Military members of RIU..

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
What branch did you serve in?

When did you serve?

Do you feel it was worth it?

What did you learn while in the military?

Where do you think you would be today if you never joined?

How are the benefits after having served, as well as during?

Would you do it again?
 

desert dude

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What branch did you serve in?
Army

When did you serve?
1971 to 1974


Do you feel it was worth it?
I do.


What did you learn while in the military?
To be a man. To do my job and not be a slacker or whiner.


Where do you think you would be today if you never joined?
Hard to say. I went to college on the GI bill and got a degree in computer science and have made a fairly decent living. I would not have had the money to go to college without the GI bill.


How are the benefits after having served, as well as during?
During active duty, my highest monthly pay was about $400. It was not a lot, but it was enough.

After discharge, the GI bill was meager, but enough. They paid me $270 per month to cover tuition, fees, books and living expenses. I graduated with about $4,000 in student loans and paid those off in the first couple of years after college.


Would you do it again?
Absolutely.
 

Dr Kynes

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i feel the need to answer for my maternal grandppappy.

he was a pipefitter at a subamrine yard, after pearl harbour he tried to enlist in the navy submarine corps, but they said no, they needed him in the boatyard.

AFTER VJ day they fuckin drafted him.... into the army. he knew subs inside and out since he spent 12 years buildin em, but hey. why not. Go Army.

he went through basic, and got shipped off to okinanwa for 3 months standing guard duty, then they up and honorably discharged him and sent him back to the boatyard as if it never happened.



that story always makes me laugh
 

Carne Seca

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My dad was 4F due to a rodeo accident. His only brother, my uncle, was a sergeant in the Army and served during WWII, The Korean Conflict and the Viet Nam "police action". He had some stories to tell. The hair used to stand up on the back of my neck when he talked about it. One brother was in the Navy (medic) another a Marine. I thought about it but they didn't allow openly gay folks in the military back then.
 

TheMan13

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My dad was 4F due to a rodeo accident. His only brother, my uncle, was a sergeant in the Army and served during WWII, The Korean Conflict and the Viet Nam "police action". He had some stories to tell. The hair used to stand up on the back of my neck when he talked about it. One brother was in the Navy (medic) another a Marine. I thought about it but they didn't allow openly gay folks in the military back then.
Son your character would be an issue long before your sexual preference, I'm sure your brothers and uncle are proud!

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robert 14617

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marine corps , 1984 they taught me how to rebuild jet engines and service and inspect jet aircraft , this lead me to an A&P license eastern airlines , and to any aviation job out there now , without it i may have stayed if california and wound up as a sub contractor
 

GreatwhiteNorth

Global Moderator
Staff member
What branch did you serve in?
U.S. Coast Guard

When did you serve?
1977 - 2000

Do you feel it was worth it?
Absolutely - one of my best decisions.

What did you learn while in the military?
A solid work ethic and how to interact with others.

Where do you think you would be today if you never joined?
Probably sitting on my ass back in S Fla with my high school buddies.

How are the benefits after having served, as well as during?
Our VA system here is phenominal, so that is a giant plus. Bennies while active duty are few and far between.

Would you do it again?
In a heart beat, just let me snip off this pony tail & I'm ready !
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Is it hard to get in the coast guard?
It's more selective than the other branches. I spoke with a CG recruiter about it recently, he said there are a limited amount of spots available and the waiting list can be up to 17-24 months for some jobs, and 27 is the maximum age limit.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
What branch did you serve in?
U.S. Coast Guard

When did you serve?
1977 - 2000

Do you feel it was worth it?
Absolutely - one of my best decisions.

What did you learn while in the military?
A solid work ethic and how to interact with others.

Where do you think you would be today if you never joined?
Probably sitting on my ass back in S Fla with my high school buddies.

How are the benefits after having served, as well as during?
Our VA system here is phenominal, so that is a giant plus. Bennies while active duty are few and far between.

