Jane Roe of ‘Roe v Wade’ Airs Anti-Obama Ad in Florida

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
The scientifically illiterate have no business speaking on subjects they know nothing about.

Simple as that.

Crazy gonna crazy.
 

FlowerPower!

New Member
God damn those are graphic pics of dead, mangled babies. What a loss


I don't see how Obama had anything to do with her case
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
You just disqualified yourself dumbfuck! LOL

Abortion doesn't equal murder in any sense of the word. Scientifically literate people understand this, ignorant religious folk don't.

I find it ironic and pretty funny you utilize such tactics as the woman in this story in an attempt to elicit an emotional reaction in order to subvert the rational one.

Back to the playground, kid. You don't belong in big boy discussions.
 

budlover13

King Tut

Abortion doesn't equal murder in any sense of the word. Scientifically literate people understand this, ignorant religious folk don't.

I find it ironic and pretty funny you utilize such tactics as the woman in this story in an attempt to elicit an emotional reaction in order to subvert the rational one.

Back to the playground, kid. You don't belong in big boy discussions.
IMO, abortion IS murder. At least when dealing with my ex who wanted to abort our son. i simply told her, "Abort him, i abort you."
 

FlowerPower!

New Member
God dammnit! I don't like what I'm hearing about this abortion method

Every fucking democrat @ 3:11?

When are we going to fix are abortion law?
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
IMO, abortion IS murder. At least when dealing with my ex who wanted to abort our son. i simply told her, "Abort him, i abort you."
No question many people hold this same opinion, but medically and scientifically, as well as legally speaking, it's not murder.

Abortion is no more murder than masturbation is. Nobody has the right to legislate 'potential' life.
 

FreedomWorks

Well-Known Member
God dammnit! I don't like what I'm hearing about this abortion method

Every fucking democrat @ 3:11?

When are we going to fix are abortion law?

I can honestly tell you for sure that Mitt Romney will put a stop to it. But thats only if he gets voted into office.
 

budlover13

King Tut
No question many people hold this same opinion, but medically and scientifically, as well as legally speaking, it's not murder.

Abortion is no more murder than masturbation is. Nobody has the right to legislate 'potential' life.
There was no legislation involved in saving my son's life. It became a choice for her.
 

budlover13

King Tut
When it comes down to women not carrying MY child, the choice lies with her and her man. When i helped create said child, it's between me and her.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Interesting what a little bit of research does..

CBN Correspondent David Brody: Real quick, the born alive infant protection act. I gotta tell you that’s the one thing I get a lot of emails about and it’s just not just from Evangelicals, it about Catholics, Protestants, main – they’re trying to understand it because there was some literature put out by the National Right to Life Committee. And they’re basically saying they felt like you misrepresented your position on that bill.

Obama: Let me clarify this right now.

Brody: Because it’s getting a lot of play.

Obama: Well and because they have not been telling the truth. And I hate to say that people are lying, but here’s a situation where folks are lying. I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported – which was to say – that you should provide assistance to any infant that was born – even if it was as a consequence of an induced abortion. That was not the bill that was presented at the state level. What that bill also was doing was trying to undermine Roe vs. Wade.

NRLC posted documents – which are so far undisputed – showing that Amendment 001 was adopted in committee and added the following text: "Nothing in this Section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this Section." That wording matches exactly the comparable provision in the federal law.

Obama campaign statement, June 30: Illinois And Federal Born Alive Infant Protection Acts Did Not Include Exactly The Same Language. The Illinois legislation read, "A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law." The Born Alive Infant Protections Act read, "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being ‘born alive’ as defined in this section." [SB 1082, Held in Health and Human Services, 3/13/03; Session Sine Die, 1/11/05; BAIPA, Public Law 107-207]

Obama, Senate floor, 2002: [A]dding a – an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion. … I think it’s important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births.

Obama, Senate floor, 2001: Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a – a child, a nine-month-old – child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it – it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.

Obama’s critics are free to speculate on his motives for voting against the bills, and postulate a lack of concern for babies’ welfare. But his stated reasons for opposing "born-alive" bills have to do with preserving abortion rights, a position he is known to support and has never hidden.

:clap:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
There was no legislation involved in saving my son's life. It became a choice for her.
As well it should be and remain.

When it comes down to women not carrying MY child, the choice lies with her and her man. When i helped create said child, it's between me and her.
This is something that should have probably been discussed before she became pregnant. The bottom line is, it's her body, it's ultimately her choice.

Do you appreciate politicians and passing laws on what you are legally allowed to do with your own body?
 

budlover13

King Tut
As well it should be and remain.



This is something that should have probably been discussed before she became pregnant. The bottom line is, it's her body, it's ultimately her choice.

Do you appreciate politicians and passing laws on what you are legally allowed to do with your own body?
The decision to not get pregnant had been made. She got pregnant after a strong course of antibiotics counter-acted the pill.

She made her choice when she allowed me in her. We had discussed accidental pregnancy in the past and she flip-flopped when faced with reality. Her body, OUR child/fetus. In the end, all that matters is that she came to see my POV as being in her best interest.
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
It's only not murder because its legal so the definition of murder cannot be applied. You still have to kill it.
 
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