Over 26 dead in school shooting

NLXSK1

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323297104578179271453737596.html

NEWTOWN, Conn.—A shooting at a Connecticut elementary school Friday left the gunman dead and at least one teacher wounded and sent frightened pupils into the parking lot.
The shooter was killed and apparently had two guns, a person with knowledge of the shooting said. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way.
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Associated Press/Newtown BeeConnecticut State Police lead children from the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., following a shooting there Friday.



It wasn't clear how many people were injured at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown.
A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps said a teacher was shot in the foot and taken to Danbury Hospital. Andrea Rynn, a spokeswoman at the hospital, said it had three patients from the school but she didn't have information on the extent or nature of their injuries.
Stephen Delgiadice said his 8-year-old daughter heard two big bangs and teachers told her to get in a corner. His daughter was fine.
"It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Connecticut, which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said.
The superintendent's office said the district had locked down schools in Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City. Schools in neighboring towns also were locked down as a precaution.
State police said Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m. A SWAT team was among the throngs of police to respond.
The White House said President Barack Obama was notified of the shooting.
 

canndo

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The NRA must be squirming. Two sets of killings in two days? How many in the last few months? And gee, no one used knives or poison or chain saws or choking - they all used guns. guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns sure make it easier for psychopaths to kill LOTS of people really fast.
 

nontheist

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The NRA must be squirming. Two sets of killings in two days? How many in the last few months? And gee, no one used knives or poison or chain saws or choking - they all used guns. guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns sure make it easier for psychopaths to kill LOTS of people really fast.
Typical liberal completely ignoring that gun control has never worked in all countries it has been implemented. In fact not does it not only work, violent crimes increase. Criminal for some reason don't act according to law derp derp.
 

NLXSK1

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The NRA must be squirming. Two sets of killings in two days? How many in the last few months? And gee, no one used knives or poison or chain saws or choking - they all used guns. guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns sure make it easier for psychopaths to kill LOTS of people really fast.
It appears from the news that the shooter also killed his mother before going to the school.

Do you honestly believe that a person capable of killing his mother, 18 kids and 7 adults and then killing himself would be concerned about whether the guns he used were legal or not?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The NRA must be squirming. Two sets of killings in two days? How many in the last few months? And gee, no one used knives or poison or chain saws or choking - they all used guns. guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns sure make it easier for psychopaths to kill LOTS of people really fast.
What does the NRA have to do with any of this? Murder is illegal regardless of instrument. Ban guns; get Britain with all its stabbings. And then the spectre of Germany looms. cn
 

canndo

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Typical liberal completely ignoring that gun control has never worked in all countries it has been implemented. In fact not does it not only work, violent crimes increase. Criminal for some reason don't act according to law derp derp.
Which part of my post isn't true? that guns don't kill people? or that every one of the mass killings in the last year were committed with..... guns, not knives, not bombs. Show me some stats from unbiased sources.
 

canndo

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It appears from the news that the shooter also killed his mother before going to the school.

Do you honestly believe that a person capable of killing his mother, 18 kids and 7 adults and then killing himself would be concerned about whether the guns he used were legal or not?

Do you think any of the parents of the children who died cared if the gun was legal or not? The point is that times are tough for you guys.
 

canndo

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What does the NRA have to do with any of this? Murder is illegal regardless of instrument. Ban guns; get Britain with all its stabbings. And then the spectre of Germany looms. cn


How many of these mass shootings have occured in Britain in the last year?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Which part of my post isn't true? that guns don't kill people? or that every one of the mass killings in the last year were committed with..... guns, not knives, not bombs. Show me some stats from unbiased sources.
I take issue with the unstated end of the implied syllogism: that removing guns reduces violence, incl. deadly violence. cn

<edit> I am incorrect. Britain has a lower murder rate than the USA. cn
 

canndo

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I take issue with the unstated end of the implied syllogism: that removing guns reduces violence, incl. deadly violence. cn

removing guns to reduce killing is like removing cars to reduce travel. Still gonna happen but a lot slower.
 

budlover13

King Tut
removing guns to reduce killing is like removing cars to reduce travel. Still gonna happen but a lot slower.
Removing guns is like removing cars to prevent drunk drivers. Nobody drives, we got not drunk driving deaths.

i don't endorse banning tools.
 

canndo

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Removing guns is like removing cars to prevent drunk drivers. Nobody drives, we got not drunk driving deaths.

i don't endorse banning tools.

Dynamite is a tool, should we be selling dynamite to anyone who wants it out of Big 5 and walmart stores? As I said, you can't kill 26 people with a knife. This talk of "tools" is all bullshit when the result of the use of this particular "tool" is 26 dead children. The person could not have killed that many except using explosives or poison but neither he nor any of the most recent shooters used those things.l
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
removing guns to reduce killing is like removing cars to reduce travel. Still gonna happen but a lot slower.
I was incorrect about the murder rate ... but Britain has a rather higher violent crime rate. The right to carry handguns can be argued as a brake on this. An aples/apples comparison? No, but still something that belongs in the debate imo.

And I viscerally agree with Budlover: don't blame/ban the tool. cn
 
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