my 3 stages of flower
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oceangreen
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sounds like a gucci mane song
oceangreen
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heath is too much...Now thts some roots.....
Beech
oceangreen
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eh, screw it gotta clean some totes
SOMEBEECH
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azores
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SS (& other experienced fence post aero growers) - Thank you for all of the great info in this thread and in the lb every three wks thread. These have made for some interesting reading over the last months...
I'm wondering if anyone has improved working from seed in these systems. It seems like its ideal to use clones but my operation is going to be micro. Some details on my setup: I'm basically building a stinkbud jr fence post system with some of the mods by ss and ss's nute schedule. I plan to have five sites staggered on two 5" fence posts under a 400w solarstorm led with 400 cfm inline fan for air exchange, no co2 supp. My space - which I have been using for soil grows - is an enclosed bathtub space that is 2.5ftx5ft and 8ft to ceiling. Since I'm in a bathtub, water access and drainage are not a problem. However, this is the only space I can grow in so this will be my seedling, veg, and flower station in one. All for personal medical use so while I'd like to improve yields, what I really want is to grow all different strains each grow and to get the most flavorful and potent meds possible from each try.
So I want to give my seedlings the best chance to make it into the net pots without too much damage or stress. I've seen a lot of different suggestions in these threads - which have been made over several years and may be outdated - so I guess I'm wondering what the best method is to transfer them. Start them in a glass of water over night with a couple spoonfuls of h202. Then into peat pellets, rockwool plugs, or rapid rooters. I've seen people suggest gently pulling them out of the starter media and then into the neoprene collars, and others suggest just dropping the jiffy or rockwool or rr plugs right into the net pots. Could I get pump or sprayer problems by doing that? Others have suggested just allowing them to grow out enough in the paper towel method and then transfer directly into the collars. Any advice greatly appreciated!
I'm wondering if anyone has improved working from seed in these systems. It seems like its ideal to use clones but my operation is going to be micro. Some details on my setup: I'm basically building a stinkbud jr fence post system with some of the mods by ss and ss's nute schedule. I plan to have five sites staggered on two 5" fence posts under a 400w solarstorm led with 400 cfm inline fan for air exchange, no co2 supp. My space - which I have been using for soil grows - is an enclosed bathtub space that is 2.5ftx5ft and 8ft to ceiling. Since I'm in a bathtub, water access and drainage are not a problem. However, this is the only space I can grow in so this will be my seedling, veg, and flower station in one. All for personal medical use so while I'd like to improve yields, what I really want is to grow all different strains each grow and to get the most flavorful and potent meds possible from each try.
So I want to give my seedlings the best chance to make it into the net pots without too much damage or stress. I've seen a lot of different suggestions in these threads - which have been made over several years and may be outdated - so I guess I'm wondering what the best method is to transfer them. Start them in a glass of water over night with a couple spoonfuls of h202. Then into peat pellets, rockwool plugs, or rapid rooters. I've seen people suggest gently pulling them out of the starter media and then into the neoprene collars, and others suggest just dropping the jiffy or rockwool or rr plugs right into the net pots. Could I get pump or sprayer problems by doing that? Others have suggested just allowing them to grow out enough in the paper towel method and then transfer directly into the collars. Any advice greatly appreciated!
oceangreen
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yes i started directly from seed, but you wont need do after a while..
you can start seeds in your cloner.. get bounty paper towel and cut 2" x 2" sqaure. place towel into 2" net pot. the towel will take shape of net pot. cover with neoprene. PLace in cloner and let the cloner run.
After 5 days. the seedling will be long enough to place in neoeprene. So take the seedling out of net cut and slide into neoprene.
and let her go for a week or so in the cloner before moving to veg
that's it
oceangreen
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SS, you never mentioned you topoff schedule for the res. Is it just straight water and ph adjuments until the next res change?
oceangreen
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sorry man, I just burn em in the woods. cant help you there
OLD DUDE
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He said he is using the rails for everything, I think!!! This is what I do for seeds! I do the paper towel method but I put them into a ziplock baggie and hang them so the tap root grows down. You can get a 2 inch tap root and go directly into the neo collars!! The only problem I have ever had with this method is the the root can weave itself in and out of the fibers of the paper towel so just be careful and gently pull it out! I know, that's what she said
i would think that you could use the "Rapid Rooter"plugs, not Jiffy, from start to finish cause they are a neoprene type material and I don't think they would break up. Never tried it so I'm not 100% on it though!!!!!
Any way you could do a cloner hidden in a box or something like that????
superstoner1
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the only time i top off is the last res before harvest to bring ppm down and milk a little longer from the res. rarely will i top the other res's because my ppm stays so consistant, but i never top off nutes, just water.
superstoner1
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i use the jiffy pots to start seeds and leave them in them all the way. i used to remove the plant by washing the dirt away but always noticed it stressed them and growth slowed. i dont worry about the pots bursting, never had one do it.
chunkylonin
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SO much good info going on here.
chunkylonin
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What are you guys growing at the moment that you love,I bought ww and pe but now iam thinking of growing moonshine haze or a cheese.
azores
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Just to clarify: are you referring to the peat pellets with the nets on them? Or actual jiffy pots with some kind of media in them?
azores
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Someday I'll get a cloner up - and a bigger space. But for now it'll have to be from seed, which is cool with me. I like the surprises. Yes, some turn out crap but some great phenos also come up.
superstoner1
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yes, i get confused on the names. its the little jiffy pucks that expand in water. i just found using them them to be easier and less worry or fuss.
superstoner1
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azores, i have never said this to anyone, but, in your case auto flower plants might be best.
oceangreen
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The guy needs a cloner.... no doubt about that..he will realize that sooner or later. why make it harder on your self. the clones will be larger if he does a seed vd taking a cuttling.He said he is using the rails for everything, I think!!! This is what I do for seeds! I do the paper towel method but I put them into a ziplock baggie and hang them so the tap root grows down. You can get a 2 inch tap root and go directly into the neo collars!! The only problem I have ever had with this method is the the root can weave itself in and out of the fibers of the paper towel so just be careful and gently pull it out! I know, that's what she said
i would think that you could use the "Rapid Rooter"plugs, not Jiffy, from start to finish cause they are a neoprene type material and I don't think they would break up. Never tried it so I'm not 100% on it though!!!!!
Any way you could do a cloner hidden in a box or something like that????
but he can do the same thing is the rails... just put the net pot in the rail system, with just water,
or he can stop being lazy and build a good cloner in an hour or so...
