My experience with food stamps

ChesusRice

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churches have traditionally counted on the down and out as easy marks for evangelicalism
I am sure they are butt hurt the goverment has taken away some of their easier targets
 

Ernst

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employment as a constitutional right, and a $200 an hour minimum wage! lets make EVERYBODY a government employee and ensure EVERYBODY is "middle class"! :dunce:

who could object to that? except people with functional brains.
So what is your solution to getting rid of food stamps?
 

ChesusRice

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Many of the people that need food stamps are disabled or the elderly. Do you want to see some 80year old grandmaw in a walker picking-up trash in the city park for food stamps?! Or they'er college students trying to complete an education. Or they can't find a job that pays enough to house & feed them.
Let's feed them at least!...........It's f*cking FOOD!..........Hunger in America is SHAMEFULL!!!!
YES, Raise My Taxes, & Feed the POOR!.............and yes I know there will be abuses,............It's FOOD! We can errior on the side of caution in this instance.
College students are inelgible for food stamps
 

Red1966

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Our health care system is abysmal and I have tons of statistics from infant mortality, life expectancy, maternal mortality and more to back everything I say there. That said, with our huge US technology sector and a workforce needing jobs if the US could wed the two plus increase faculty salaries to attract nursing professors and more the US could be a destination for healthcare. I know - some rich despots come here for healthcare. Because they can afford the very best and they do. We can do it, we just fucking don't. Almost 4 decades in professional medicine. I have a few clues in the field. No insurance card? You just failed the wallet biopsy, amigo.
Our health care system is abysmal
OI know - some rich despots come here for healthcare. Because they can afford the very best and they do.
Any one else see the contradiction here?
 

ChesusRice

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Any one else see the contradiction here?
No
For example
the minister of quebec ( i think) came here for heart surgery
They could of taken care of him in Canada
but he came for a specialized surgery that the recovery time was months quicker
They dont do that kind of surgery he wanted in his province becuase of the amount of people there (sparse)
Didnt mean it was superior
and in the end The Canadian goverment paid for the surgery and the trip


"Believe it or not - this was in the sixties - we used to hustle on over the
border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse," she said.
`Sarah Palin
 

Red1966

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No For example the minister of quebec ( i think) came here for heart surgery They could of taken care of him in Canada but he came for a specialized surgery that the recovery time was months quicker They dont do that kind of surgery he wanted in his province becuase of the amount of people there (sparse) Didnt mean it was superior and in the end The Canadian goverment paid for the surgery and the trip
^^^^This^^^^^^ is not related to his contradictory statements. The service was available here and nonexistent there, so ours was infinitely superior. Who paid for it is irrelevant.
 

ChesusRice

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^^^^This^^^^^^ is not related to his contradictory statements. The service was available here and nonexistent there, so ours was infinitely superior. Who paid for it is irrelevant.
And why would the specialized cardiac treatment be available in the Province of New Foundland?
Newfoundland and Labrador /njuːfʊndˈlænd ænd læbrəˈdɔr/,[SUP][5][/SUP] /nuːfənˈlæn/ is the easternmost province of Canada. Situated in the country's Atlantic region, it incorporates the island of Newfoundland and mainland Labrador (located Northwest of the island) with a combined area of 405,212 square kilometres (156,500 sq mi). As of 2011, the province's population is 514,536
 

ChesusRice

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People traveling to Canada for medical reasons are mostly from the United States. Medical care in United States is almost double the cost of what it is in Canada, making Canada an attractive medical tourism destination for Americans.


However, those who are still skeptical about standard of care in America and Canada, should take a close look at the facts provided:


• Average in-hospital treatment costs are nearly twice as much in the U.S. ($20,673 U.S. vs. $10,373)



• There are 9.9 qualified nurses per 1000 population in Canada as compared to 7.9 nurses per 1000 population in US (so you get a highly personalized care!)



• Overall satisfaction with the surgical experience is similar in both countries (85.3% U.S. and 83.5% Canada).



• The number of acute care hospital beds in Canada is 3.0 per 1000 population as compared to 2.8 in US



• Canadians have lower rates of in-hospital mortality (1.4% Canada vs. 2.2% U.S.).



