FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

flowamasta

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Looks great as always! She kinda looks like a bigger version of my Blue cheese at the same age.
Thankyou indica :) feel free to post up a pic, would love to see the comparison, i have found that she is quite unique and exhibits the rare 3 way inter-noding structure instead of the usual 4 even.... I dont think it means much more than it came from a more tropical environment suited for higher humidity, the buds don't go like rock naturally they end up being really nice size dense but light nugs and always frosty all the way to the inside :) so keeping this strain more natural has worked for me well and her buds end up looking gorgeous. I'm stuck with her for a while and i'm so glad!! Ive even had 100% success rate with all my cuts from the last 2 grows.

Cheerz or your input! :)

jesus christ!! those buds are already the same size as mine, and there are way more of them! fuck man, your absurd...HIGHFIVE!
lol !! ha You are a funny man :) yeah i'm happy, mrs hasnt had much of a look ive been busy in there whenever i can and both have a separate schedule at present so i hadn't realized my better half hasn't seen her mans mistress growing for a while!! since the start of flowering nearly!! We are both shocked really, things are growing great even with the white fly breakout a couple of weeks back, which only affected some lower growth which will be all hash extractions and only damaged the leaves and never the buds so all is well.

Hey flowamasta, how much of an increse in ur power bill from the 600w light? Or are u using a 100w?
always been the 600 hps matey :) I pay more electricity in the amount of fans i use. Literally. Its great value, under 1000 buks for 3 months. Works out to be around $50 an ounce of erb in the end. So much better then payin 4-5 times that.

Thanks bro, pretty stoked with the new addition hey, she's so sweet :-)

Your girls are looking amazing as always man, there is some fat colas on the indoor one already woo hoo!! Even the outdoory will be awesome too! Well done brother :-)
great to hear man, a littl girl.... blessing :) Women are not to be under-estimated ;)

ha yeah the outdoories doin her thing, gonna be way to big for bein in the yard, but guess i can live with that, i'll try and hide her somehow soon before she starts to take of too fast! buds are still kinda thickening up so the full revert may not happen, just thick stemmy buds.... we'll see i guess. Loving my indoor girl, the new tent has done a fair job, the zips aren't 100% light tight so be warned if looking for a 'sky hawk' tent. but they are fine, good thick zips, and pull cords on all the ducting.

Hey Flowa,

Quick question, do you top your plants? If so after how many nodes? Just lookin at your stem tryin to work it out but i can still see a main branch going up....
You bet, Wwaaaaaay back usually at the beginning but this clone i had started in a different pot for a few weeks and topped her early. I top again all main growing tips and cut clones and splice at around day 22-25.

Thanx all!!! Update tomorrow night.
 

jazzyjsd18

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Hey Flowa, awesome work! I have a few questions though... Are you using h2o2 in your control bucket, or does it interfere with your additives?(Sugar rush, etc) Do you rinse or soak your perlite before using? I've heard Perlite leads to salt build ups on occasion... what precautions do you take to avoid this? Sorry for the questions, but browsing on my phone is sooo slow. Keep up the awesome work, bud!
 

eastcoastmo

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Sweet as brother Flowa, cheers for the reply and the best wishes! I would never underestimate a woman either ;)
 

^Slanty

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Well, I had a couple of crisis to deal with yesterday. I was lazy and didn't put my net in this round, and well, what a mistake.:wall:

The smaller of the 2 plants was having issues with branches falling over due to bud weight. The monster plant, well, it is so damn heavy that the net pot was falling through the lid of my rubbermaid container! I half assed got somewhat of some support in there and things are doing much better now! Lesson learned.
 

flowamasta

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Hey Flowa, awesome work! I have a few questions though... Are you using h2o2 in your control bucket, or does it interfere with your additives?(Sugar rush, etc) Do you rinse or soak your perlite before using? I've heard Perlite leads to salt build ups on occasion... what precautions do you take to avoid this? Sorry for the questions, but browsing on my phone is sooo slow. Keep up the awesome work, bud!
no prob, i dont use H202 ive only ever had 1 issue with a mild slime and thats from using zyme. I Flush every week, and i see very little salt build up using cyco nutrients. The thing is with salt is if its already started to build up it builds up faster the longer you leave it regardless of the medium used.

