Which of these strains should I grow?
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polyarcturus
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asking for opinions is like asking for assholes, everybodys got one.
i got lot of opinions, lots of knowledge too, but when it comes down to it, you know whats best, that why what on the list is on the list. i could tell you my opinion, but it would be biased, even if we where using the same setup, my style of growing is gonna be different.
just stick to the basics, dont make it overly complicated.
these would basically be the basics.
what do you like smoke?
how are you growing how do you feed?
fem or regular? and obviously the reasoning between buying he 2 is up to you, just has more to do with genetics both are good IMO.
is breeder reputable?
is strain stable? wouldn't go picking any hybrids if its your first go around
if i was to go by that list and only had the choice of seeds you listed i would buy Original Cheese, Black Widow, or AK-47. in that order as far as priority.
personally, right now, i want, tahoe OG(i think the most recent batch one is more stabilized, at least thats the word from the bird) medicine man(aka white rhino) and some kind of lemon strain.
as far as breeders, for the most part some have all good seeds some have a few some have none, IMO they all suck because they are forced to go through seedbanks. but i dont care the breeder i think for the most part all of them have at least one or 2 good strain, or they wouldnt be recognized, not to mention there have been a lot of breeders that have come and gone in the years ive seen.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
herbies is a pretty good spot.. i like the fact that you can get ton's of single seeds there vs the attitude where they only sell a very limited stock of singles..
singles are nice imo as you don't really have to commit too much to one strain only to find out it wasn't what you're looking for .. buying singles allows one to sample a larger variety and see what works best for them, what grows the way they like it, etc, without having to wait an entire crop to find out that you pretty much wasted your time on one strain that either sucked, wasn't very potent, didn't yield well, was a picky eater / grower, etc, etc..
a lot of people say to only grow one strain as it's much easier to learn that one strain and fine tune it and get the best from it, and yes, this is true, but i like to grow a variety of stuff until i find that one strain that will keep me happy for awhile..
so far i haven't really found that one that i'm super in love with and keep cracking more beans, good thing i got a nice stockpile.. i have grown a few strains multiple times, mk ultra by thseeds, sour cream and ghost cut by dr greenthumbs have all gone a few rounds each, but i tend to get bored and keep looking to find that elusive holy grail.
Jogro
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Taking the issues in reverse, you should have no issue with feminized ceeds so long as you get them from a good breeder.
SSH is somewhat similar to Jack Herer, being bred from similar stock. If you're hung up on the name "Jack Herer" you might want to give Sannie's version a try. That's derived from original Sensi Seedstock, by all accounts excellent, but probably 1/3 the cost.
On the first question, personally I'd avoid anything from GHS or Barneys. Yes, they won a lot of cups. . .that's more about their skill at marketing (and/or bribery) rather than line quality, in my opinion. Not that every strain from them is bad, and I think they probably do have some good ones, but I've seen too many reports of hermies and other issues to want to take a chance there. Also, (and I won't dwell on this), I don't like to do business with outfits that have shall we say questionable business practices.
From that list, personally I like Super Silver Haze, AK-47, Black Widow as my top three. These are all top notch smoke and though SSH is a little tougher to grow, the last two are tough to mess up.
Mazar is probably good as a pure indica. Soma NYC and Buddha Cheese both "ought" to be good, if you have the interest, but I can't speak from experience there. I'm sure you can find some good phenos in there, but personally I'm a bit leery of the CA/OG stuff from ceed because some of these genetics are hermie prone.
In general, most of these are probably fine and it comes down to personal preference. Pick the ones that intrigue you the most, I'd say.
m420p
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Well Said.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
hey jogro, i have to ask as it's something i've been wondering for awhile now.. if you don't want to answer, that's kool and the gang with me as i understand..
ok, here goes, lol.. where on earth are you from with that spelling of ceeds like that?? my guess is dutch, but i'm sure i could easily be wrong.. just something i always wonder about when i see you spell seeds ceeds like that all of the time..
ok, here goes, lol.. where on earth are you from with that spelling of ceeds like that?? my guess is dutch, but i'm sure i could easily be wrong.. just something i always wonder about when i see you spell seeds ceeds like that all of the time..
OGEvilgenius
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Ditto. Although I'd toss NLxHaze up near the top of the list if you can get a hold of it. MNS Auctions probably has it. Also I'm sure that MNS has a G13xHaze available that is certain to be better than Barney's Farm.i'd probably run in this order.. super silver haze
black widow
tahoe og from cali con..
m420p
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"to find that elusive holy grail. "
Speaking of Holy Grail, have you tried DNA's or RP's Holy Grail Kush. I really want a good kush, I know you like CC's Tahoe OG Kush but I was just wondering if you have grown it, or anyone else for that matter. It did beat out the Tahoe OG in the 2011 Hybrid Cannabis Cup.
