ri laws per grow site

HghFlyrJD1

Active Member
It does have loop holes sort of speak but that doesnt hold them back from making the arrest. Which is court fees/ lawyer fees/ time in the aci/ loss of funds and loss of alive plants which will be dead when you get them.

Dont they know that 5oz max is such a small amount to last for 5 patients when quickest harvest is about 2 months apart. 5oz wont last 5 patients for 2 months at all. So dumb. It take longer than 2 months when your cuttings can only have roots to start your veg cause counted towards your 12 veg count.
1 Harvested Plant "MIGHT"put me over the 5oz limit haha
 

cmantis

Member
The reference is the second link you posted on page one. Look at subsections 1.16 page 2 and 2.8.4 on page 4. http://sos.ri.gov/documents/archives/regdocs/released/pdf/DOH/5923.pdf. May be old, I think the document has a date of 2006.

1.16 "Seedling" means a marijuana plant with no observable flowers or buds.

2.8.1 A registered primary caregiver may possesses an amount of marijuana which does not exceed twelve (12) mature marijuana plants and two and one-half (2.5) ounces of usable marijuana for each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the Department's registration process established pursuant to these Regulations.

2.8.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of §2.8.1 of these Regulations, no primary caregiver other than a compassion center shall possess an amount of marijuana in excess of twenty-four (24) mature marijuana plants and five (5) ounces of usable marijuana for qualifying patients to whom he or she is connected through the Department's registration process established pursuant to these Regulations.

2.8.3 A registered qualifying patient may possesses an amount of marijuana which does not exceed twelve (12) mature marijuana plants and two and one-half (2.5) ounces of usable marijuana.

2.8.4 Registered primary caregivers and registered qualifying patients shall be allowed to possess a reasonable amount of unusable marijuana, including up to twelve (12) seedlings, which shall not be counted toward the limits established in §§2.8.1 and 2.8.3 of these Regulations.
I know this has been asked before and sort of answered but does anyone know conclusively if as patient and caregiver you can grow as each? In other words can you have 12/24 as caregiver with two patients and another 12/12 for personal?
 

Weedasaurus

Well-Known Member
no, not unless you are a patient and a caregiver as I understand it. But I was wondering, what if you have 2 patients, can you have 12/24, and then each of your patients have they're own 12/12 as well?

Also, i think that it may be wiser to setup a multistaged perpetual grow. a harvest atleast every month.
So if your max is 12 mature, then 4 plants harvested every month would help to keep you within usable medicine limits. almost seems like thats what the law is implying.

so basically each month you would harvest 4 plants, put 4 plants from veg into flower, and plant 4 new seeds.

I was also wondering. the law states that a plant in veg is one that doesn't show bud sites. well for atleast 1-2 weeks the plant in flower wouldn't show bud sites.

so with a multistaged perp grow, you would have 4 plants for 2 weeks of each month in flower that may be claimed as plants in veg by the police because they don't show buds.

this bill looks as if it was just slaped together by people who don't understand growing and just wanted to push it through with plans on improving it later. well its been many years and it hasn't been improved on.

this puts people who are sick and those helping those who are sick at great risk of prosecution by police officers with a sickening agenda.
 

Weedasaurus

Well-Known Member
if its not directly stated in the law, then its open to interpretation by the police, ultimately up to they're discretion to arrest you. so basically you are at risk of prosecution, but i have heard of people doing it.

If anything you should keep the 2 grows in seperate rooms and labeled accordingly
 

NoBarriers

Well-Known Member
What ever address is used on the form is the ONLY address that the caregiver is legal to grow at.
That is not true. There is no basis in the law for that statement. Based on section 7 of the law with regards to confidentiality names and addresses are kept confidential by the Department of Health. The Department of Health can only confirm the number and whether it's active or not therefore the police cannot be told where the address is based on this. A patient and caregiver are also protected under HIPAA act in regards to the release of information including addresses.

7.1 Applications and supporting information submitted by qualifying patients, including information regarding their primary caregivers and practitioners, are confidential and protected under the federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) of 1996, as amended.

7.3 The Department shall verify to law enforcement personnel whether a registry identification card is valid solely by confirming the random registry identification number.