Oh and yeah i rinse my perlite and bottom layer of hydroton, its dusty as hell and you don't want that in there as thats the first stuff the salts will want to bind to. I used to use Florakleen....... Seen no real benefit after comparison. A good 5-7 days flush is all that i need especially with my weekly flushes..... EVERY SATURDAY :)

Sweet as brother Flowa, cheers for the reply and the best wishes! I would never underestimate a woman either ;)
Haaha :) good man, you know most women got this thing goin on where they pretend to play dumb ?! :P hehe
see you round easty

Well, I had a couple of crisis to deal with yesterday. I was lazy and didn't put my net in this round, and well, what a mistake.:wall:

The smaller of the 2 plants was having issues with branches falling over due to bud weight. The monster plant, well, it is so damn heavy that the net pot was falling through the lid of my rubbermaid container! I half assed got somewhat of some support in there and things are doing much better now! Lesson learned.
Glad to know everything is Ok. Better Go down the hardware store and build yourself a guerrilla cage for your ladies ;)
 

jazzyjsd18

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Awesome, thanks for the info! What're your weekly flush methods? Tap or RO? Do you just fill your control for a fewfeedings, or the whole day? And btw, is your feed line drippers or misters? Lookin forward to some more tasty Macro Pics, bro!
 

eastcoastmo

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no prob, i dont use H202 ive only ever had 1 issue with a mild slime and thats from using zyme. I Flush every week, and i see very little salt build up using cyco nutrients. The thing is with salt is if its already started to build up it builds up faster the longer you leave it regardless of the medium used.

Oh and yeah i rinse my perlite and bottom layer of hydroton, its dusty as hell and you don't want that in there as thats the first stuff the salts will want to bind to. I used to use Florakleen....... Seen no real benefit after comparison. A good 5-7 days flush is all that i need especially with my weekly flushes..... EVERY SATURDAY :)


Haaha :) good man, you know most women got this thing goin on where they pretend to play dumb ?! :P hehe
see you round easty


Glad to know everything is Ok. Better Go down the hardware store and build yourself a guerrilla cage for your ladies ;)
Haha yeah they like to play dumb dont they, then when you least expect it BAM they hit you with it lol
 

^Slanty

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Oh... and guess what is starting to come out FM!!? Some Color! I would love to upload a picture for you to gaze at, but unfortunately RIU has broken the site again for me.
 

flowamasta

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Awesome, thanks for the info! What're your weekly flush methods? Tap or RO? Do you just fill your control for a fewfeedings, or the whole day? And btw, is your feed line drippers or misters? Lookin forward to some more tasty Macro Pics, bro!
I flush very easily, The final flush being fresh water replaced daily for the last week, and each given week before that i flush by filling the whole system twice and disposing everything that comes out. I use auto feeder on a 24hr pin timer every 3 hours for 15 minutes each feeding. Feed rings supply the feed directly to the top of the system :)

Oh... and guess what is starting to come out FM!!? Some Color! I would love to upload a picture for you to gaze at, but unfortunately RIU has broken the site again for me.
Grrrrrrrr damn RIU

I got some Macros for you :p

ROLLITUP!!!! GET WITH THE FLOGRAM DAY 22!!!



WHATS THAT!!?? TRICHS ALREADY??? BUT... BUT... ITS THE FLOGRAM

 

cONkey

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beyond magic flowamaster! simply mindblowing. you are a wizard in the garden. im really touched by your sensitivity and the way you apply your intuition and technical knowledge. you INCEREDIBLE!! these buds are going to be MASSIVE!!

couple questions for you masta...

Dr.Repair has made your leaves a wonderful dark colour which you say will benifit in the light absorption correct? Is this a strain issue? Presently my PE is a nice colour but my COttoncandy is a light green. I backed up her light thinkin it might be light bleaching but really not sure. I use Flora Nova Bloom, cal mag and H202. what would you do ? is dr repair ok to use with those nutrients?

Im also very curious about the branching structures our hydro girls create .. Mine seem to vary a bit and i have documented each branching system in a post. Is this also strain dependent or is it a response to the way i topped and fimmed at early veg.? My PE branching structure is so wacked out lookin and gives me the heebee geebees..lol. but shes strong and healthy...and her branch is leaning about a 30 degree angle to the side, do you forsee a problem with this?, whats your take on the branching structure?

U fUckin ROCK DUDE! love ya!!
 

Mohican

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I think Sativa plants are more pale because they grow where it is very hot and sunny and so they do not need to have very wide or very dark leaves to get enough sun. Sativa strains also do not like very much nitrogen.
 

flowamasta

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beyond magic flowamaster! simply mindblowing. you are a wizard in the garden. im really touched by your sensitivity and the way you apply your intuition and technical knowledge. you INCEREDIBLE!! these buds are going to be MASSIVE!!

couple questions for you masta...

