FERO 336x3W and more, perpetual 12-12

hyroot

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Just cause they dont tap right away does not at all mean they're old. brand new master kush and blueberry seeds took 3 and 2 days to tap. I had a romulan and louis vlll og seeds for a year. Tapped in less then 24 hours. I found the more indica ones take longer. Some are what I refer to as sand paper seeds. You got a rub them with very light sand paper to get them to crack.
 

PSUAGRO.

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^^^this is also true.....................but with old seeds you have a higher chance of delayed/low germination rates obviously......their are exceptions to everything, we are dealing with plants here:P
 

hyroot

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Just depends on how they are stored. Ive always kept my seeds in the fridge. Of course you are right. Its a plant. Many variables.
 

Endur0xX

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Agent Orange came down tonight ... that one was 212 grams wet.
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I have picked 3 ''viable'' seeds from the Agent Orange, not sure where they came from, I inspected the buds very well and didnt anymore (other than a few non-mature seeds), I dont think they were from the Agent Orange male because a few were not mature enough (mind you they were on the lower buds) Anyway it should be killer weed, depending where it came from but I will try them out!!!
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I got this random Jordan of the Island plant almost ready, she is very frosty and the smell is out of this world, so pungent! I was trying to see if she is ready or not but it hard to tell the pics were not quite good enough ... I will let her go another 1-4 days.
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Some pics of dried AO that was in the same container as the other AO I harvested tonight .. I am guessing well over 3 oz total for that container. As you can see the smoke looks A1! I didnt try it yet :weed:
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Almost dry here is the Chemo that produced 70seeds of Agent Orange Male (tga) x Chemo (jordan of the island) I think the offspring should be decent!!
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Happy Growing everyone :eyesmoke:
 

Endur0xX

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I chopped the last of the Oh god this morning ... and no I was not drinking beer, but coffee :eyesmoke:

The smell is to die for , ... I got 2 that just germinated that will go into 1 gallon pot into flower room, once sexed (hopefully 1 female!!) I will topped them and veg/mainlined them. This strain is totally a keeper, I am looking forward to see how well it does with some veg time.
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Now everything is looking VERY good room2. Unfortunately I believe the pollen has made more damage than I had hoped. Well I am not sure, it wouldnt be from single bud pollination but from the Space Bomb female I brought in the room a few days after I removed the male. Now I am thinking I didnt spray it down with water and there might have been some pollen on her... she had a branch touching the Haoma and now the hairs are receding a bit what do you think?
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Anyway I am confident (or I hope? :eyesmoke:) the I will not have seeds in all my buds!! I also think that the space bomb will be covered with seeds... the pollen sack had opened before I removed the male (very few) but the spacebomb female was right next to it , .. and actually the k-train appears to be covered with non mature seeds so the pollen had def spread big time in the tent. Unless the K-train simply hermied like it did before and I just dont see the pollen sack?

The Space Bomb Female waiting to see if those calyxes have seeds in them, def a good strain to use in my breeding program she does very very well 12/12 from seed. I think that the buds are very slow to develop because indeed she is making seeds...
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So I raised the light on the one side I placed the taller plants all the same side. Grinspoon is going to be a nightmare to trim :eyesmoke:
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Blue city Diesel
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BlueSage, She really exploded with growth, she won't be a runt afterall ... that's another strain I will probably veg (got a couple more seeds that just sprouted), I simply trust Jordan's stuff enough I dont need to wait until I smoke it!
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NYC Diesel, Soma was right, what a beautiful plant that is, that's a plant that I hope she will be covered with seeds!! I attempted pollinating her again now that the flowers were a little bigger, might be small still I gotta wait another 12 hours or so before the hairs should start receding , I pollinated 2 lower buds and one of the main cola :eyesmoke:
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WW, doing very well so far, huge stalk, vigorous growth... it was slow to start budding so I think she is going to take a long time but should yield very well.
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Grapegod
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The family
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Happy Growing everyone :bigjoint:
 

Endur0xX

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Make Hash like the poor :eyesmoke: eh pro!!

