Another feature of electric cars!!

[cannabineer]

Nanotechonology has the answers for battery storage
No it wont get cheap anytime soon
But then again our 55 inch flat screen cost 10000 10 years ago
and was just over a thousand when we bought it 2 years ago

So far, no. Imo the problem is a fundamental one: energy density. An energy density that becomes useful for driving a car beyond the tiny commutes for which it is now designed ... would have a consequence when the battery is shorted ... that involves plasma effects. Booooom. cn

 

[tumorhead]

My in-laws bought a nissan leaf, they're the type of people that also buy whatever the newest apple product is each time they release anything. But shit they have money so whatever but I think a hybrid would have been much better.

They don't have to pay to charge it, there are free charging stations around town you can plug into, dunno who pays for the electricity at them. But even not paying for fuel it's a really expensive ride. 48 cells in the battery, you can replace individual cells but they are expensive. The batteries are also worth some thousands of dollars when they're not strong enough to use in the car anymore, so there is some trade in value but it's still ridiculously expensive...

 

[Dr Kynes]

Nanotechonology has the answers for battery storage
No it wont get cheap anytime soon
But then again our 55 inch flat screen cost 10000 10 years ago
and was just over a thousand when we bought it 2 years ago

the last big electric storage news i heard was a micro-organism created spongiform of excreted gold and something super secret that was alleged to be able to hold like 6x more juice per ounce than lithium ion without the heat or the short burnout. i aint heard shit about it since one article back in like 2000. twer in scientific american, the issue with the hot microbiologist, and discussion of gravity leaking through the Brane into the Nth dimension.

 

[ChesusRice]

So far, no. Imo the problem is a fundamental one: energy density. An energy density that becomes useful for driving a car beyond the tiny commutes for which it is now designed ... would have a consequence when the battery is shorted ... that involves plasma effects. Booooom. cn

Stanford researchers have found a way to use silicon nanowires to reinvent the rechargeable lithium-ion batteries that power laptops, iPods, video cameras, cell phones, and countless other devices.
The new technology, developed through research led by Yi Cui, assistant professor of materials science and engineering, produces 10 times the amount of electricity of existing lithium-ion, known as Li-ion, batteries. A laptop that now runs on battery for two hours could operate for 20 hours, a boon to ocean-hopping business travelers.
"It's not a small improvement," Cui said. "It's a revolutionary development

 

[RyanTheRhino]

You know what's awesome about gas fueled cars? The ones the retail anywhere from 17,000 to 500,000k?

Well they have another super feature. They can catch on fire and explode if you're pumping gas and the car is still running.

God Bless Big Oil and fossil fuel energy!

how do you suppose they create the electricity used by electric cars.

 

[ChesusRice]

Lithium-ion Batteries and Nanotechnology for Electric Vehicles PartnershipAbout This Project|Publications|Partners

This partnership was led by EPA's Design for the Environment (DfE) Program, in the Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics, and the National Risk Management Research Laboratory, in EPA's Office of Research and Development.
The partnership conducted a screening-level life-cycle assessment (LCA) of currently manufactured lithium-ion (Li-ion) battery technologies for electric vehicles, and a next generation battery component (anode) that uses single-walled carbon nanotube (SWCNT) technology.
A quantitative environmental LCA of Li-ion batteries was conducted using primary data from both battery manufacturers and recyclers--and the nanotechnology anode currently being researched for next-generation batteries.
This type of study had not been previously conducted, and was needed to help grow the advanced-vehicle battery industry in a more environmentally responsible and efficient way. The LCA results are expected to mitigate current and future impacts and risks by helping battery manufacturers and suppliers identify which materials and processes are likely to pose the greatest impacts or potential risks to public health or the environment throughout the life cycle of their products. The draft study identifies opportunities for environmental improvement, and can inform design changes that will result in the use of less toxic materials and reduced overall environmental impacts, and increased energy efficiency.

 

[ChesusRice]

Researchers say their refinements insilicon-based lithium-ion technology could lead to a high-capacity, long-lived and low-cost anode material for next-generation rechargeable lithium batteries.

The team reports on the creation of a silicon-based anode, the negative electrode of a battery, that easily achieves 600 charge-discharge cycles at 1,000 milliamp hours per gram (mAh/g). This is a significant improvement over the 350 mAh/g capacity of current graphite anodes, which puts it squarely in the realm of next-generation battery technology competing to lower the cost and extend the range of electric vehicles. The new work through the long-running Lockheed Martin Advanced Nanotechnology Center of Excellence at Rice (LANCER) is the next and biggest logical step since the partners began investigating batteries four years ago.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Doc,
Zero point energy is where it's at!

 

[RyanTheRhino]

So far, no. Imo the problem is a fundamental one: energy density. An energy density that becomes useful for driving a car beyond the tiny commutes for which it is now designed ... would have a consequence when the battery is shorted ... that involves plasma effects. Booooom. cn

particle physicists are still studying the behavior of mass and energy at the subatomic levels. They seem to find new things all the time so there could be hope.

 

[cannabineer]

Doc,
Zero point energy is where it's at!

That would be the dream. Until we draw soooo much from the Universe's underside that we're faced with Cosmic Warming. cn

 

[cannabineer]

Atomic physicists are still studying the behavior of mass and energy at the subatomic levels. They seem to find new things all the time so there could be hope.

True. But "there could be hope" is engineerese for "not in my lifetime", I have found. cn

 

[tumorhead]

how do you suppose they create the electricity used by electric cars.

In 2011, Washington was the leading producer of electricity from hydroelectric sources and produced 29 percent of the Nation's net electricity generation. http://www.eia.gov/beta/state/?sid=wa

Need more dams or more WA states.

Also this shit has been around for 100 years: Guy said it was so successful in 1923 he was going to make 11 more. Wonder what happened to him...

 

[RyanTheRhino]

But wouldn't we have fusion before we reach that critical point of energy density

 

[RyanTheRhino]

Need more dams or more WA states.

Also this shit has been around for 100 years: View attachment 2395984 Guy said it was so successful in 1923 he was going to make 11 more. Wonder what happened to him...

how do you suppose we make steel for all these windmills?

 

[NoDrama]

There is no point in arguing, The government is dead set AGAINST us having fuel efficient or electric cars. You don't really think governments are going to give up their lucrative gasoline taxes do you? Electric cars don't pay that tax and if every car is super fuel efficient they earn alot less in taxes. 30 years ago there were gas cars that got 55 MPG and now there are fossil fueled cars that can get 80MPG but they aren't even allowed to be sold in USA due to GOVERNMENT restrictions. They produce 10% more emmissions than a similar gasoline car, but hey NW they go 4 times as far meaning they actually product much less pollution, nope don't let that little snag in the EPA logic get ya down. They know what is best for their own pocketbooks, they could give a shit less that you have to pay through the nose for gas.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Doc,
Zero point energy is where it's at!

i keep mine under my Planck's Constant.

it's the Universe's crawlspace full of disused luggage, old car parts and dead hookers.