Fentanyl withdrawals? Really?

canndo

canndo

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Been taking fent every other or third day for about 3 weeks now - I don't know why really but I have been ignoring my long standing mandates in care for my opiate receptors. That is what keeps me from having to spend lots of money on opiates - I mean, when you can get a nice half day buzz on 20 mg of hydro even after taking it for 20 years, that's a good thing right?


but... I quit taking this fen three days ago and found that I couln't sleep - I couldn't find a comfortable position, I couldn't stay in one spot, benzos didn't help, I have had that very same thing after a long run of opium, sneezing in the morning, running nose, a "head cold", your ordinary craving for just a hint more - goes away after two days, three at the most - not problems really but the not being able to sleep and the discomfort of that internal body frustration isn't very pleasant.


But, I got the same thing after three weeks on and off use of fent - is this normal? should I alter my behavior with regard to this stuff? I'm running out and doubt I will ever get any more - it isn't that great unless I bring myself to a full nod. Anyone got any knowlege of fent and addiction potential and withdrawals? I'm probably going to ease off over the next three days with little slivers of it and hold off for a few weeks. Oh, and I am chewing between 1/8th and less than 1/4 of a 50 mcg per hour patch during those sessions. They tend to last all day if I spit it out as I get noddy and put it back in an hour or two later.
 
Ringsixty

Ringsixty

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Yep, Fentanyl is very addicting. I was on the 4x4 inch patches constant dermal dosing for about a month and a half. Sucked coming off of it.
Just got to ride it out.

Good Luck
 
canndo

canndo

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Ringsixty said:
Yep, Fentanyl is very addicting. I was on the 4x4 inch patches constant dermal dosing for about a month and a half. Sucked coming off of it.
Just got to ride it out.

Good Luck
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Ring - you were on it constantly for a month and a half, I am dosing on and off - having consumed 4 patches in a month (between my wife and I - she seems to have a particular affinity to the stuff that I unfortunately don't have - it is too hard to dose correctly and the sub-nod effects aren't all that wonderful where I am not overly enamored of the nod itself - never have been really,though the delerious, hyper-dream state I am placed in is ok - if I am going to go that route I would much prefer opium itself.

I think I read somewhere that the serum half life is something along the lines of 20 hours - is it possible that I am actually under the influence even during the sober portions of my days and that contributes to the overall effect?

I don't want to harm my receptors for other opiates, am I doing that? Is there a cross tolerance that I am neglecting here?


Thanks for your input - it is greatly appreciated - and I hope that perhaps others who wish to dabble in opiate luxury will learn something about basic management. I have read where folks will take huge amounts of some opiate or another rather than simply wait a while and keep their tolerance in check.

I have been dabbling in opiates for about 20 years and would be sorely dissapointed if I ruin myself with a substance that isn't all that great to begin with.

Yes, certainly I intend to ride it out in order to retain the usefullness of the remaining two patches. Oh, also I have been mixing this stuff with oxy or hydro in order to make my stash of hydro last longer - maybe this isn't such a good idea?
 
knnthc93

knnthc93

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I dont know if you have a problem that is making you take all these drugs but have you thought about doing a detox and maybe rehab?? Seems to me that you might have a control problem. Sorry if I am out of place but you posted about about heavy drugs a few times, might want to call it quits.
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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Based on how fast and how high fent raised my tolerance a much faster schedule for dependence wouldn't totally shock me. I'd stay off them for at least a week.
 
canndo

canndo

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knnthc93 said:
I dont know if you have a problem that is making you take all these drugs but have you thought about doing a detox and maybe rehab?? Seems to me that you might have a control problem. Sorry if I am out of place but you posted about about heavy drugs a few times, might want to call it quits.
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You are not out of line, I have thought that maybe there was a problem but I don't think so, this is simply where I am in my life right now, it is what has been coming my way and I have had the time to enjoy them. I don't get to drink any more, I don't smoke pot, most other avenues that might enable me to sooth the laments of the existentialist have been closed either voluntarily or by virtue of health and so this is where I've chosen to divert my attention. Does it interfere with my ability to put food on the table? does it interfere with my association with friends? with my hobbies? with my love life and marriage? Do I place my useage above my family life? Do I live only for such substances? These are reasonable questions. You will see my posts concerning substances because that is the topic of this portion of this particular site.

Check the political threads and you will see me talking about politics. Check other sites and you will see me talking about growing tomatoes or making compost or growing exotic eatable mushrooms (three of my hobbies). Of course there is the micropropagation - but my speaking about that is on hold. In fact one of the reasons you see me posting what I have - questioning my level of consumption - might probably indicate my attention to that specific concern.

We will get a somewhat distorted view of a person if we only see them in the narrow window of a single topic thread in a somewhat single topic forum.

Thank you for your concern though - it pleases me that there are folks who have regard for others even though they do not know them.
 
knnthc93

knnthc93

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I feel you, I have just seen people fuck their life up. Wouldn't want someone else to go through that, even if I dont know you.
 
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testtime

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canndo said:
You are not out of line,
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These are reasonable questions. You will see my posts concerning substances because that is the topic of this portion of this particular site.
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Thank you for your concern though - it pleases me that there are folks who have regard for others even though they do not know them.
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I am impressed by both of you. I had a bit of thought in that direction, and decided it wasn't my place. No experience in opiates to that level, since I watched my brother spiral hard on oxys. But it was his experience, not mine, so I cannot claim any deep knowledge.