Speaking of Holy Grail, have you tried DNA's or RP's Holy Grail Kush. I really want a good kush, I know you like CC's Tahoe OG Kush but I was just wondering if you have grown it, or anyone else for that matter. It did beat out the Tahoe OG in the 2011 Hybrid Cannabis Cup.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
the only negative that i've ever heard about ssh is that it's not very haze like in taste, which is a shame as i really love me some haze tastes and smells.. this is only from hearsay though..
i'm growing the blue dream clone only atm, which is ssh x blueberry, and i have to say these plants have a lovely, lovely haze smell to them, so that theory could be right out the windwo.. just something i had heard several times though and wanted to bring it up..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
nope, i have grown a few things from dna though, their sour cream like i mentioned earlier, and something else i forget atm.. i have heard mixed reviews on the holy grail from dna tbh...
if you get a chance, check out a grow report / smoke report on here from the skunk munkey and tell me that stuff's doesn't look bad ass.. he loved it.. he had a bit of a falling out with swerve, the owner of the cali connection, so i think he's had a big of a change of heart, but it still doesn't take anything away from his tahoe grow imo.
i'll look for a link in a few to let you peruse at your leisure..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
you ever grow that nl x haze ogevil?? it's one i've been interested in for years as you can't get much more solid in the genetics than that imo, but for w/e reason i have yet to try it..
m420p
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Not really into wannabe's, at the moment I want to go with more originals with non "watered down" genetics from proven breeders with good reps so I've decided to spend the extra money on them(Except Jack Herer, which I'm going to wait on). Seems like the smart thing to do being a newbie to the seed buying business or hobby for some. I'm sure I'll be open to trying different strains and breeders on down the road.
OGEvilgenius
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Recessive genes. It's probably still there, just not as dominant. Also worth noting is MNS only does regular seeds, so that's a source for regular G13xHaze.
Also worth noting is that femmed seeds done well are fine and dandy, but if they are S1'd you are going to lack diversity compared to regular seeds. That can be good or bad.
Lethal recessive traits have a much higher chance of showing up. However a well tested strain should be mostly ok.
Reputable breeders.
I will say I think GHS and Barneys probably have some decent gear to be had, and I think sometimes the reports about them get overblown because they do sell more seeds than probably any other company at the moment - and often to newbies - so that sort of increases the odds you'll hear about negatives IMO.
Generally I avoid them because philosophically I disagree with selling only feminized seeds.
OGEvilgenius
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Sannies version is better than Sensi's by most accounts. He's not a wannabe. He's a fuckin pimp who might have the best service reputation in the entire game. He resends orders without even asking questions. Who does that?
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
i really respect your decision to only want to run the real deal holyfields as i feel too many people just right in the bean game and have no clue as to who was the og breeder for this or that and simply buy the cheapest beans out there..
saying that though, sannie's far from a hack and his genetics are far from watered down.. he simply started out with the real deal jack herer and has since worked his jack down to like an f5 or an f6 by now, which means it's going to be an extremely uniform plant with lil variety between say a 10 pack..
i'm not trying to swing your vote for the og jack herer as again i applaud your wanting to stick to the real breeders of things, just wanted to let you know more that sannie and krew are some of the best in the seed business is all.. very cheap gear as well when compared to a lot of breeders, and in their case, cheap don't mean cheap..
Jogro
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LOL...hey jogro, i have to ask as it's something i've been wondering for awhile now.. if you don't want to answer, that's kool and the gang with me as i understand..
ok, here goes, lol.. where on earth are you from with that spelling of ceeds like that?? my guess is dutch, but i'm sure i could easily be wrong.. just something i always wonder about when i see you spell seeds ceeds like that all of the time..
I have visited the Netherlands more than once, and a few other places in my day, but nah. . . I'm from the good old US of A, born and raised.
The reason I'm deliberately mis-spelling "SEEDS" is because of the annoying autolink that turns every post of seeds into a weblink to the board sponsor.
I've got nothing against "Sea of Ceeds" at all, just that it kind of annoys me that my posts get hijacked into ads for this outfit.
So I came up with this alternative spelling "ceeds" to cheat the board autolinker, that's all. I've also tried "seids" and "se-eds", but I just like "ceeds" the best because its sort of subversive and hip.
I do think its hilarious that you think I'm European, though. . .maybe I should just go with that!
Yah. . .call me Dieter!
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
lol jogro, that was my honest second guess, but being a mod i guess i'm not supposed to think those type of things..
i do the m8 thing tons and often get thought of as a brit, and i love it.. if i can do a few small things to throw people off their game, well, i'm all for it, lol..
i do the m8 thing tons and often get thought of as a brit, and i love it.. if i can do a few small things to throw people off their game, well, i'm all for it, lol..
m420p
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That's nice to know, another breeder I'll keep in mind for future grows.i really respect your decision to only want to run the real deal holyfields as i feel too many people just right in the bean game and have no clue as to who was the og breeder for this or that and simply buy the cheapest beans out there..
saying that though, sannie's far from a hack and his genetics are far from watered down.. he simply started out with the real deal jack herer and has since worked his jack down to like an f5 or an f6 by now, which means it's going to be an extremely uniform plant with lil variety between say a 10 pack..
i'm not trying to swing your vote for the og jack herer as again i applaud your wanting to stick to the real breeders of things, just wanted to let you know more that sannie and krew are some of the best in the seed business is all.. very cheap gear as well when compared to a lot of breeders, and in their case, cheap don't mean cheap..