• Administrative costs consume more of the total cost of treatment in the U.S. (38.2% of total costs in the U.S. vs. 31.7% in Canada).



• In-hospital cost of coronary artery bypass graft surgery (CABG) in the U.S. is 82.5 % higher in the U.S. than in Canada.



• The mortality rate for end-stage renal disease is 47% higher in the U.S. than in Canada. Adjusted monthly costs of treatment are $503 higher in the U.S.



• Fifty-seven percent (57%) of U.S. patients have reprocessed dialyzers used on them, compared with 0.0% of Canadian patients.



• Compared with the American counterparts, low-income Canadians have a significant survival.



• Advantage for 13 of the 15 kinds of cancer studied.



• One-year mortality rates following myocardial infarction are virtually identical for both countries (34.3% U.S. vs. 34.4% Canada).



• Canada has a higher rate of annual bone marrow transplants (0.89 per 100,000 population vs. 0.81per 100,000 in the U.S.)



• Canada has lower mortality rates for patients 65 and older three years after both low-mortality (18.52% U.S. vs. 15.31% Canada) and moderate-mortality (19.19% U.S. vs. 16.63% Canada) procedures.



• Survival rate for four disease condition is higher in Canada than in America:
o Colorectal cancer: 113 Canada vs. 108 U.S.
o Childhood leukemia: 118 vs.110
o Kidney transplants 113 vs. 100
o Liver transplants 123 vs. 102



• Above all, American citizen do not need visa if the length of stay is less than 180 days.



• The prescription drugs and medicines are far less expensive in Canada.




The high cost in America is mainly attributable to higher resource prices for products and labor and higher overhead costs resulting from a nonsocialized medical system.


In addition to the cost effective medical care, medical tourism to Canada is an opportunity to explore places of interest and relax in beautiful ambience - an opportunity worth grabbing indeed!


 

Red1966

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And why would the specialized cardiac treatment be available in the Province of New Foundland? Newfoundland and Labrador /njuːfʊndˈlænd ænd læbrəˈdɔr/,[SUP][5][/SUP] /nuːfənˈlæn/ is the easternmost province of Canada. Situated in the country's Atlantic region, it incorporates the island of Newfoundland and mainland Labrador (located Northwest of the island) with a combined area of 405,212 square kilometres (156,500 sq mi). As of 2011, the province's population is 514,536
Did you have an argument with what I said or are you just going to post irrelevant cut and paste?
 

ChesusRice

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Did you have an argument with what I said or are you just going to post irrelevant cut and paste?
It is not Irrelevant cut and paste
The Premier had specialized heart surgery that is available here in the USA due to market size
Oh and the last cut and paste is an article on Medical tourism from us citizens to Canada
Any comment on that?
 

donmagicjuan

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everyone should have lots of dough and the first one to complain about how we made up this great fantasy world can eat a dick instead
 

Red1966

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It is not Irrelevant cut and paste The Premier had specialized heart surgery that is available here in the USA due to market size Oh and the last cut and paste is an article on Medical tourism from us citizens to Canada Any comment on that?
How does it refute my contention Hank was contradicting himself? Misdirection and irrelevant is my comment.
 

ChesusRice

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How does it refute my contention Hank was contradicting himself? Misdirection and irrelevant is my comment.
He is not contradicting himself at all
Our health care system sucks

And yes despots come here for treatment becuase they have even worse sytems

Doesnt make our system any less sucky
 

NoDrama

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In real life, pies that are about to expire are being thrown away. Lets support the free market programs that buy this food at discount and give it to the homeless and discourage overuse of food stamps and all of the side effects it brings.
If everyone who is hungry starves to death, then pretty soon no hungry will exist and you won't have to worry about it.
 

Red1966

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He is not contradicting himself at all Our health care system sucks And yes despots come here for treatment becuase they have even worse sytems Doesnt make our system any less sucky
Our system is abysmal and wealthy despots come here to get the very best treatment isn't a contradiction? Don't be stupid.
 
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