Gumby Bubble Hash method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGNxUgFHcc


I have done the Gumby Bubble hash many time now with great success and some failure (always learning) The failure was mostly due to trying to use coffee filter near the later stage...




Anyway, I decided to push it one step further last night and make it in a way that you can do it with very little trim/buds and basically no equipment.

This time I had about 1 oz of outdoor bud that was super dry (could have been more I didnt weight it, probably more if anything) it was all grounded and I was worry that it would leave a ton of green matter in the end product but it is not that bad!! I think I would recommend grinding gently as to expose more resin glands. I am not sure this way of doing it will work with trim I ll have to try it.

I loaded the rest of the jar (I think it's a 2 L jar) with ice up to about 3/4, you want to keep some air space for an effective shacking! then I poored a glass of water or so and I shacked it like mad for 10 min.

Then I had a great idea :eyesmoke: I used the blender's glass container as a huge funnel and I simply place a strainer in between it and another 2L glass jar
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When that's done you want to put the container next to a sink (more convenient) and maybe higher on something, and you DO NOT move this jar for 3-4 hours ... when you come back to it the bottom should be a nice layer of resin.
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then an hour later ... (I waited an extra 2 hours there was slightly more but not much, no pics)
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Syphon the water out with a 1/4 inch pipe, when you get close to the resin I like to dump the waste water in another glass so I can stick my pipe right up to the resin glands. I will re-do the process on a smaller scale with what's in the new glass (call it glass #2) ... this allows me to really remove a lot of water without worrying about wasting any resin.

At this point I shake the glass jar with the thick layer of resin and help suspend the resin all in the water and I poured it in a plate upside down. I rinse the 2L Jar with very little water to collect the resin that stayed in the glass and poured that water in glass #2 ...

I will get to this glass #2 later (to simply re-do the same thing...) now I want some hash and quick!!

So I place the plate in a warm dry area overnight (if it's day time and you want it quicker you can do as gumby did in the video I guess with the heatpad and light bulb ... it will still take a few hours)

When I got up this morning I had some of the best hash I ever smoked! And it bubbles!!!

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Happy Growing everyone :bigjoint:
 

jubiare

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Looks delicious!!! Hey enduroXX, I'd be interested to know more about that tincture batch you made cheers (do u know by the way how to make the editor work:o)
 

PetFlora

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Hope that grinder is not for your espresso

I use a Solis Maestro Plus for coffee. I also have one like your for miscellaneous grinding
 

Endur0xX

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Hope that grinder is not for your espresso

I use a Solis Maestro Plus for coffee. I also have one like your for miscellaneous grinding

yes the grinder is my coffee grinder ... I have another one for pot and another one for random grinding ... they are all different, all cheap, but they all work!


The fact that I grind my coffee every other day is fancy enough for me :eyesmoke:

speaking of ... coffee time!!
 

Chronikool

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So with your breeding experiment(s) , i guess you will get to see if the babies grow better then their parents as they will be products of LED. Or if this is absolute crap! :)
 

Endur0xX

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So with your breeding experiment(s) , i guess you will get to see if the babies grow better then their parents as they will be products of LED. Or if this is absolute crap! :)
no no it's not crap at all, I will have a lot of expensive for sale :eyesmoke:



No more big buds for me, it's not my goal anymore to grow big buds ... yes that's right, bud rot!

I am not sure whether it's my fault or not, I pulled a big fan leaf without scissor and I harmed her a little bit (a few days ago or so) and it looks like it's partly where the bud rot spot started ... I caught early . I got lucky I went to pull a dying leaf and she was dying for a reason, after I pulled it's almost like I could see a hole I was like WTF!!

So I chopped the bud significantly lower... half the yield is gone :sad: I thought I could save whatever that was between the rot spot and the cut but this morning I was looking at those buds again and I dont know, there is something wrong with them ... they are all green to the stem and all but they just feel slightly mushy ... nut sure if it's the strain. I will inspect the rest of the plant tonight again and see if I should chop her or not...

And the Channel+ next to it in the same container is quite a bit younger I am having issues with her as well lost most of her fan leaves they got all rusty.

