Planning my first grow. Would like some criticism.

Alembic

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You can use glass baby bottles, you can use baby food bottles as well - hell, I have over a thousand of the things - go to a big lots and get some baby food that you think would be fun to eat - they cost like 25 cents each.

Why must you be so intuitive?
 

canndo

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Why must you be so intuitive?


When you get to be 60 you lose your sex drive, you lose your hair, you lose your muscletone, you lose your eyesight and in compensation, God graciously offers you wisdom. Something sadly lacking or worse, no longer respected or valued.
 

Alembic

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Haha, give me your opinion on substrate depth, would slightly deeper substrate in a tub offer higher yield and larger fruits due to more substrate/moisture to feed off of?
 

canndo

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Haha, give me your opinion on substrate depth, would slightly deeper substrate in a tub offer higher yield and larger fruits due to more substrate/moisture to feed off of?


And fewer aborts. The only limit on substrate depth is accumulation of heat. Mycelium produce huge amounts of CO2 and heat - and they tend to insulate, so if you go much more than about 6 to 8 inches, you will have to moderate your environment to keep the temperatures internal to your substrate below about 85. If you go much deeper than 8, you won't be able to do it at all. Radioactive isotope testing shows tha nurient from the very bottom of even a deep substrate reaches the top and even into the fruit.


the pictures I posted are from deep substrate gows.
 

Alembic

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With these trays, should I sterilize some vermiculite/water mixture in the microwave and throw it on top? Or just let it grow as is? I've been really baffled by the art of Casing... Unfortunately a lot of people call bulk substrate casing, and it's just a confusing mess.
 

canndo

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With these trays, should I sterilize some vermiculite/water mixture in the microwave and throw it on top? Or just let it grow as is? I've been really baffled by the art of Casing... Unfortunately a lot of people call bulk substrate casing, and it's just a confusing mess.
I have posted many threads on casing. Casing is putting something with less nutrional density and high water holding capapcity over a fully collonized dense nutrient substrate - that is all it is but you can't beat it for convenience and yeild - as I have said, some of the pics I posted cannot be done without casing.
 

Alembic

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I have posted many threads on casing. Casing is putting something with less nutrional density and high water holding capapcity over a fully collonized dense nutrient substrate - that is all it is but you can't beat it for convenience and yeild - as I have said, some of the pics I posted cannot be done without casing.
I'll have to do some searching canndo, appreciate it.What are your opinions on super cakes?Or more specifically, this super sub idea.https://mycotopia.net/forums/newthread.php?do=postthread&f=10
 

canndo

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One of the problems/advantages of this sort of mushroom is that it will grow in spite of the people growing it - hence all of the variations in tequnique that we see. I can't see the site you are talking about from here but substrate is substrate. Exotic nutrient mixtures are a waste of time, bizzare sorts of cakes and logs and such are usually silly as well. the point is to emulate and perfect natural conditions. this organism will grow on just about anything and it will grow in just about any condition so that means that most of these "new" ideas are just for the user and not for the mushroom.
 

canndo

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ground kelp, corn meal, flax seed, nutritional yeast and coconut flour in very small amounts.
Why bother? I know that pot growers like to blend and concoct but as I have said, mycelium are decomposers that make what they need from their substrate. The kelp, yeast and coconut flour will add very little support, the corn meal is mostly made of substances the mycelium will break down anyway. These organisms are not like plants, they do not need nutrition broken down for them in order for them to absorb them, quite the opposite, you want to excercise it, to force it to grow from raw, undigested material as they are primary and secondary decomposers. The best you can do really is to have the PH right and the moisture level at optimum.
 

Alembic

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Why bother? I know that pot growers like to blend and concoct but as I have said, mycelium are decomposers that make what they need from their substrate. The kelp, yeast and coconut flour will add very little support, the corn meal is mostly made of substances the mycelium will break down anyway. These organisms are not like plants, they do not need nutrition broken down for them in order for them to absorb them, quite the opposite, you want to excercise it, to force it to grow from raw, undigested material as they are primary and secondary decomposers. The best you can do really is to have the PH right and the moisture level at optimum.
Maybe I'll start challenging the bastards and giving them some motor oil in with their mixture :D
 

Alembic

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My drawers were STILL not pinning yesterday, so I grabbed a small space heater from the local grocer. Hooked it up, put it at where about 80 should be (last night...).

Today: pins E V E R Y W H E R E Pics soon

Edit: Pics


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Ladies and Gentlemen, my hard work is paying off!

To humidify the drawer, should I simply slightly open it and mist the walls of the container?

Edit: Few more are popping up and/or getting to be pretty large pins. They are popping up everywhere! Humidification taken care of, Tyvek removed from the top of the drawers, added Press'N'Seal
 

Alembic

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It is finally time for Pin Porn!

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i have another try pinning like mad too, but will wait until the pins get bigger. This was taken yesterday, the pins are getting enormous now :)
 
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