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Moebius

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This was one of the less stretchy of my 2L hempys. Its an Exodus Cheese 12/12 from 1week seedling. I took a few clones so was planning to do a large run of this pheno, I'm may just go with the shorter, more manageable Grand daddy purple pheno I have as it has tighter internodes.



 

Moebius

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btw. I took this one at 8 weeks, could have left till 9. Im not overly satisfied with the yield on these Ex.Cheese. Buds seems nice.


Edit:

Has anyone ever heard of MH in first 2 weeks of 12/12 creating shorter, tighter plants?

If so, thoughts please. Myth or Fact?
 

ineverveg

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btw. I took this one at 8 weeks, could have left till 9. Im not overly satisfied with the yield on these Ex.Cheese. Buds seems nice.
Damm, I just set away a few of them from seed to try and get a good mother.
not happy to hear 9 weeks,I need strains for my system that take 8 for perpetual
 

Moebius

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Damm, I just set away a few of them from seed to try and get a good mother.
not happy to hear 9 weeks,I need strains for my system that take 8 for perpetual
actually a I chopped a day or two shy of 8 weeks and to be fair, the plant got so little attention. It was just a tester to see if I could work with it at my low height. Im 50/50, As you can see there is no bud on the lower 1/3 of the plant but that may be corrected with better technique, It was shadowed by larger more unwieldy phenos.

You'll probably have more success.

btw. I chopped a Lemon skunk more than a week earlier, dried it in 4 days, and ive already smoked some and sold the rest. LOL. Lemon skunk was done in 6.5 -7 weeks.
 

Moebius

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I have been looking at DNA lemon skunk purely because they advise to cut down after 50 days for the best taste
Its true that Lemon Skunks tend to be early bloomers.

My buds were phat and covered in crystal in less than 7 so I separated them and put them in my wooden clothes draw to dry. I had no smoke so I lit up a joint after 4 days. It tasted like Lemon Skunk and floored me. I only had less than 17g so never bothered curing and it was gooooood.

Edit:
I would do Lemon Skunk all day long. However its a stretcher.
 

sky rocket

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The exodus cheese looks good mobeius. Is that strain from green house? Also is your exodus cheese from seed or from clone straight to 12/12?
 

Moebius

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The exodus cheese looks good mobeius. Is that strain from green house? Also is your exodus cheese from seed or from clone straight to 12/12?
Yep GH. ... I threw a bunch of fem seeds down. 1 week veg. Got a couple of diff height phenos. Bud is proper stinky. Next time I'll do clones only, this radically increases the quality and yield in SOG when compared to seed.


Im chopping another 10 2L exodus hempys tonight. :mrgreen:
 

WattSaver

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btw. I took this one at 8 weeks, could have left till 9. Im not overly satisfied with the yield on these Ex.Cheese. Buds seems nice.


Edit:

Has anyone ever heard of MH in first 2 weeks of 12/12 creating shorter, tighter plants?

If so, thoughts please. Myth or Fact?
I have a friend that run 3 - 1k MH bulbs full run, never switches to hps, and his reason has always been it creates a more compact plant and buds.
 

drdank50

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I have a friend that run 3 - 1k MH bulbs full run, never switches to hps, and his reason has always been it creates a more compact plant and buds.
Flowering plants need the red spectrum though dont they? I've often wondered about running MH during the first couple weeks flower to keep stretch down, but everything I read advised against it.
 

Moebius

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Flowering plants need the red spectrum though dont they? I've often wondered about running MH during the first couple weeks flower to keep stretch down, but everything I read advised against it.
Just taken from Weed farmer; Ive seen on more scientific sources too.

Metal Halide - MH

Metal halide bulbs produce an abundance of light in the blue spectrum. This color of light promotes cannabis plant growth and is excellent for green leafy growth and keeping cannabis plants compact. It is the best type of light to be used as a primary light source (if no or little natural sunlight is available). The average lifespan is about 10,000 cumulative hours. The bulb will light up beyond this time but due to the gradual decline of light, it is not worth your while to wait for the bulb to finally burn out. If you compare their lumen (brightness) per unit of energy consumed, metal halides produce up to 125 lumens per watt compared to 39 lumens per watt with fluorescent lights and 18 lumens per watt for standard incandescent bulbs.


