PJ Diaz
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Yes, I know this. Unfortunately I don't have a par meter, only a lux meter.
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robert030188
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Like i said it will always be a continuing argument, yes i am high and i've seen yields as good as hps with cfls....you can keep trying to prove a point, when i was simply giving the man the opinion he asked for. Done with this "cfl vs hps thread" you will stick with what works and i'll do what works for me, oh and btw from 20 inches away a 23 watt cfl will produce 80 PAR. So 8 at 20 in. away would produce 640...dont need a light meter when someone has already written this up at another forum. And you just compared 1 23 watt too one 200w hps of course it'll be stronger than one 23w cfl. done with the off topic argument
PJ Diaz
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Whatever thread you are going off at another forum is wrong. You said that a 23w cfl will deliver 3300 lumens at 2 inches. I already proved that wrong. Besides lumens are lumens, it really doesn't matter what distance you measure at. Lux is a measurement of intensity. Lumens = lux/square meter. You can't increase lumens by moving it closer, only lux. My point is that the intensity of a 200w MH @ 8 inches will exceed that of a 23w cfl one inch away.
I guess my real point is that all your beliefs about light are incorrect, and need a thorough reexamination.
You're not gonna get a QP dry off 8 23w CFLs. Prove me wrong.
Your right, this will obviously never end. That's because CFL growers need to feel good about their decision to use substandard lighting, so they defend without question.
Its cool dude, I'm sure that you'll be happy with your harvest. I just don't want you making noobs think that cfl is somehow better than hid. Its not.
robert030188
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When i can i'll do a side by side study with the same straine on both, one all cfl and one hps....if i produce significantly more on hps i'll admit i was wrong.
Kite High
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save you the trouble...you are wrong...but ah you will see..also why would you want to fight the moving and heat of all those cfl's?
robert030188
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No heat, but im hard headed so i have to find out for myself....like i said im not above admitting i was wrong but i gotta do it first.
robert030188
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Yeah i tweaked my v+b grow its at 16-25-42 now
robert030188
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Gonna add some bone meal to raise p a lil more....so i'll be at 16-36-42 when im done and she's been takin 16-25-42 like a champ so i think she can take it
PJ Diaz
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Adding bone meal is pointless. It taken months and months for that stuff to break down to a usable form for the plants. You will have harvested, dried, cured, and smoked the harvest before the bone meal becomes a usable plant nutrient.
You should add bone meal to your compost or outdoor garden 6 months before planting instead.
PJ Diaz
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Interesting. Did you supplement either base with anything else?
I'm currently running one G13-Haze plant with V+B alongside a couple others cloned from the same mother at the same time, and the V+B one is doing better than my standard regimen (Botanicare PureBlend Pro, Hydroplex, Instant Kharma, Pro-Tek, and a home-blend carbo load) in coco.
PJ Diaz
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Just save yourself some time and energy; buy a light meter, and don't look back!
robert030188
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Preciate ya PJdiaz we all work toward the same goal 
robert030188
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K thanks never done bone meal so didn't know glad i haven't bought
It yet...what would you reccomend for P alone?
robert030188
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Also i use super thrive throughout flower...i believe V+B is a good base nute to use but i like to play with it a little
PJ Diaz
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To be honest, I'm not really sure. I use Hydroplex as a PK booster, but that obviously has both P and K.
captainmorgan
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Thought I read somewhere that something in super thrive was not good for flower and to only use it in veg.
PJ Diaz
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Some people do say that. There's so much debate about superthrive it's ridiculous. Personally I never use it. Kelp is better as has most of the same stuff naturally.
captainmorgan
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I used only V+B for my very first grow ever with 4 different strains and had two growers I know complement me on how healthy the plants were and the yield I got.If you had bad results using it you may have had other problems that had nothing to do with the V+ B.
robert030188
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Captain do a side by side doing one ST til flush and one til flower...see what it does for you
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