Romney got tottally

MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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UncleBuck said:
you're not living in the same reality as the rest of us.
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It's far more realistic than believing Dems are going to turn out in the same numbers as 2008 and Repubs are going to turn out just as low as they did in 2008. EVERYONE not blinded by partisan goggles knows that is horseshit. I've heard lib talking puppet heads on MSNBC admit that's a pipe dream.
 
Fungus Gnat

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MuyLocoNC said:
It's far more realistic than believing Dems are going to turn out in the same numbers as 2008 and Repubs are going to turn out just as low as they did in 2008. EVERYONE not blinded by partisan goggles knows that is horseshit. I've heard lib talking puppet heads on MSNBC admit that's a pipe dream.
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The best turnout republicans ever got was breaking even with democrats in 2004 37% to 37% or R +0. The polls Obama won tonight were R+3 to R+6 which means he won in a sample that would be more conservative than any election on record.
 
Krayven Sumhead

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Just wasn't a good day for the Romney Team and Republicans in general.

First, early voting rights have been restored in Ohio.

Second, Mitt's constant lying concerning his '5 point plan' wasn't bought by the electorate.

Third, the Rising Star of the Repuplican Party was voted off the American TV Show, 'Dancing With The Stars'.

Now, Bristol sez she's gonna concentrate on Politics, like her mommy.
 
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newatit2010

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Krayven Sumhead said:
Just wasn't a good day for the Romney Team and Republicans in general.

First, early voting rights have been restored in Ohio.

Second, Mitt's constant lying concerning his '5 point plan' wasn't bought by the electorate.

Third, the Rising Star of the Repuplican Party was voted off the American TV Show, 'Dancing With The Stars'.

Now, Bristol sez she's gonna concentrate on Politics, like her mommy.
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Talk about lies is gitmo closed.
 
rollinbud

rollinbud

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ChesusRice said:
I want to take advantage of romenys tax breaks on
-dividends
-capital gains
-interest income
-estate taxes
-yacht purchases
-private jet leases

I believe these tax cuts will make a difference in your average middle class family <-------------------------------------Sarcasm
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What a bunch of lies....
 
DonPepe

DonPepe

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lol if that was a bitch slapping, its exactly the kind of bitch slapping i would expect from a little bitch.

who am i kidding, i only watched the highlight reel =(
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ChesusRice said:
Ar15.com is doing the "hit this poll" as well on Msnbc
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For what it's worth, I saw the MSNBC "undecideds" focus group on Matthews. One thought Romney won, one thought Obama won, the others thought it was a tie. The interesting thing was when pressed, 75% of them described themselves as more likely to vote for Romney. That can't be what the administration was hoping for after last night.
 
nontheist

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MuyLocoNC said:
For what it's worth, I saw the MSNBC "undecideds" focus group on Matthews. One thought Romney won, one thought Obama won, the others thought it was a tie. The interesting thing was when pressed, 75% of them described themselves as more likely to vote for Romney. That can't be what the administration was hoping for after last night.
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So far almost all media (except msnbc surprise surprise) are showing people thought Romney dominated on the economy and taxes. What's this election about?
 
canndo

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MuyLocoNC said:
While I have to acknowledge a much better debate from the President tonight than he had at the first debate, that wasn't a very high bar to beat. As I figured, any better showing than the first would automatically be trumpeted as a victory. I thought both were strong, it was a great debate and I think the format was interesting if not a tad bit skewed in the selection of questions. But, that was a forgone conclusion, it is after all, my wife's alma mater and Romney really got as fair a shake as humanly possible in that zip code.

I don't expect us to agree on the victor this time. The last debate was so one-sided that our liberal friends didn't really have a choice but to concede. I think both sides heard what they wanted said and I think both men projected a strong figurehead for their parties.

I was at a close friend's house, we were watching with his wife. There was boisterous agreement after Romney and jeers and comments before, during and after the President spoke, as I picture the opposite most likely happening at the homes of others on this forum.

The question of course is undecideds. Did either do so much better as to swing the masses? Again, who you ask will determine the answer. The OP would obviously say Obama did, plenty on here will probably say Romney crushed him. Despite agreeing with Romney's positions, I thought they were both strong and I don't see it being a game changer in either direction.

The Dems can take heart that Obama woke up and took it to Romney. He came back quickly with retorts and was far more prepared for this debate. While I obviously don't agree with many of the President's positions, he made it very clear he does have a deep ideology that drives him. As usual, I found him affable and likable.

The Repubs can take heart as well, Romney was unshakable and reenforced his stature as a contender for the Presidency. He made a strong showing towards dispelling the twisting of his words about not campaigning to 47% of the voters into not caring about those 47%. To those looking at him without the burden of partisan lenses, you can tell he really does care. I don't think that genuine concern is easy to fake, it's even harder to dispel once it is observed and I think the undecideds did indeed see it in Romney tonight. He had a great many other moments, but I could gush for hours.

I couldn't be happier as I believe Romney is up by about 7 points right now. I don't buy that 8-9% oversampling of Democrats based on 2008 turnout, to be anywhere near what this year's election turnout will be.
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While I appreciate your level headed and reasonable review of the debate, I am curious about your take on Romney's 47 percent remark. there was no twisting of words. Had Romney stopped after he explained that 47 percent were unlikely to be moved to vote for him, you would be correct, but Romney went on. Could it be that you didn't hear that part? or are you purposefully ignoring it?


I noticed as well that you didn't mention anything about the "act of terror" fail on Romney's part. He swung and missed there.
 
canndo

canndo

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MuyLocoNC said:
For what it's worth, I saw the MSNBC "undecideds" focus group on Matthews. One thought Romney won, one thought Obama won, the others thought it was a tie. The interesting thing was when pressed, 75% of them described themselves as more likely to vote for Romney. That can't be what the administration was hoping for after last night.
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I get a little disturbed at those "undecided voters". They act either circumspect and prudent or sanctimonious. They are simply waiting for all the information to come in, they havn't made up their minds because they are more careful voters than the rest of us. They are judicious and reasonable nonpartisons above the partisan rabble, they are the reasonable ones.

Yet in the number of times I have seen them interviewed, they show a serious lack of knowlege. They are passive voters, willing to go by the ads they have seen mixed with a few headlines and the debate and have done not one bit of research on their own.

"I just don't have enough information yet" is simply bullshit, there is an abundance of information for either side.

Makes me pissed at them - the self satisfied, pseudo intellectual, lazy fucks. Do some reasearch and pick a side.
 
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