Dr.Repair has made your leaves a wonderful dark colour which you say will benifit in the light absorption correct? Is this a strain issue? Presently my PE is a nice colour but my COttoncandy is a light green. I backed up her light thinkin it might be light bleaching but really not sure. I use Flora Nova Bloom, cal mag and H202. what would you do ? is dr repair ok to use with those nutrients?

Im also very curious about the branching structures our hydro girls create .. Mine seem to vary a bit and i have documented each branching system in a post. Is this also strain dependent or is it a response to the way i topped and fimmed at early veg.? My PE branching structure is so wacked out lookin and gives me the heebee geebees..lol. but shes strong and healthy...and her branch is leaning about a 30 degree angle to the side, do you forsee a problem with this?, whats your take on the branching structure?

U fUckin ROCK DUDE! love ya!!
:hump: :) Thanx Conkey so love ya comments! always worth getting up in the morning to check my posts out for all you awesome people :) Conkey you have inspired me to do some art, due to a medical issue that stopped me from using my hands properly for over 5 years i have finally gained the strength to bend my hands in the right ways to get some artwork happening :) I'm Drawing a 'FlowaMasta' Placard for my tent see if i've still got the edge as you clearly always have had!

Dr. Repair will make your leaves a nice dark green, but i don't like to give it any later than week 3 in flowering as the food will last quite a while and since i gave the extra 1ml dose (2ml instead of 1ml) This could be strain dependant perhaps i like to think more of climate conditioning. Not only will certain elements be affected by certain Ph levels but temperatures will also play a major game in the way they change and react to other elements. I like to try and produce a 'rainforest' type environment but not deep in the rainforest more so on the edge of a creek just into the more humid areas of fauna. I believe the more fluffy type strains of weed are more suited for humid environments so therefore they will handle more magnesium and burn more nitrogen, so trying to synthesize nature is kind of possible, so i push things pretty hard. It may not look like much moves in my tent but that white fan up top is on max setting (3) as well as the bottom 2 fans for circulation. Not to mention my Evap cooler that constantly pumps humid air into the tent at around 23 degrees. This will bump the humidity up to around 70% when the light is off, with the mass fans and circulation the humid environment is perfectly safe provided always kept clean AND the air is replaced with fresh air and the used air MUST be exhausted. When the light comes back on humidity will drop slowly to around 50% over 3-4 hours Creating a hot and mildly sweaty environment which forces the plant to eat more to sustain energy, and to not only retain more water but drink more. I think Dr. Repair would be suited for all hydro and outdoor growing :) but again no later than week 3 in flower..... I know the cyco booklet states to feed it all the way to the end, but that to me is a total waste as half way through flowering the plant is naturally starting to burn through its nitrogen and use up its stored magnesium and potassium for growing the flowers. At the moment the plant has basically just finished 'Flower set' and will begin the swelling phase where the 'P' & 'K' come into the game. This comes from the plant itself NOT what we feed..... Now the way this level drops off will determine when and how your plant will fade out or 'Autumn' and finish drawing all remaining nitrogen out of the leaves pulling all the sugars to the surface of the leaves giving us the 'yellows' and sometimes 'pinks' :) They come from the flavanoids of the plant where sugars and resins form, If we don't fade the plant out at all she my want to keep growing or seed or even foxtail.... if we fade out too much we may lose valuable yield or even lose considerable flavour as things will die off before given time and the sugars will not come to surface and there will still be nitrogen and perhaps phosphorous which can give a harsh smoke.
I think branching structure does come down to the strain aswell as topping/fimming/lst techniques, they all keep their genetic code of pattern but i suppose going from flower to veg or visa versa could and usually would change growth considerably as it has with mine, but sticking with the same technique will keep similar results unless temperatures are completely different.

Oh and if you're worried about your 30* angle branch just tie her up in a couple of locations ;) i have branches growing 90 degrees and if the net gave in well..... lets not go there. My last harvest was CRAZY!!!! half way through trimming and my plant nearly pulled the tent over lol I forget that its a few kgs of wet pot.