Would you do it again?
In a heart beat, just let me snip off this pony tail & I'm ready !
Could you tell me more about your experience? That's the branch I hope to join. Anything really..
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
Could you tell me more about your experience? That's the branch I hope to join. Anything really..
Condensing 24 years into a couple of sentences is not possible for me.
I waited 8 months to go to boot camp in Cape May NJ - at that time, basic was touted to be just shy of the USMC in the difficulty level however things have changed - training time outs, no obstacle course, radio's are even allowed in squad bays now for fuck sake.
My recruiter sold me with chick pix on various boats/cutters - I knew it was a ploy but in the back of my mind I was thinking "maybe, . .just maybe this is true."

Upon receiving my first set of orders (and not understanding all the acronyms/abbreviations) I was super stoked that I was being assigned to Japan !!
Turns out my first unit was a 12 month stint at an isolated Loran station on the Aleutian chain.
I didn't see that one coming but did it without complaint (Ok, that last part isn't exactly true) and I came through the other side of that a much better man.

After 16 weeks of advanced training (Machinery Technician) in Yorktown Va, I was sent to a 210' ship out of Florida.
Remember the Mariel Boat lift ? My ship was in the thick of that extended action & we participated in more rescues & life threatening situations that you ever heard about.
Sinking boats & lifeless bodies were the daily norm as was the Cuban torpedo "go fast's" and fighter jets overhead that harassed/threatened us constantly.
All in all I would not change a thing, however unpleasant some things were.
Keeping in mind that I've been retired 12 years now & some of my info is undoubtedly a bit dated - any specific questions ?
 

Padawanbater2

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How was basic?

What kind of shape were you in before compared to after?

Why did you decide to join the military?

What kind of training did you receive, weapons, swimming, life saving, medical, etc.?

What did your average day look like as a Machinery Tech?

Are there any significant differences that you noticed between civilians and military personnel, attitude, goals, intelligence, etc.?

What was your single best experience and your single worst experience while serving?

Did you do a lot of travelling?

What sort of living arrangements did you have, live on/off base, roommates, etc.?

Steady promotions?


Thanks GWN
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
How was basic?
Orchestrated hell !
Back then it was not only accepted, but promoted to treat recruits like trash & they did !
All for a purpose I see now - back then the screaming & ridicule only served to make me push myself harder.
Modern basic is more classroom time & less physical.

What kind of shape were you in before compared to after?
I was in much better than average shape when I enlisted, upon graduation veins in my shoulders easily stood out when doing another round of push-ups and I am still able to tick off 100 military push-ups, altho it takes me a bit more time now.;-)

Why did you decide to join the military?
A sense of honor & duty - my father was career Air Force & I felt as though I had a debit to society that I needed to pay.
Serving my country/fellow citizens was how I accomplished that.

What kind of training did you receive, weapons, swimming, life saving, medical, etc.?
All of the above - but heavy on drown proofing, underwater escape from trainers, damage control (fire/flooding).

What did your average day look like as a Machinery Tech?
I was deployed on ships for 14 of those years, so much daily life in that environment is a grind. When the ships are involved in immigrant/drug interdiction untold hours are spent "Digging trenches in the ocean" looking for contacts to investigate/board.

Are there any significant differences that you noticed between civilians and military personnel, attitude, goals, intelligence, etc.?
Honestly the military is full of people just like you & me - all different, all interesting.

What was your single best experience and your single worst experience while serving?
Worst? Pulling the floaters, some of whom have been out in the elements so long the stokes litter becomes a strainer.
Best? Cuban boat lift - I managed to get a little 4 year old boy breathing & crying again after he was pulled from a boat that sank. His mother was screaming at me whilst trying to pull him away as I was performing CPR.
Such a powerful scene I get choked up just rethinking it (30 years later !).

Did you do a lot of traveling?
I did get to see some fantastic places in the Caribbean and the South Pacific - Haiti, Dom Rep, Bahamas, Jamaica, Hawaii, etc....

What sort of living arrangements did you have, live on/off base, roommates, etc.?
You will undoubtedly have to live the barracks life for a while as a Non-rate/Junior petty officer. Don't let it get you down, respect/perks come with the job, but not all at once.

