FIRST GROW - could use advice

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amcutem

Member
Hi fellas.

I have a 20 gallon dwc with drip system on a timer. I have bought almost all of the GH stuff to try and do this right. I think the only stuff missing is a couple of the flush and defend stuff from the GH poster.

Each day as I read more and more about growing, I am overwhelmed with the amount of other nutrients products out there.

I want to know if there's any other stuff I can add to my plants to make them grow bigger, faster, taste better and have a one nasty brain kick?

I see a lot of good reviews with the Coco stuff and Sensi stuff. Can I add this to my current nutes to make it even better. Anything guys, im bored and have and extra $30 to spend and i want to spend it on my babies. Actually, more like teens

Right now, my plants a little over 3 weeks. I replaced the water yesterday and moved from the seedling formula at 30% of reccomended mixture into the mild growth formula from the GH poster. Again at 30%, which pretty much is:

16 gallons of water with 24ml of GH Micro, Gro, and Bloom. I also added 40ml(30%) of Diamond Nectar and 24ml(30%) or Floralicious Gro.

I really wanted to use the normal growth formula but Im a little unsure. I don't what to burn the plants. I guess I can just add more nutes little by little to slow adjust it to where I want, except Im still waiting for a TDS meter.



thanks for any advice?


I have been keeping record and journals and some pix of what ive been doing, but not as much as I should or want too, and I think I might post it here when im done;-)
 
SteezyDee

SteezyDee

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It's easy to become overwhelmed and honestly, as this is your first grow, you probably want to keep it as simple as possible.

Some simple tips, keep the pH around 5.8, temperatures in grow room around 70s - low/mid 80s at most. A lot of people don't see the need for all the additives but I hear good things about Floracious. I'd recommend getting yourself used to using what you have before you begin adding more.
 
Nizza

Nizza

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from what i hear you dont need flora grow, just micro + bloom have enough N for veg+flower
 
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amcutem

Member
SteezyDee said:
It's easy to become overwhelmed and honestly, as this is your first grow, you probably want to keep it as simple as possible.

Some simple tips, keep the pH around 5.8, temperatures in grow room around 70s - low/mid 80s at most. A lot of people don't see the need for all the additives but I hear good things about Floracious. I'd recommend getting yourself used to using what you have before you begin adding more.
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Thank you and I understand what you are saying, and that's exactly what I've been doing.

The lady at the store where I bought my GH reccomended that I buy this thing when I flower. It looks like powder and it was expensive as hell! LIke $100 for a small container and it had the work BUD on the sticker, I forgot the rest, but it had 2 words.

My enviro log last night was:

84f, 47% humidity, co2 @ 1063 ppm. I didn't want to give more co2 until I have my TDS and can fully adjust my nutes. I though that its better to have full co2(1500-2000) when my nutes are at optimum levels...

Do my theories make sense?
 
SteezyDee

SteezyDee

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Damn bro, using co2 on your first grow? Lol go hard or go home, huh? Well I've never used co2 but I think people really save co2 for when theyre in flowering so maybe you'd want to do the same? Though co2 is obviously beneficial in any stage of growing (except when your lights are out).

If you keep everything as close to optimal as possible you should have no problems growing some dank, with or without the extra additives.. Just start with 1/8th formula for anything you do decide to add and work your way up from there as to not over feed and possibly harm your plants. Once you have your TDS meter and can measure your ppms it will be easier for you to alter your formula based off that information as well as how your plants are responding.

What kind of set up you got running (growing space, lights, ventilation, etc)? Any pics?
 
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amcutem

Member
SteezyDee said:
Damn bro, using co2 on your first grow? Lol go hard or go home, huh? Well I've never used co2 but I think people really save co2 for when theyre in flowering so maybe you'd want to do the same? Though co2 is obviously beneficial in any stage of growing (except when your lights are out).

If you keep everything as close to optimal as possible you should have no problems growing some dank, with or without the extra additives.. Just start with 1/8th formula for anything you do decide to add and work your way up from there as to not over feed and possibly harm your plants. Once you have your TDS meter and can measure your ppms it will be easier for you to alter your formula based off that information as well as how your plants are responding.

What kind of set up you got running (growing space, lights, ventilation, etc)? Any pics?
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Finally, somebody Asked. Thank you. ;-) It gets kinda lonely starting this and not being able to tell anybody becuz it so awesome... At first they were seeds and then puff, magic bud.

I really don't know how well my setup is, but I just used commonsense to make it. But as for your comment, " Go hard or Go home", I think you couldn't be more correct.

From what I've learned in life, going hard almost erases most doubts, makes me feel better, and it usually gets the Job done and then summmmmm....;-)

The only drawback in going hard or home is, to do it, I now i have be paycheque to paycheque for atleast, until February 2013, and even worst, no bud to smoke until this is over.

The grow area is kinda small, 6ft by 4ft and 8ft height. 2 sides are the room walls and the other 2 sides are plastic walls I made from home depot. Please let me know if you need description on how to make one. It was so easy, just make sure you smoke up when you do it, or else its hard....

Light is only 400watt MH conversion in a cool tube the runs cold winter air from the outside.

Does anybody know if will need ac for sure if i use 1k even with cold air from the outside ventilation running through tubes. Im too lazy to try and also afraid to dissapointed. I don't want the extra power consumption. I was thinking a couple of weeks only and not for the whole grow. Maybe during flowering??

There's also a humidifier present that I use to blow a breeze on the plants, but I rarely turn the humidifier function on becuz humidity is always at a good 40 to 70%. If I turn the humidifier on, it can reach levels of 90% in the room after a couple of days...

There's also a portable ac unit in there but is not hooked up becuz temp hasn't gone that high ever. Thanks to cool air and cooltube. I think i might need it if i decide to flower at 1k watt, but I must fabricate a proper vent so it can cool the room without letting Co2 out. As part of the go hard or go home again, I also bought an Air4 enviroment controller. I guess I can use that to operate the ac and automatically shut C02 off, but I don't like the idea of wasting Co2 like that. But the air4 is there if I need it.

There's also a 20lbs Co2 tank controlled by a Cap PPM monitor running on a timer that is set alternately. I read online that there's been a few incident where the CAp ppm monitor would sometimes dump the whole tank by error...No way jose;-) Thanks for the peeps that had this trouble for pointing this out. Love the internet.
The Co2 regulator is set to flow at 2, and it take around 1-2 min to fill the room with c02 and it barely turns on after that. I guess becuz they're still teens...

And last but not the least, i have a BlueLab Guardian on the way with a spare MW801 to check my water.

I will try to post pics soon, but its really not that big.



Any advice to make my grow setup any better is trully great...

question?


edit:

Here's the link that had a couple of pix. https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/579675-newbee-couple-pix.html


edit again:

I just went back to 18/6 cycle after a little bit more reading. ;-)
 
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amcutem

Member
Hey guys, I don't want to start a new thread about my babies, but i need vent out.

They are now very bushy and has 3 complete nodes on the
main.

I guess the best thing to do is just leave it like that, right. Just let it bush and
grow until flowering, then prune it.

Im really conflicted though. The light can go up all the way to the ceiling, but I read that scroging can produce more yields. Can I get the same yield if I just let them grow taller. I want to have the biggest cola Ive ever seen becuz ive never seen one before. Only online pictures.

I guess toping, trimmin, and all that stuff just divides the size of the colas as uppose to one big one, or can it produce a whole lot of
bigger colas, maybe just slighly smaller than without any stress or training?

what would you guys do?
 
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