be EXACTLY like the mom,which is not true.....pretty much isnt exactly pal.
 
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chongsbuddy

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An organism capable of asexual reproduction is able to produce offspring in the absence of a mate. In asexual reproduction, the offspring is a clone of the parent and therefore results in low genetic variation in the species as a whole.
 
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