Steady promotions?
Promotions are driven by the individual - your first step is to try to get your recruiter to "Lock you into" an "A" school. If you don't get locked in, you may have to wait a bit for this first training but upon completion of that school providing you have the time in grade, you will be promoted to E-4. The sky is the limit from there and completely up to you - the process is one enrolls in a course, studies the shit out of the material & then you take the Service Wide Examination to compete with all others in your rank and rate. One caveat I would give is to pick your "Rate" carefully, as that will be what you will do for your remaining time.
Should you wish to advance even further (beyond enlisted) you can compete to become a Warrant officer, or even for a coveted spot in Officer Candidate School.
The limitations are up to the individual as to how far you go.

Good luck Pad, I wish you well.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Condensing 24 years into a couple of sentences is not possible for me.
I waited 8 months to go to boot camp in Cape May NJ - at that time, basic was touted to be just shy of the USMC in the difficulty level however things have changed - training time outs, no obstacle course, radio's are even allowed in squad bays now for fuck sake.
My recruiter sold me with chick pix on various boats/cutters - I knew it was a ploy but in the back of my mind I was thinking "maybe, . .just maybe this is true."

Upon receiving my first set of orders (and not understanding all the acronyms/abbreviations) I was super stoked that I was being assigned to Japan !!
Turns out my first unit was a 12 month stint at an isolated Loran station on the Aleutian chain.
I didn't see that one coming but did it without complaint (Ok, that last part isn't exactly true) and I came through the other side of that a much better man.

After 16 weeks of advanced training (Machinery Technician) in Yorktown Va, I was sent to a 210' ship out of Florida.
Remember the Mariel Boat lift ? My ship was in the thick of that extended action & we participated in more rescues & life threatening situations that you ever heard about.
Sinking boats & lifeless bodies were the daily norm as was the Cuban torpedo "go fast's" and fighter jets overhead that harassed/threatened us constantly.
All in all I would not change a thing, however unpleasant some things were.
Keeping in mind that I've been retired 12 years now & some of my info is undoubtedly a bit dated - any specific questions ?
I suspect you'd thoroughly enjoy The Vor Game by Lois McMaster Bujold. Half the book takes place as a green officer's first assignment ... to an Arctic island base. cn
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
It looks really promising and everything I've heard from people who've been in have nothing but good things to say about it. For me personally, the CG's mission is much more up my alley than the other branches.

I'd like to learn something I can keep with me my whole life and get paid doing it, the educational benefits after I get out are also really promising. There's no way I can afford college as it is right now without taking out a grip of loans.

The one thing I'm (barely) worried about is the current political atmosphere, a few different tensions around the world at the moment, but that's not really an issue. CG doesn't get deployed to crazy places unless it's necessary, not against getting deployed, just against killing innocent people.

I think overall it's a great decision that'll help make me the person I envision myself as. My current lifestyle doesn't permit that, and it's getting old fast. A civilian job doesn't seem like shit, honestly, if I were to work some random job for 5-10 years, I'd feel like I wasted my life.. This type of work seems like you're actually doing something with yourself..
 

TheMan13

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Although a decade long vet myself, let me thank each of you personally for your honorable service for this land I so enjoy!

Thanks again guys,
TheMan13

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desert dude

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It looks really promising and everything I've heard from people who've been in have nothing but good things to say about it. For me personally, the CG's mission is much more up my alley than the other branches.

I'd like to learn something I can keep with me my whole life and get paid doing it, the educational benefits after I get out are also really promising. There's no way I can afford college as it is right now without taking out a grip of loans.

The one thing I'm (barely) worried about is the current political atmosphere, a few different tensions around the world at the moment, but that's not really an issue. CG doesn't get deployed to crazy places unless it's necessary, not against getting deployed, just against killing innocent people.

I think overall it's a great decision that'll help make me the person I envision myself as. My current lifestyle doesn't permit that, and it's getting old fast. A civilian job doesn't seem like shit, honestly, if I were to work some random job for 5-10 years, I'd feel like I wasted my life.. This type of work seems like you're actually doing something with yourself..

It's late and I am tired so I won't write much but I agree with you. I know several retired coasties and I agree, it does look like a great job! I don't regret my time in the army but if I had it to do over again I think I would go coast guard as well. I wish you luck in your endeavors.
 
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