Is it possible to transplant from Coco Coir into Soil?

dante.

dante.

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Haha, yeah man. I just wanted you to look at that one cause the spotting is almost identical.

There's only one plant that is having the issues. She is my oldest plant and the other ones are looking fine from what I can see. There doesn't seem to be any stunted growth, just some yellowing and spotting. I also included the pics of the nutes. lol, looking forward to your reply.

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dante.

dante.

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grorite said:
whats you ph dont know if thats has been asked yet
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My feeding/watering pH is 5.8-6.0, i check it every time. I took 1 part of the coco (mixed it with 3 parts distilled water) from the root zone last week and the pH of that mix was 6.0.

I re calibrated my meter about a week and a half ago because i thought it was incorrect and it's been spot on ever since (I test with solution #7).
 
dante.

dante.

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grorite said:
dosent look like they can breath in that no perlite?
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That has crossed my mind. I added a slight amount of perlite to the lower layers, but the coco on top doesn't have much in it. You think i should dig it up and add some? I transplanted it from a peat moss pot about a week or so ago. It's gown alot since then.
 
dante.

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That's what the guy said at the hydro shop, he calibrated/tested the meter and certified that i was good to go. Trust me I watch my pH like a hawk. That's the #1 reason (in my opinion) why things get fucked up, other than nutrient burn.

But i'm still a newbie, so i got much more learning to do.
 
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imchucky666

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dante. said:
My feeding/watering pH is 5.8-6.0, i check it every time. I took 1 part of the coco (mixed it with 3 parts distilled water) from the root zone last week and the pH of that mix was 6.0.

I re calibrated my meter about a week and a half ago because i thought it was incorrect and it's been spot on ever since (I test with solution #7).
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OK, I'm gonna take a shot here, first thing I noticed you said was distilled water.
If you check out a few threads, they will mostly say they don't care for distilled because it is lacking in a lot of things.
Next question....... Is there a reason you can't use tap water?
Also, do you check your PH after adding nutes when you feed?
And lastly, now that you are in soil, 5.8-6.0 is too low for soil.
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Jeffdogg

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The plant is small, and the symptoms are kinda faint. It is possible by the looks of the leaves that it might be

ZINC (Zn) White areas form at leaf tips and between veins. Occurs in alkaline soils.

Keep in mind that it just might not be 1 problem, cause there is also spots and a leaf tip looks a lil burnt. Could be a lockout cause the plant is a lil light as well meaning its not getting enough N too.

Using tap water does help add trace elements that can provent some of these things, like chucky said stay away from distilled water. Tap is fine as long as the PPM isn't like over 400 (over 500 isnt good for humans)

If you didnt flush yet i'd suggest using at least 2 gallons PH'd water, if the runoff water comes out real dark there could be a small buildup happening
 
dante.

dante.

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Jeffdogg said:
The plant is small, and the symptoms are kinda faint. It is possible by the looks of the leaves that it might be

ZINC (Zn) White areas form at leaf tips and between veins. Occurs in alkaline soils.

Keep in mind that it just might not be 1 problem, cause there is also spots and a leaf tip looks a lil burnt. Could be a lockout cause the plant is a lil light as well meaning its not getting enough N too.

Using tap water does help add trace elements that can provent some of these things, like chucky said stay away from distilled water. Tap is fine as long as the PPM isn't like over 400 (over 500 isnt good for humans)

If you didnt flush yet i'd suggest using at least 2 gallons PH'd water, if the runoff water comes out real dark there could be a small buildup happening
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Thanks chucky and jeff, this is really good advice. I have been using distilled water on them ever since i germinated them, I have had many seedlings die in the process. I have not transplanted them into any soil yet so it's still just straight coco coir. I have kept my ph consistent as possible, but iwi ll start using tap water. I will flush with that and then see what happens.
 
dante.

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Jeffdogg said:
What is your germination method?
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Paper towel between two paper plates on top of a heating pad. They pop properly and root into the medium i plant them in, but i believe they died cause i was using the distilled water without the trace elements. Most of them died due to stem breakage.

I basically used the distilled because i thought that it would be cleaner than tap, i didn't think about trace elements.
 
Jeffdogg

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dante. said:
Paper towel between two paper plates on top of a heating pad. They pop properly and root into the medium i plant them in, but i believe they died cause i was using the distilled water without the trace elements. Most of them died due to stem breakage.

I basically used the distilled because i thought that it would be cleaner than tap, i didn't think about trace elements.
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I started out with a heating pad, had a bunch of failures. I take 2 paper towels soak then in ph'd water and place on the plate. Then take the seeds and set them on the paper towel, then put 1 more folded paper towl on top and let it absorb some of the bottom paper towls water, if needed ill add a lil more water. After then I take plastic wrap and place it over the plate sealing it and i poke a few small hole so it can breathe. Then I toss it in a dresser drawer. Pretty much had 100% success rate after that and always germinated that way. You also have to be careful with the paper towels some companies will bleach them to make them white like that. Bleach no good! Shop towels dont get bleached and are a good substitute.
 
dante.

dante.

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Jeffdogg said:
I started out with a heating pad, had a bunch of failures. I take 2 paper towels soak then in ph'd water and place on the plate. Then take the seeds and set them on the paper towel, then put 1 more folded paper towl on top and let it absorb some of the bottom paper towls water, if needed ill add a lil more water. After then I take plastic wrap and place it over the plate sealing it and i poke a few small hole so it can breathe. Then I toss it in a dresser drawer. Pretty much had 100% success rate after that and always germinated that way. You also have to be careful with the paper towels some companies will bleach them to make them white like that. Bleach no good! Shop towels dont get bleached and are a good substitute.
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I'm definitely gonna try that next time. I have about 95% pop rate. My heating pad is the top of my grow box, lol. I seem to start having problems with they're about a week to two weeks old.

So if my run off is dark than i have a build up? Because my run off has always been a darker brown with this coco.
 
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imchucky666

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OK, like Jeff mentioned, it might be not picking up calcium, since you're between 5.8 and 6.0
But stay with your hydro PH until you get them into the soil.
 
Jeffdogg

Jeffdogg

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Not all the time, but if its not flushed often it can build up. I'd prob flush every 2 weeks maybe less till you get the hang of it. Coco can be finicky, its a very good growing medium but can be a pain in the butt when first using it.
 
dante.

dante.

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Jeffdogg said:
Not all the time, but if its not flushed often it can build up. I'd prob flush every 2 weeks maybe less till you get the hang of it. Coco can be finicky, its a very good growing medium but can be a pain in the butt when first using it.
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That is exaclty what I'm finding. I'm following the schedule that came with the nutes and it seems to be causing issues with the medium.
 
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