Is the religious right losing its grip on American politics?

[Padawanbater2]

With Pat Robertson condemning the young Earth creationist theory that the world is only 6,000 years old (traditional biblical view) and the massive defeat in the elections earlier this month, do you think the religious right is losing its grip on American politics?

Imo, without a doubt, we're seeing the beginning stage right before our eyes. The internet has been widely available for over a decade, I think people are getting smarter and more aware of what's actually been going on. There's no way for them to block the transfer of information (maybe why we've seen such attempts to do so in congress, regarding internet privacy), so a lot more American citizens are waking up to the game that's been played for centuries.

I think it'll only get worse for them. They'll continue to lose support for "traditional marriage", gay's and women's rights, abortion, etc. Everything they adamantly and traditionally oppose. If they wish to succeed in any more elections, they'll have to change their platform. If they change their platform, for a while at least, Americans opinions of the Republican party will be nothing other than "flip-floppers". That hasn't, in itself, been a deal breaker in the past, and it'll likely take more retarded rape comments to ensure it, but the outlook is certainly bleak for the GOP.

What do you think?

 

[Moses Mobetta]

I hope so . The ones I've seen to me just seem like hypocrites and false patriots .

 

[ginwilly]

religious nutbags and politically correct natzis are two sides of the same coin. We need to either keep em both to balance things or get rid of both. Eliminating one without eliminating the other could be catastrophic for liberty.

 

[Wavels]

The Religious Right began losing it's grip quite a while ago. Jerry Falwell bemoaned this development three decades ago. I suspect however that their grip has weakened substantially since then. Oh well.

 

[doublejj]

If you've ever lived in a Muslim country, you know why that's a good thing.
Religous zellots are a dangerous thing, no matter what shape their symbol is.

 

[Ernst]

Perhaps it is more the Old South mentality must change. It will as people die off but slowly.

Also God is more than likely a manufactured concept. Look at how many brands of God there are.. And we still are looking for God to show up for the average person and not just the mentally ill.

 

[cannabineer]

With Pat Robertson condemning the young Earth creationist theory that the world is only 6,000 years old (traditional biblical view) and the massive defeat in the elections earlier this month, do you think the religious right is losing its grip on American politics?

Imo, without a doubt, we're seeing the beginning stage right before our eyes. The internet has been widely available for over a decade, I think people are getting smarter and more aware of what's actually been going on. There's no way for them to block the transfer of information (maybe why we've seen such attempts to do so in congress, regarding internet privacy), so a lot more American citizens are waking up to the game that's been played for centuries.

I think it'll only get worse for them. They'll continue to lose support for "traditional marriage", gay's and women's rights, abortion, etc. Everything they adamantly and traditionally oppose. If they wish to succeed in any more elections, they'll have to change their platform. If they change their platform, for a while at least, Americans opinions of the Republican party will be nothing other than "flip-floppers". That hasn't, in itself, been a deal breaker in the past, and it'll likely take more retarded rape comments to ensure it, but the outlook is certainly bleak for the GOP.

What do you think?

And yet, thanks to the same Internet, we've had a remarkable explosion of woo, like ancient aliens and conspiracies and unlikely healing disciplines. The core problem is the human propensity for magical thinking. Even if traditional organized religion is headed for decline, new beliefs in the supernatural are busily being spawned and grown. I see no net gain or loss. cn

 

[Padawanbater2]

And yet, thanks to the same Internet, we've had a remarkable explosion of woo, like ancient aliens and conspiracies and unlikely healing disciplines. The core problem is the human propensity for magical thinking. Even if traditional organized religion is headed for decline, new beliefs in the supernatural are busily being spawned and grown. I see no net gain or loss. cn

I'd say looking at the numbers, there's a pretty big difference, while there are likely a few hundred thousand, maybe even a few million people who buy into things like ancient aliens theory or something similar, there are billions who buy into religion. I also see it as a net gain in that these theories, while pretty out there, don't assume moral authority over peoples lives and don't tend to judge people based on their dogmas, while organized religions do.