AAAAAAAAAAAH FUCK
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Half of what I chopped is missing on there... it was literally half the yield...


FROM NOW ON, every single plant in my garden will get topped at least once... well this is my last full run of 12/12 from seed going to veg my plants ,.. well maybe a few 12/12 from seed in the tent.

Happy Growing everyone :eyesmoke:
 

PetFlora

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What's the RH in your tent/room? This could be caused by high humidity. I run into it when I grow in the late spring early summer months. That's when the humidity gets crankin, and my room is not climate controlled. You may only need a dehumidifier
 

Endur0xX

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Yes I had not been watching the RH for a while. .. well I knew when the lights were on it was always around 40-50. But now I went and looked when the lights are off and it was at 60 .. so Thats definitely where my problem comes from .. that and the fact that I harmed the plants when pulling off the huge fan leaf.

I think I might scratch those 2 plants... well depending I will look at the rest of the plant but it would be the good time to do it while channel+ is not too big ...
 

PSUAGRO.

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Forget the De-humidifier........the problem is the mold spores source(affecting the wounded plant that quickly worries me)......when was the last time you disinfected the room?? do you have a hvac vent running to the room, if so when was the last time that was checked for mold? I would consider getting an ionizer with a uvc bulb to destroy the mold spores in the air..........lowering the RH is a band aid...........if money is an issue this is smallest I would go > http://www.amazon.com/germguardian-GG1000-Pluggable-UV-C-Sanitizer/dp/B000G2BESO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353792578&sr=8-1&keywords=germ+guardian

good luck endo
 

Endur0xX

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yes the last time was back in August when I replaced the carbon filter ...I was planning on cleaning after I harvest the last few Agent Orange... That thing from amazon would be useless because the air is being exchanged 24-7 in the room.

One minute I think I had it all figured out and that I was good at it and the next minute I feel like giving up ...

I am gonna go see if I can kill a few plants anyway. make some room, grow less plants.
 

PetFlora

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I use H2O2 in a spray bottle. I buy concentrated from beauty supply, which is typically 30-40%. Dilute @ ~ 1:10 with pure water. Spray the room and the plants

If you have high powered lights then raise them up until the H2O2 dries
 

Campo Cultivator

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yes bud rot can be a bitch like the man said h202 helps and yeah you will have to strip the room and spray with a stronger concentration as well unlucky man
ok so I have started my own 12/12 grow from seed now bud heres a vid of me starting them off I made for Fero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVI65gvmkA0&feature=plcp
good luck with the bud rot and bring that humidity down Im confident you will work it out
 

Endur0xX

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I got a few plants that I cant really move ... the big clean up will have to wait about 10 days. But I am thinking of cutting one of the Agent Orange early now because the plant is basically 2 big buds (I mean big)


I chopped the K - train yesterday, it's loaded with seeds from a late pollination (again... spacebomb) ... that was before I even took it out of the room, it was the only budding plant in the tent at that point. Not enough time for the seeds to mature and I dont want those seeds...I know the buds are not ready either... last of the Ktrain went into tinctures and this one will become hash.

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This is Spacebomb, I would like to know what to expect with her if anyone has ever pollinated a plant so early. She was so slow to start budding but now it seems like she might produce some flowers? You can see she has been working on seeds for a while.
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Right now I plan on keeping her until the seeds are ready and then chop her. It's going to be a great strain for 12/12 fs. If I can find the right strains, I will continue doing 12/12 fs only with 3-4 plants per light.

If Eraserhead happens to see this, can you tell me what do you think of the distance of my lights? (everyone else's opinion would be great)

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The Grapegod is has her canopy at about 26'', the medecine s got the main bud at 18'' and as you can see I am trying hard to keep her from getting ahead of the pack.

I took the spacebomb out and replaced it with younger plants and lowered the left light back to where it was. I moved Grinspoon near the door so that I can help it it needs a lot of maintenance, you wouldnt believe how many branches I just chopped.

Happy Growing everyone :eyesmoke:
 
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