Mo is correct in saying Sativas dont need as broad leaves or as dark green as they have more leaves to give photosynthesis so the leaves can be more transparent allowing light to pass through onto lower parts of the plant. Very easy to over feed a Sativa, however a sativa X :) :) can allow for some VERY large and Psychoactive buds! No more nitrogen, or calcium or magnesium now, only base food, continuing this weeks feeding with potash and MY NEW BLUEBERRY NECTAR from General Hydro which is Cane sugar, Molasses and malt extract with natural flavanoids from blueberries, and it smells deeeeeeelicious!!! going to add some real funk to an already puke worthy strain ;)

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! BUT, it is the FLOWAMASTA!!!! Awesome work my brotha!
:) :) THIS HAS FLOWN BY!! where does time go these days. Didnt i only just put this thing in?? what year is this. Have i been abducted by aliens? whos been writing all this babble!?

I think Sativa plants are more pale because they grow where it is very hot and sunny and so they do not need to have very wide or very dark leaves to get enough sun. Sativa strains also do not like very much nitrogen.
Hit the nail smack on the head :p The trick with Sativas is to hitem early with a good dose of food, i think of them like hibernating bears, they store food for longer and always return with such pride. You must be a happy man Mo, and i bet the highest you've ever been LOL :)

Thanx all for being here again! it's almost frost time. Actually it is..... It stinks down that way
 

eastcoastmo

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Wow Flowa, those buds are so massive already!! Do you think you'll outdo the last grow? If so you'd be looking at close to 2lb :-)

The info you've given above is spot on bro and makes perfect sense! Considering where a lot of strains come from in the first place, its good to try and mimic that environment for the plant to use and gain maximum strength! Top job again bro, so excited watching this grow too! Its the only thing i look at if in awake at stupid o'clock with the bub :lol:
 

cONkey

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Im so thrilled i inspired you to create your placard! I cant wait to see a picture of it. Its such great news about getting your hands moving again .
Thank you for all the information and taking time to answer my questions.
Since moving to the desert and growing in such extreme weather conditions i have really come to see how temperatures and humidity play such a huge factor in plant growth.
This past summer during the MONSOOn season when my humidity levels were really high my girl when NUTS and thrived and got massive early in veg..
I started my present waterfarms 5 weeks ago and it hasnt rained in over 2 MONTHS!
I keep a humidifier on but my tents ave about 30 % humidty.. 50% if im more than lucky lights off.
When i crank my intake fan up my humidity level drops to 10%-20% due to how fuckin dry the air is here! its a losing battle. I rely mostly on my osciltating fan so i dont have to pull the dry air in until the tents get over 80 degrees...should prob get morefans after hearing how many u use.
I have noticed a significant differnce in growth rate during early veg with out the extra humidity. It really worried me the first 3 weeks but things are moving along better now, still i dont think i will see the same yeild that i got this past summer.

Awesome info about sativa strains, thanks for your input MO. yeah the COTTONcandy is really sativa. I thought at first it might be a Nitro def but when checking her ppms she was really happy and stable at 600 which made me curious.

New Blueberry Nectar sounds very appealing, especially since its a GH product. is it going to raise you ppms? i bet its going to make your buds taste even more delicious! but wont the suga and stickiness clog your tubes?
take it easy mate.
 

flowamasta

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Wow Flowa, those buds are so massive already!! Do you think you'll outdo the last grow? If so you'd be looking at close to 2lb :-)

The info you've given above is spot on bro and makes perfect sense! Considering where a lot of strains come from in the first place, its good to try and mimic that environment for the plant to use and gain maximum strength! Top job again bro, so excited watching this grow too! Its the only thing i look at if in awake at stupid o'clock with the bub :lol:
Thanx man :) I may be looking at a little more maybe not..... it depends on the root system aswell but yes i am impressed with the current results, i think she will shock even me. Glad you're excited man! something about little ones too they sense when something is magical. As bad as some minds have made it seem if a young baby was staring into a tent full of quality ganja i bet they'd see the MAGIC in it ;) they see energy on a different level, they know how much happiness and calmness around the place its going to bring, there isn't anything evil about the marijuana plant if that was the case then our own bodies receptors are evil... Blah i could write a book on everything but lol :)

hmmmmmm this UVB nuggie has got me chattering away on the keyboard!