A patient also does not need an address based on:
3.1.3 Name, address, and date of birth of the qualifying patient. If the qualifying patient is homeless, no address is required

According to these statutes there is no way to confirm what address you have at the Department of Health. Therefore there's no way for you to be charged with growing at different location if it was even illegal to grow at a different location, which it's not according to the law.

Pretty much everything you said about addresses and being on leases is not true. It is based on hearsay not law. This is a prime example of the misinformation being spread about this law.
 

ricky6991

Well-Known Member
Just wish they were more clear on if its illegal to grow at same address as another caregiver as long as they were seperate rooms and labeled, idk what the issue would be.
 

ricky6991

Well-Known Member
So for a patient it doesn't matter but caregiver it does?
Im sure it same for caregiver an patient need to be connected to the address somehow, lease or current house your living in. Doubt you can just grow inside another persons house an they get raided an they not get in trouble just cause your card is there.
 

Franklinstein

Active Member
Yeah, the ability to grow *for* someone is, by definition, the caregiver relationship. If you live there, it can be your grow. If not, it has to belong to a caregiver.
 
Actually, the rumor regarding children in the house has truth to it. Although it may be legal for you to grow, it is still considered child abuse to manufacture a controlled substance with a child in the house, regardless of if its legal for you to grow it or not. The laws pertaining to MMJ do not tell you everything you need to know, there are many grey areas. If you have children and are growing, I highly suggest you grow in a separate dwelling (a detached garage), if this is impossible, grow in a locked room that has a legal firewall.
 

BrewsNBuds

Active Member
They didn't say anything about this being a medical grow. And its a private commercial space so what difference does it make how close to a school it is? It wasn't a dispensary, there's no storefront. If you live in a house across the street from a school and you're a patient with 12 plants, are you a threat to the school children?

Another great piece of reporting. Hey Maura, when the phone doesn't ring, you'll know its Fox calling about that big job in NYC.
 

ricky6991

Well-Known Member
Hahahahahaha... that guys a dickhead. Glad he got arrested... i have rented a garage from him inside that building. That place is a mill. Its retarded huge and empty. My 3rd week being there after spending money doing electric and painting cement floors for easy oil cleanup and moving tools there ect. Fire marshals came in an kicked me and every tenant out of building cause landlord renting space was told not to let any persons i until the inspection of entire place was complete. Turns out every where in building had no working sprinklers or fire alarms connected to the department. I lost 5k in money an guy told me it wasnt his problem afterwards... shouldve sued him but needed me sequrity deposit back to make a quick move to another locations as i only had 24hr notice to pack up.

Have to say though. Completely suprised he got caught. That place is huge outside and inside. 144 plants could have been done easily and hidden easily.
 

30yrgrow

Member
Hahahahahaha... that guys a dickhead. Glad he got arrested... i have rented a garage from him inside that building. That place is a mill. Its retarded huge and empty. My 3rd week being there after spending money doing electric and painting cement floors for easy oil cleanup and moving tools there ect. Fire marshals came in an kicked me and every tenant out of building cause landlord renting space was told not to let any persons i until the inspection of entire place was complete. Turns out every where in building had no working sprinklers or fire alarms connected to the department. I lost 5k in money an guy told me it wasnt his problem afterwards... shouldve sued him but needed me sequrity deposit back to make a quick move to another locations as i only had 24hr notice to pack up.

Have to say though. Completely suprised he got caught. That place is huge outside and inside. 144 plants could have been done easily and hidden easily.
Why am i not surprised that you have a connection to this.
 
Take no chances of growing in an area where children are. If DCYF is notified they are obligated to investigate and make a ruling. Parents can be found neglectful and DCYC falls under the HEALTH dept and if they want to make trouble they will. Again this speaks to being careful who is aware of your registry status or caregiver status.
 

ricky6991

Well-Known Member
Why am i not surprised that you have a connection to this.
No connection at all actually... if your from rhode island than you would know you can go across state in 45minutes. I have lived in many cities and rented garages in many cities to work close to home. He rented space for cheap for large sqft. Anyone in same situation would have rented it also. But i know you like to add your worthless and uneducated responses to everything.

I rented space 3 yrs ago there... grow up
 
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