Hydromorphone

canndo

Well-Known Member
I was given a christmas present of a number of 8 mg hydromorphone tablets.


I know that the bioavailabilty of hydromorphone when eaten varies by individuals from 20 percent to about 50. What is the best way to injest this stuff short of IV or IM?
 

MrEDuck

Well-Known Member
I was given a christmas present of a number of 8 mg hydromorphone tablets.


I know that the bioavailabilty of hydromorphone when eaten varies by individuals from 20 percent to about 50. What is the best way to injest this stuff short of IV or IM?
Rectal would be my choice if you tied my needles behind my back. At least you preserve some of the rush.
 

aknight3

Moderator
Rectal would be my choice if you tied my needles behind my back. At least you preserve some of the rush.

duckman has it right, personally if i were you and i wasnt going to IV, i would just sell them, hydromorphone IMO is only effective intravenous, thats just my 2 though, everyone is different, but there really isnt much of a better rush IMO than 16-20 mg of hydromorph intra-V'ed....mmmmm my mouth is watering..
 

Skuxx

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I've noticed a lot of people that used to get prescribed oxycodone, are now getting prescribed hydromorphone. I think "they" want people to become needle junkies. I live in florida and have seen the switch happen pretty swiftly. Anybody else notice?

The best way is most certainly IV for that. You hardly even catch a buzz snorting or eating them. Never tried rectal.
 

aknight3

Moderator
ive done up to 60 mg hydromorph through nasal and eaten, didnt feel SHIT, i have and had a really high tollerance at the time, but still....its pointless in pill form IMO unless IVed
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
duckman has it right, personally if i were you and i wasnt going to IV, i would just sell them, hydromorphone IMO is only effective intravenous, thats just my 2 though, everyone is different, but there really isnt much of a better rush IMO than 16-20 mg of hydromorph intra-V'ed....mmmmm my mouth is watering..
HA! you and duck have no problem expressing your delight with this particular chemical. I just tried some nasaly and I was pleasantly surprised. The notion I get from this stuff is that it varies very highly from person to person and even from event to event. Some of the recountings I read said they didn't feel nothin. Some said they tried a line and ... nothing. Some of the trip reports lauded this as the most wonderful that could be and of course anyone who had tried it IV marveled at it.

On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being morphine (my all time favorite) and 1 being Tramadol, I'd put that fentanyl at a 6 and this stuff at a 7. The last time I had some of this all I got was tired, I wonder what happened.
 

aknight3

Moderator
like u said i think its highly variable, i enjoy fentanyl very much, i think i would prob have to say that fent is most likley my fav. chemical, closebhind oxymorphone and maybe oxy if u got enough lol
 

canndo

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like u said i think its highly variable, i enjoy fentanyl very much, i think i would prob have to say that fent is most likley my fav. chemical, closebhind oxymorphone and maybe oxy if u got enough lol

Interesting. I didn't find fentanyl that exciting but my wife adores it. I think my mode of injestion leaves something to be desired. As far as the hydromorpone is concerned, I don't much like eating it, but nasal is pretty good, of course if Duck says plug it, I will try that but what I have read says that in this instance, it is no better than swallowing. Of course there are the mechanics involved. hooking down a pill can lead to... hooking down another, but not readily, in other words it can be controled. Plugging it is at leasst for me a one off. If I want more, I will wait a day or more, it is literaly a pain in the ass to continue. Now snorting? well, it is far too easy to simply lay out a bit more, and a bit more, and a bit more. I was wise to split my aquisition with a friend, although he is predominantly a hydrocodine sort of guy who turned his nose up at oxycondone, a number of times but one day he said "hey canndo, what was that? I really really like those", "G! I have been giving you those for the last year and you only now noticed that you like them?"

Now this is not always a bad thing, his fickle tendency, he once aquired 40 quarter grain IR morphine pills. He split them as we are acustomed to doing with our "discoveries" but after a week or so he said he didn't really like "those little yellow pills" and gave me the rest. I had them or a portion of them for over two years - they made for a fine sunday morning treat just before a champaign brunch.

I don't seem to notice any similarity though. One would imagine that oxymorphone would have some similar qualities to oxycodone and hydromorphone might have some of the same efects as hydrocondone but I have yet to detect any parallels.

I'm thinking my wife and i will have a very nice Christmas sitting before the fire, noshing on tiny treats and gazing off into the distance.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
I would like to acetylate some hydromorphone. Bet that smokes like a dream. cn


I had considered such a thing with some of this but I don't know - it seems like there are problems with the potency. working with substances that have effects in the tens of mgs is one thing, but working with stuff in 4 to 8 mg amounts seems like a difficult task. If you were to be able to separate 8 mg from a 50 mg tablet you would barely have enough to see let alone play with.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I had considered such a thing with some of this but I don't know - it seems like there are problems with the potency. working with substances that have effects in the tens of mgs is one thing, but working with stuff in 4 to 8 mg amounts seems like a difficult task. If you were to be able to separate 8 mg from a 50 mg tablet you would barely have enough to see let alone play with.
Maybe it's my lab experience, but I can easily handle tiny amounts. I lament that my beautiful electromechanical analytical balance is no more. It was readable to ten mikes. I would weigh 2.0 and 3.0 mg heroin for smoking ... all the way up to 11 mg before that vial ran out. Glad there wasn't all that much in there. cn
 

aknight3

Moderator
I'm thinking my wife and i will have a very nice Christmas sitting before the fire, noshing on tiny treats and gazing off into the distance.

this is whats its all about really...i can happily say ive been able to get my opiate usage under control as of late, but those little guys can really wreck some shit up, let me tell you...im really lookin forward to the day where i maintain on absolutely zero opiates....but not today...or tomorrow...:lol:
 

testtime

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I was given a christmas present of a number of 8 mg hydromorphone tablets.
I know that the bioavailabilty of hydromorphone when eaten varies by individuals from 20 percent to about 50. What is the best way to injest this stuff short of IV or IM?
Does chewing and holding for a while aid this or hurt it or have no effect?

I've got no tolerance, so I've done it orally many years ago, and enjoyed.

And then once in the hospital had it IVed and then tried to walk. Mistake. I still remember watching the floor come up to meet my face and the amazing wonder I had at the sight of it happening. THUNK.
 
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