High Pressure Sodium - HPS
High pressure sodium bulbs emit an orange-red glow. This band of light triggers hormones in cannabis plants to increase flowering/budding in cannabis plants. They are the best lights available for secondary or supplemental lighting (used in conjunction with natural sunlight). This is ideal for greenhouse growing applications.
Not only is this a great flowering light, it has two features that make it a more economical choice. Their average lifespan is twice that of metal halides, but after 18,000 hours of use, they will start to draw more electricity than their rated watts while gradually producing less light. HPS bulbs are very efficient. They produce up to 140 lumens per watt. Their disadvantage is they are deficient in the blue spectrum.
If a gardener were to start a young cannabis plant under a HPS bulb, she/he would see impressive vertical growth. In fact, probably too impressive. Most cannabis plants would grow up thin and lanky and in no time you will have to prune your cannabis plant back before it grows into the light fixture. The exception to this is using a HPS light in a greenhouse. Sunlight is high in the blue spectrum which would offset any stretching caused by HPS bulbs.

http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/lights.php
 

Moebius

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So in the first two weeks before the flowers begin to show, I think i'll try giving MH then switch to HPS for them to bud up.

Others on RIU do this too. With my low grow-room it sounds like it might help. I'm trying to keep the canopy a low as poss.
 

drdank50

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So in the first two weeks before the flowers begin to show, I think i'll try giving MH then switch to HPS for them to bud up.

Others on RIU do this too. With my low grow-room it sounds like it might help. I'm trying to keep the canopy a low as poss.

Right on man, I'm down for trying anything :). Thanks for the info! Also, I check WOH more than I check Facebook. Just thought it was funny.
 

Praetorian

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So in the first two weeks before the flowers begin to show, I think i'll try giving MH then switch to HPS for them to bud up.

Others on RIU do this too. With my low grow-room it sounds like it might help. I'm trying to keep the canopy a low as poss.
I had this idea of a supercrop bend in my plants in soil pots to keep them lower and give the lower buds more light... corner of pot to corner of pot is about 5.5" (measured diagonally); I was thinking about rooting clones, planting them .75"-.5" from the corner of the pot, throw them into 12/12, then once they get tall enough bend them toward the opposite corner and staking the plant at each corner.. Think a Z turned on its side.

I recently super cropped one gods bud plant and the lower buds look much fatter now.
 

jela10

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I had this idea of a supercrop bend in my plants in soil pots to keep them lower and give the lower buds more light... corner of pot to corner of pot is about 5.5" (measured diagonally); I was thinking about rooting clones, planting them .75"-.5" from the corner of the pot, throw them into 12/12, then once they get tall enough bend them toward the opposite corner and staking the plant at each corner.. Think a Z turned on its side.

I recently super cropped one gods bud plant and the lower buds look much fatter now.
Supercropping works and it's amazing..I had a Sweet Deep Grapefruit strain that was stretching way too fast for my height limitations and I would pinch the stems to wound the top and make lower growth take over...slowed it down just a tad IMO.....it eventually did stop with tops just 3" under a 400W air-cooled reflector ...only until I grew the C99 you see a couple of pages back, would I seriously need to snap the stems completely, just 8" from the top and let them hang down...its so scarey to see your plant crimped, bend down with top dangling. But what a comeback, I think the plant somehow mends it's arteries even better than before. The tops went from 60° down to 15° up and yield is awesome as you see. Only the looks hurt my pride.
 

Moebius

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I had this idea of a supercrop bend in my plants in soil pots to keep them lower and give the lower buds more light... corner of pot to corner of pot is about 5.5" (measured diagonally); I was thinking about rooting clones, planting them .75"-.5" from the corner of the pot, throw them into 12/12, then once they get tall enough bend them toward the opposite corner and staking the plant at each corner.. Think a Z turned on its side.

I recently super cropped one gods bud plant and the lower buds look much fatter now.
When you say 'when they are tall enough' ... From what you describe I would have thought it would be possible to start the bend on the clone towards the opposite corner almost immediately.

... it would be literally growing across the top of the soil like a worm. Maybe that stem would eventually start to root. I totally see what your saying, I think ive seen this done before. like this?



I would try this but in 2L its pretty much impossible ....... or is it? (mini brainwave)
 

Moebius

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Proposal for training in a 2L hempy bottle.

The Black circle is the bottle. The inner Red circle is a cylindrical scaffold made from chicken wire. .. I propose it sits inside the hempy and protrudes about 12" from the top of the bottle.

Top view



Side view



The clone sits in the centre and on day 1 or 2 is pulled through the chicken wire, so the growing tip is now on the outside of the scaffold. Every so often the plant is tied to the scaffold and grows in a Helix type shape.

 

smoothness

Active Member
Proposal for training in a 2L hempy bottle.

The Black circle is the bottle. The inner Red circle is a cylindrical scaffold made from chicken wire. .. I propose it sits inside the hempy and protrudes about 12" from the top of the bottle.

Top view



Side view



The clone sits in the centre and on day 1 or 2 is pulled through the chicken wire, so the growing tip is now on the outside of the scaffold. Every so often the plant is tied to the scaffold and grows in a Helix type shape.

kinda like if a scrog had sex with lst and made scaffoldascrog
 
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