Banning Plastic Shopping Bags

nontheist

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i agree with this.. plus i just think plastic in general is bad.. we have so much plastic washing up in places all across the world.. i just as a species we just piss all over our resources, sometimes literally even...
as a species we can't continue to take and take and take. this is why i hate fossil fuels.. there time has come,there has to b something better, yet we get dudes running for office saying drill drill drill.. doesn't anyone remember what happened with bp in the gulf of mexico?? that shit fucking sickened me to watch how many gallons of oil dump into our oceans, yet like i said.. idk,
Removing affordable fuel will only aid in growing the gap between the wealthy and poor.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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fearthiest . . fears green energy and responsibility of washing grocery bags . . . . .to funny . . i could care less i dont drive but when i do i buy premium and red line it just to use my national avg . . fossil fuels are on the way out, if renewable and cheap energy is not apart of your future . . . idk what to say to you
 

Dr Kynes

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aren't most made form degradable bio petroleum anyway.
nope. low density polyethylene. when exposed to sunlight it breaks down rapidly into hydrogen carbon, co2 and dust.

the "garbage island" story is a fabrication. if you sailed through "garbage island" you would likely see no trash at all.

the pacific gyre (the number one cited "garbage island") contains mostly microscopic decomposing plastic particles.

the atlantic gyre is actually easier to see, because of all the sargassum. but sargassum isnt pollution, and thus the atlantic gyre doesnt elicit terror among the easily baffled.

interestingly, the "garbage island" in the pacific required numerous boats sieving the ocean to get any substantial trash. larger and more bouyant stuff is often kicked out into the currents and makes landfall.

like the Nike Tides in washington state.

www.msc.ucla.edu/oceanglobe/pdf/nike_invest.pdf
 

Trolling

New Member
http://mashable.com/2012/03/07/plastic-eating-fungi/ Old news is old.

A group of students and professors from Yale University have found a fungi in the Amazon rainforest that can degrade and utilize the common plastic polyurethane (PUR). As part of the university’s Rainforest Expedition and Laboratory educational program, designed to engage undergraduate students in discovery-based research, the group searched for plants and cultured the micro-organisms within their tissue.


Several active organisms were identified, including two distinct isolates of Pestalotiopsis microspora with the ability to efficiently degrade and utilize PUR as the sole carbon source when grown anaerobically, a unique observation among reported PUR biodegradation activities.

Polyurethane is a big part of our mounting waste problem and this is a new possible solution for managing it. The fungi can survive on polyurethane alone and is uniquely able to do so in an oxygen-free environment. The Yale University team has published its findings in the article ‘Biodegradation of Polyester Polyurethane by Endophytic Fungi’ for the Applied and Environmental Microbiology journal.



Problem solved.
 

nontheist

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fearthiest . . fears green energy and responsibility of washing grocery bags . . . . .to funny . . i could care less i dont drive but when i do i buy premium and red line it just to use my national avg . . fossil fuels are on the way out, if renewable and cheap energy is not apart of your future . . . idk what to say to you
Do you carry a bag for each individual cut of meat and each piece of produce? salmonella and fabric fucking love each other and live in harmony, washing detergent does not kill it effectively. Many studies have been done and 50% of reusable grocery bags have salmonella and E.Coli. They are the worst fucking idea ever, tons of research proves it.

Researchers at the University of Arizona tested the reusable grocery bags of consumers in Tucson AZ, Los Angeles CA, and San Francisco CA. Fifty percent of the bags contained traces of E. coli and salmonella, bacteria that can cause food poisoning in humans. The bacteria levels found in the bags were significant enough to cause serious health concerns, even death. They are a particular danger to young children, pregnant women, the elderly, and anyone with a depressed immune system.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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no i dont i pile it all together, juices leaking all over, im rarely sick and i havent had a case of food poisoning since i drank bad milk ten years ago

you people that fear everything, especially germs really crack me up

researchers used to tell you Y2K was going to kil us all and that cigs were good for you and all sortS of other shit,

i live in a town full of bring your own baggers has been for a while .. there is no increase in any of those ailments or illnesses

, i think its more .......the stupid act stupider when we take away mandated protection negating any responsibility to keep themselves and there environments clean

oh and im more beardo then clean freak, there's no outbreaks of anything on any scale in my house or in my town . . maybe we just have common sense to keep our food clean
 

Trolling

New Member
Yeah, same here. I'm a dishwasher and although I wear gloves, they're really thin and rip so I always change them but that's mostly because it makes me feel better about touching soggy food but water does get in there and I haven't been sick since I was like 10. Plus most of the people don't even wear gloves and they work dish everyday. Granted they're Mexican so they don't complain about anything lol.


