Do you flush? Do you kill the lights prior to harvest?

[k0ijn]

A lot depends on who is growing it. Perhaps they know something about growing weed you don't. It is possible.


I guess I will always be learning from others and asking folks I respect for advice and opinions.
I'm not at your super high level it seems, so I may never be saying the stuff you do (sucks to be me)... but you keep doing what you're doing.
I don't see this as an argument (like you do) I see it as a few growers having some dialog about methods and posting opinions.


Who brought that name into the argu.. I mean discussion?

Bazinga!

I get your point but I think Huel meant using other peoples opinions as assists to your own argumentation.

I don't think Huel uses my words and opinions as arguments or as supporting arguments to his own. I think he's capable of forming his own position.
Saying he agrees with me on something is not the same as using my theories and arguments in a discussion.

 

[Rumple]

I think his own words says it all.

Solid Bazinga!

 

[Rumple]

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Are you getting scrollbars?

 

[k0ijn]

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Are you getting scrollbars?

What? I have a scroll bar in the normal location (right side of browser window).

 

[mr. green thumb 01]

Can you provide a link to this information.?

Arjan grows some of the best pot on earth and I would like to copy what he does so i can get the best results possible (advice from the best grower might be better than reading a book on botany if you ask me).
But I want to read his words for myself.

I was doing a youtube search of Arjan. He has a lot of videos on there. The one I was watching was this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5VsRP_YwX4
At 4:30 they just briefly say "we flush our medium"

I think its funny people still argue but its whatever Arjan is one of the best growers in the world. Id listen to him before k0ijn and SimonD.

Sorry K0ijn and SimonD, no time to play lately.

 

[SimonD]

Once again great post.. And your right! for the commercial grrower with looks and smell it will sell all the same, but for the connoisseur grower like myself the flush is a must.

I have a little time today to read the forum, and this comment struck a chord. In essence, the same strain can bring in $3,000 per pound or almost $5,000 per pound. Same strain. Same time devoted to the grow. Same expense and investment, and the same risk. The difference being the (physical) quality of the bud, itself, the smell, taste, and smoothness of the smoke. Say it's a 5lb run. We're talking about $10,000 difference!! There's an enormous financial incentive to produce high quality product. Pretty much everyone tries. As folks can see by the availability in their respective areas, few actually succeed.

Simon

 

[akula]

I was doing a youtube search of Arjan. He has a lot of videos on there. The one I was watching was this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5VsRP_YwX4
At 4:30 they just briefly say "we flush our medium"

I think its funny people still argue but its whatever Arjan is one of the best growers in the world. Id listen to him before k0ijn and SimonD.

Sorry K0ijn and SimonD, no time to play lately.

I really do not know if you thought nobody would watch the video you posted, or really didn't comprehend what they said at all. Either way posting this is counter to your argument that GHS and Arjan do a pre-harvest flush and taking that quote completely out of context probably shows how disingenuous you are willing to be to simply "win" this argument.

Here is the full quote in context:

This final week of flowering we keep it on a 5.5 PH and a lower 1.4/1.5 EC schedule. We still flush our medium a lot....

That EC level for a plant that big is probably roughly 3/4-2/3 of their peak TDS during flowering for that plant. So they are obviously stepping down their peak flowering TDS. Since they also mentioning maintaining 5.5PH I assume they are using an inert medium, like coco coir mix. It is very common for regular flushes (sometimes as much as weekly), especially given the high TDS schedule they are obviously using. Since I also grow in coco I fully recognize a "medium flush" as opposed to a "pre-harvest flush". Maybe you are unaware of the terminology and how this is not a video that strengthens your position. But IMO, it doesn't weaken it either. I would never base my personal grow on any marketing video anyways. But it does possibly call into question your integrity however.

 

[akula]

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Are you getting scrollbars?

Did you expand on a picture associated posted on this domain? If you did you may need to Ctrl- to get it back to "normal" size. Only thing I can think of.

 

[k0ijn]

I really do not know if you thought nobody would watch the video you posted, or really didn't comprehend what they said at all. Either way posting this is counter to your argument that GHS and Arjan do a pre-harvest flush and taking that quote completely out of context probably shows how disingenuous you are willing to be to simply "win" this argument.