Im so thrilled i inspired you to create your placard! I cant wait to see a picture of it. Its such great news about getting your hands moving again .
Thank you for all the information and taking time to answer my questions.
Since moving to the desert and growing in such extreme weather conditions i have really come to see how temperatures and humidity play such a huge factor in plant growth.
This past summer during the MONSOOn season when my humidity levels were really high my girl when NUTS and thrived and got massive early in veg..
I started my present waterfarms 5 weeks ago and it hasnt rained in over 2 MONTHS!
I keep a humidifier on but my tents ave about 30 % humidty.. 50% if im more than lucky lights off.
When i crank my intake fan up my humidity level drops to 10%-20% due to how fuckin dry the air is here! its a losing battle. I rely mostly on my osciltating fan so i dont have to pull the dry air in until the tents get over 80 degrees...should prob get morefans after hearing how many u use.
I have noticed a significant differnce in growth rate during early veg with out the extra humidity. It really worried me the first 3 weeks but things are moving along better now, still i dont think i will see the same yeild that i got this past summer.

Awesome info about sativa strains, thanks for your input MO. yeah the COTTONcandy is really sativa. I thought at first it might be a Nitro def but when checking her ppms she was really happy and stable at 600 which made me curious.

New Blueberry Nectar sounds very appealing, especially since its a GH product. is it going to raise you ppms? i bet its going to make your buds taste even more delicious! but wont the suga and stickiness clog your tubes?
take it easy mate.
I will present my placard soon enough ;) when the flowers start to get gorgeous she'll be close to being done, its been a while since i've broke out the old lead pencil, im going to have to throw some colour in on top!! especially if its going in the Flowa tent!! lol well maybe on special occasions.....

That sucks about your humidity :( i have seen some great humidifiers and its all about output with them, they can be tiny and still put out wicked moisture, but i agree it would be hard to balance the intake and exhaust while battling heat, It maybe that having three tents in 1 room maybe drying the room out even more? you may need a swimming pool in there to battle the heat to keep the humidity up ;) maybe design a box setup that will allow a small space to be humidified and allow for the fresh air to be sucked through, a separate reservoir for the humidifier and an evaporative cooler to push the air. complicated somewhat but easier on the humidifier and will allow for fresh air being a bit cooler and alot more humid.... just a thought. I raise my humidity alone by 10-15% just by having it in the room, i ducted it into the tent during veg, you may of seen pictures but that would be overkill for me here during night temps.
 

eastcoastmo

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Ha ha ha yeah have to agree mate little ones definitely feel the magic in a room!

Glad to hear your UVB buds are keeping you well toasted too :-)
 

^Slanty

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I too live in a normally very dry climate. This round though, due to my 2 plants getting so massive in my UC setup, humidity is up way higher than normal. Prior, when running a NFT or DWC setup,
my humidity would hover between 30-40%, which was never an issue. Due to it being so low all of the time, I never used to run a fan blowing on the tops of the plants. I only had a small intake fan and my Carbon Filter/fan as the exhaust. Now with this UC setup, my humidity has gone as high as 70%, due to the pure size of the plants! It has forced me to place a top fan on the plants to keep the humidity from forming on top of leaves. As FM has stated though, even though my humidity now fluctuates between 45-60+, it is not an issue at all due to the air exchange I have set up!


I really wish I could post some current pictures, as words just don't do justice! Keep it going FM! Anxiously waiting for updates to drool over!
 

flowamasta

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Ha ha ha yeah have to agree mate little ones definitely feel the magic in a room!

Glad to hear your UVB buds are keeping you well toasted too :-)
My UVB buds is actually pretty much all i got left lol!!! i helped a few people out i couldn't let go without, i know what it's like when your 1 favourite past smoking time can't be filled with your favourite material.... But i got plenty of oil and hash to keep me more than satisfied for the next month :) I'll have even more heads this time so another bonus for the book ;)

I too live in a normally very dry climate. This round though, due to my 2 plants getting so massive in my UC setup, humidity is up way higher than normal. Prior, when running a NFT or DWC setup,
my humidity would hover between 30-40%, which was never an issue. Due to it being so low all of the time, I never used to run a fan blowing on the tops of the plants. I only had a small intake fan and my Carbon Filter/fan as the exhaust. Now with this UC setup, my humidity has gone as high as 70%, due to the pure size of the plants! It has forced me to place a top fan on the plants to keep the humidity from forming on top of leaves. As FM has stated though, even though my humidity now fluctuates between 45-60+, it is not an issue at all due to the air exchange I have set up!


I really wish I could post some current pictures, as words just don't do justice! Keep it going FM! Anxiously waiting for updates to drool over!
Correctamundo :) they don't like fans much when young in veg but in hard flower they take it all :p

can't wait to see your updates my friend :)
 
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