Still those shows where they have about germs oh this and that and make it all dramatic is all the same. Hello, GERMS ARE EVERYWHERE, this is why we have something called immune systems.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
nope. low density polyethylene. when exposed to sunlight it breaks down rapidly into hydrogen carbon, co2 and dust.

the "garbage island" story is a fabrication. if you sailed through "garbage island" you would likely see no trash at all.

the pacific gyre (the number one cited "garbage island") contains mostly microscopic decomposing plastic particles.

the atlantic gyre is actually easier to see, because of all the sargassum. but sargassum isnt pollution, and thus the atlantic gyre doesnt elicit terror among the easily baffled.

interestingly, the "garbage island" in the pacific required numerous boats sieving the ocean to get any substantial trash. larger and more bouyant stuff is often kicked out into the currents and makes landfall.

like the Nike Tides in washington state.

www.msc.ucla.edu/oceanglobe/pdf/nike_invest.pdf
another lie. 'microscopic' bits of plastic are still bits of plastic. and they're not microscopic, it's confetti sized bits....

since you're so good at naming documentaries, take a look at this one: Garbage Island, it's on youtube, part 3.

that's ONE boat getting 60 to 1 ratios of plastic to wildlife. 3,000 miles from shore in the middle of the ocean....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=X5ZKk11R56o&NR=1
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Yeah, same here. I'm a dishwasher and although I wear gloves, they're really thin and rip so I always change them but that's mostly because it makes me feel better about touching soggy food but water does get in there and I haven't been sick since I was like 10. Plus most of the people don't even wear gloves and they work dish everyday. Granted they're Mexican so they don't complain about anything lol.


Still those shows where they have about germs oh this and that and make it all dramatic is all the same. Hello, GERMS ARE EVERYWHERE, this is why we have something called immune systems.
when i used to dishwash id let all the shit pile up in the traps and when the up front staff came asking for silver wear id say its in there . . . lol and reach in . ,. half the time they leave ready to vomit

i laughed at the newbies that came in trying to protect there precious hands with gloves, but our preps always wore gloves . . .not throw away's reusable . . .
 

UncleBuck

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another lie. 'microscopic' bits of plastic are still bits of plastic. and they're not microscopic, it's confetti sized bits....

since you're so good at naming documentaries, take a look at this one: Garbage Island, it's on youtube, part 3.

that's ONE boat getting 60 to 1 ratios of plastic to wildlife. 3,000 miles from shore in the middle of the ocean....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=X5ZKk11R56o&NR=1
birchers and science are not made for each other.
 

Trolling

New Member
If they didn't provide those paper thin gloves I think I would to lol. We have this soup bowl tub thing where they're suppose to soak and this thing is about halfway to my elbow and when it gets murky, you have to check the bottom for any stray bowls and I always dread it, all those bits of nasty leftover soup bits. I don't mind touching the plates as much, it's when the food is soaking or gets wet, especially bread.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
no i dont i pile it all together, juices leaking all over, im rarely sick and i havent had a case of food poisoning since i drank bad milk ten years ago

you people that fear everything, especially germs really crack me up

researchers used to tell you Y2K was going to kil us all and that cigs were good for you and all sortS of other shit,

i live in a town full of bring your own baggers has been for a while .. there is no increase in any of those ailments or illnesses

, i think its more .......the stupid act stupider when we take away mandated protection negating any responsibility to keep themselves and there environments clean

oh and im more beardo then clean freak, there's no outbreaks of anything on any scale in my house or in my town . . maybe we just have common sense to keep our food clean
as you fear plastic bags.

lol
 

Prisoner #56802

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I aint one of them boys from the past who aint got the answer
I got the answer
Dance round pricks wanna flow like a dancer
Gangsters put in your crew
There's no drugs
And I won't take yes for the answer
When shots fly you'll be jumpin' like an irish dancer
My name's skemo
So class-ey like eno
Troublemaker like reno

Yo, everything seems cloudy
Everything dropped in the game cause I'm rowdy
Carry on I will take a hammer to your Audi
I met a soldier from Saudi
Not that rowdy
Wanna see D try and how me
Cause next week and you still aint ground me
The phone starts ringing when a drive thru grounds me
Where's lethal he aint in boundary

Chorus:
Dem na like me
And me na like them
Dem are are me enemy
Dem aren't ma friend (x7)
 

OGEvilgenius

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Land of the free.

You can't buy plastic bags. You can't decide what toilet you want. You can't decide what kind of light source you want to use.

But you live in a free country, don't worry.
 

Samwell Seed Well

Well-Known Member
You can't buy plastic bags. You can't decide what toilet you want. You can't decide what kind of light source you want to use.
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is this is what you think freedom means . . . ...wow . . . . just wow . . . . ..

i call this kind of entitlement and most really

the "if you give a mouse a cookie" mentality . . .the idea that there is always something more to be had or that because it is possible to be had it should be . .. . .next retort will be some other cliche slogan for freedom or some other veiled attack on freedom using trivial examples of regulation or control

weak sauce

bring the heat man
 

Trolling

New Member
You would have to rip these bags out of my hands if you wanted me to stop using them. I will never go back to plastic and I won't switch to paper

My bags are clean! If/when they get dirty, I replace them

:leaf:
Not those dummy, dunno how you got that lol, for the thrown out plastic ones and other plastics.
 
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