So I cringed a bit on the question, hoping it didn't go bad, and then got the response, and was enlightened a bit.

Thanks
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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canndo said:
You are not out of line, I have thought that maybe there was a problem but I don't think so, this is simply where I am in my life right now, it is what has been coming my way and I have had the time to enjoy them. I don't get to drink any more, I don't smoke pot, most other avenues that might enable me to sooth the laments of the existentialist have been closed either voluntarily or by virtue of health and so this is where I've chosen to divert my attention. Does it interfere with my ability to put food on the table? does it interfere with my association with friends? with my hobbies? with my love life and marriage? Do I place my useage above my family life? Do I live only for such substances? These are reasonable questions. You will see my posts concerning substances because that is the topic of this portion of this particular site.

Check the political threads and you will see me talking about politics. Check other sites and you will see me talking about growing tomatoes or making compost or growing exotic eatable mushrooms (three of my hobbies). Of course there is the micropropagation - but my speaking about that is on hold. In fact one of the reasons you see me posting what I have - questioning my level of consumption - might probably indicate my attention to that specific concern.

We will get a somewhat distorted view of a person if we only see them in the narrow window of a single topic thread in a somewhat single topic forum.

Thank you for your concern though - it pleases me that there are folks who have regard for others even though they do not know them.
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Canndo, if it is an option ... stay well clear of any opiates for a while, say a year. What you describe was the thin edge of the wedge for me. I am now ruined for the opiates. I don't wish that upon you. The body learns some nasty habits, if you'll excuse the mangled metaphor. cn
 
egon

egon

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I had some fent not to long ago, cut to hell though I smoked and snorted it off an on for a few weeks.. quit for 2 week with no withdrawals then started up again the second go larger doses and after I ran out out a few weeks later and had mild withdrawals for a few days.. don't know if its common or not but happened to me..

Nothing wrong with hard drug use as long as you keep your wits about you fellas.
 
Bones 420

Bones 420

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canndo said:
Been taking fent every other or third day for about 3 weeks now - I don't know why really but I have been ignoring my long standing mandates in care for my opiate receptors. That is what keeps me from having to spend lots of money on opiates - I mean, when you can get a nice half day buzz on 20 mg of hydro even after taking it for 20 years, that's a good thing right?


but... I quit taking this fen three days ago and found that I couln't sleep - I couldn't find a comfortable position, I couldn't stay in one spot, benzos didn't help, I have had that very same thing after a long run of opium, sneezing in the morning, running nose, a "head cold", your ordinary craving for just a hint more - goes away after two days, three at the most - not problems really but the not being able to sleep and the discomfort of that internal body frustration isn't very pleasant.


But, I got the same thing after three weeks on and off use of fent - is this normal? should I alter my behavior with regard to this stuff? I'm running out and doubt I will ever get any more - it isn't that great unless I bring myself to a full nod. Anyone got any knowlege of fent and addiction potential and withdrawals? I'm probably going to ease off over the next three days with little slivers of it and hold off for a few weeks. Oh, and I am chewing between 1/8th and less than 1/4 of a 50 mcg per hour patch during those sessions. They tend to last all day if I spit it out as I get noddy and put it back in an hour or two later.
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What's a hydro? Are you talking about Hydro Morphs ? I'm just confused because you can't get 20 mg Hydros, unless you added the other 2 mg yourself :p
 
Bones 420

Bones 420

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Hydro Morphs is Hydrocodone.

Where the fuck are you guys from?!?! We get 3mg, 6mg, 12mg, 18mg, 24mg, and 30 mg Hydros.:-?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Bones 420 said:
Hydro Morphs is Hydrocodone.

Where the fuck are you guys from?!?! We get 3mg, 6mg, 12mg, 18mg, 24mg, and 30 mg Hydros.:-?
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In the States, hydromorphone is Dilaudid, typically in 2 and 4-mg tabs. Hydrocodone is usually sold as 5 and 7.5 mg, always compounded with acetaminophen (Vicodin, Lorcet) or ibuprofen (Vicoprofen)

I think what you're describing is Hydromorph Contin, a slow-release high-dose preparation of hydromorphone peculiar to Canada. That'll iron your boxers. cn
 
Bones 420

Bones 420

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Yes it's the Hydromorph contin here in Canada.

Does your guys' Hydros come as beads? Or in a pill? Haha this is so foreign to me I didn't know there were other hydros:grin:
 
egon

egon

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He never said it was one single pill my guess is two ten mg hydrocodones. Which is a mighty low tolerance their canndo
 
canndo

canndo

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egon said:
He never said it was one single pill my guess is two ten mg hydrocodones. Which is a mighty low tolerance their canndo
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Yep - I like it that way - but I tried two today just to see and I get the equivelent of about half of one - this fentanyl screwed me up - now I am going to have to dry out for a while or refigure my stash. 18 norcos = 9 Fridays usually. three poppy pods is a nice weekend.

but after this fent we are talking about what? 3 fridays? not so good.
 
Bones 420

Bones 420

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egon said:
He never said it was one single pill my guess is two ten mg hydrocodones. Which is a mighty low tolerance their canndo
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I was asking him if Hydromorphs (from wherever he lives) comes in beads in a capsule like it does in Eastern Canada, or if it is in pill form. I think you misunderstood my post :p
 
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