Believing in organized religion can have, and has had, pretty bad consequences, I'm not sure if the same can be said for AA theory, other than the misapplication of science, which, imo, if you're believing in AA theory anyway, you weren't a very scientifically minded person to begin with. These people don't hold public office or hold any real power, while it's essentially a necessity in regards to traditional organized religion.

 

[desert dude]

With Pat Robertson condemning the young Earth creationist theory that the world is only 6,000 years old (traditional biblical view) and the massive defeat in the elections earlier this month, do you think the religious right is losing its grip on American politics?

Imo, without a doubt, we're seeing the beginning stage right before our eyes. The internet has been widely available for over a decade, I think people are getting smarter and more aware of what's actually been going on. There's no way for them to block the transfer of information (maybe why we've seen such attempts to do so in congress, regarding internet privacy), so a lot more American citizens are waking up to the game that's been played for centuries.

I think it'll only get worse for them. They'll continue to lose support for "traditional marriage", gay's and women's rights, abortion, etc. Everything they adamantly and traditionally oppose. If they wish to succeed in any more elections, they'll have to change their platform. If they change their platform, for a while at least, Americans opinions of the Republican party will be nothing other than "flip-floppers". That hasn't, in itself, been a deal breaker in the past, and it'll likely take more retarded rape comments to ensure it, but the outlook is certainly bleak for the GOP.

What do you think?

Religion is never going away. I think it is genetic. Religion in politics might take a back seat for a while, though, and that would be a very, very good thing.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Maybe never completely, but it's been declining for decades. We will definitely see a day when the majority are non believers.

 

[Moses Mobetta]

Maybe never completely, but it's been declining for decades. We will definitely see a day when the majority are non believers.

That would be great . I'm so sick of people who call themselves godly and the wacked out ideas they have , they have proven to be the most dishonest people I have ever seen . Gangsters and members of organised crime are more honest than theses brainwashed types .

 

[timbo123]

With Pat Robertson condemning the young Earth creationist theory that the world is only 6,000 years old (traditional biblical view) and the massive defeat in the elections earlier this month, do you think the religious right is losing its grip on American politics?

Imo, without a doubt, we're seeing the beginning stage right before our eyes. The internet has been widely available for over a decade, I think people are getting smarter and more aware of what's actually been going on. There's no way for them to block the transfer of information (maybe why we've seen such attempts to do so in congress, regarding internet privacy), so a lot more American citizens are waking up to the game that's been played for centuries.

I think it'll only get worse for them. They'll continue to lose support for "traditional marriage", gay's and women's rights, abortion, etc. Everything they adamantly and traditionally oppose. If they wish to succeed in any more elections, they'll have to change their platform. If they change their platform, for a while at least, Americans opinions of the Republican party will be nothing other than "flip-floppers". That hasn't, in itself, been a deal breaker in the past, and it'll likely take more retarded rape comments to ensure it, but the outlook is certainly bleak for the GOP.

What do you think?

Interesting side note. Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization.

Fact!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57393466/pat-robertson-marijuana-should-be-legal/

 

[cannabineer]

I'd say looking at the numbers, there's a pretty big difference, while there are likely a few hundred thousand, maybe even a few million people who buy into things like ancient aliens theory or something similar, there are billions who buy into religion. I also see it as a net gain in that these theories, while pretty out there, don't assume moral authority over peoples lives and don't tend to judge people based on their dogmas, while organized religions do.

Believing in organized religion can have, and has had, pretty bad consequences, I'm not sure if the same can be said for AA theory, other than the misapplication of science, which, imo, if you're believing in AA theory anyway, you weren't a very scientifically minded person to begin with. These people don't hold public office or hold any real power, while it's essentially a necessity in regards to traditional organized religion.

I keep bumping into them irl though, and frequently. It's not a valid extrapolation, but I'm seeing maybe one in three or four holding to some sort of belief in the big woo. I suspect your numbers are waay low ... but have no way of backing that up.

Maybe never completely, but it's been declining for decades. We will definitely see a day when the majority are non believers.

I don't think so. Religion and woo both seem to meet a basic human inclination/need. As DD has observed with his opinion that it's genetic ... I see the proportion of people who see a magic spirit-hand or force moving in the mundane world as holding more or less steady into the future. Jmo. cn