Here is the full quote in context:



That EC level for a plant that big is probably roughly 3/4-2/3 of their peak TDS during flowering for that plant. So they are obviously stepping down their peak flowering TDS. Since they also mentioning maintaining 5.5PH I assume they are using an inert medium, like coco coir mix. It is very common for regular flushes (sometimes as much as weekly), especially given the high TDS schedule they are obviously using. Since I also grow in coco I fully recognize a "medium flush" as opposed to a "pre-harvest flush". Maybe you are unaware of the terminology and how this is not a video that strengthens your position. But IMO, it doesn't weaken it either. I would never base my personal grow on any marketing video anyways. But it does possibly call into question your integrity however.

The green thumb dude doesn't even understand what "professional opinion" means.
When I posted that once he thought I meant I was saying I am a professional grower (whatever the hell that means).

I doubt it he has ever quoted anything correctly here or that he has read any publication/scientific book.
He can't even get through a post on a forum.
Just basing it off the past few post of his I've seen it's pretty clear to see he has no integrity.

 

[bluntmassa1]

I was doing a youtube search of Arjan. He has a lot of videos on there. The one I was watching was this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5VsRP_YwX4
At 4:30 they just briefly say "we flush our medium"

I think its funny people still argue but its whatever Arjan is one of the best growers in the world. Id listen to him before k0ijn and SimonD.

Sorry K0ijn and SimonD, no time to play lately.

why don't you try not flushing one plant instead of taking arjan's word for it then you will know for sure which is better. also how do organic growers flush their plants? organic marijuana is sopouse to be the best tasting but when your growing in an organic medium the nutrients are always their no matter how much you flush your plants.
I haven't actually seen a grow from K0ijn but simonD does pretty damn good I'm sure they both have tried flushing yet they don't flush that to me is enough to try it out atleast. unless you have tried it out yourself it makes no sense to argue cause you really have no idea what your talking about. I can sit here and say jorge cervantes and soma say to flush but soma uses an organic medium which defeats the pourpose of flushing.

 

[HeartlandHank]

I was doing a youtube search of Arjan. He has a lot of videos on there. The one I was watching was this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5VsRP_YwX4
At 4:30 they just briefly say "we flush our medium"

I think its funny people still argue but its whatever Arjan is one of the best growers in the world. Id listen to him before k0ijn and SimonD.

Sorry K0ijn and SimonD, no time to play lately.

Arjan is one of the best growers in the world? Based off of what?

I agree with Bluntmassa... try out a side by side test. That will answer the question for YOU.

Even then, someone else growing in a different way might find that there is a different answer for them.

 

[k0ijn]

why don't you try not flushing one plant instead of taking arjan's word for it then you will know for sure which is better. also how do organic growers flush their plants? organic marijuana is sopouse to be the best tasting but when your growing in an organic medium the nutrients are always their no matter how much you flush your plants.
I haven't actually seen a grow from K0ijn but simonD does pretty damn good I'm sure they both have tried flushing yet they don't flush that to me is enough to try it out atleast. unless you have tried it out yourself it makes no sense to argue cause you really have no idea what your talking about. I can sit here and say jorge cervantes and soma say to flush but soma uses an organic medium which defeats the pourpose of flushing.

I have posted quite a few pictures.
And some videos.

Ask and you shall receive.

These are not from my current grow, one is a Dragon Haze (purple-ish) the other a regular Haze:

 

[MrMeanGreen]

No science, just a taste test....... Ok so it was rigged but never the less. I invited 2 friends who do partake in the fine art of flushing. They are getting on a bit (mid 40's) and have been doing it their way for time, resistant to change and even struggle with a smart phone. I prestented them with 2 buds claiming one was flushed and one was not when in fact neither were flushed, one was litterally 7-8 days post chop and the other was from my personal and had been curing for a month. Rightly so they spotted the difference and chose the cured bud. Even to this day they refuse to accept that the cured bud was not flushed and they continue with their unbreakable routine. Each to their own, the sun will continue to rise and set at the end of the day.