Is there canned butane w/o propane and iso butane?

[crazyhazey]

After doing more and more research on BHO it seems "filtered" or "refined" doesn't have too much of an effect on the product but rather the iso butane and propane contents(ive also been hearing sulfur is added to most cans so they give off a smell if they are leaking). Ive looked through most companies and it looks like XIKAR(ive heard it left the least residuals when mirror tested) may be one of the cleanest out there, though i haven't looked into almost every butane company so don't take my word, hell i cant even find it down here so id probably be forced to order an entire case before knowing how my products gonna turn out. It also seems like the companies that come out of Korea seem to be less reliable and more tainted with impurities. So is there canned butane w/ mostly N-butane content out there or am i going to be forced to buy a tamisium extractor to do pure N-butane runs? Thanks everyone, +rep for any help, sources are appreciated.

 

[match box]

I think victor (not sure on spelling) it one of the best. I don't think you are going to find anything that is pure. match

 

[racerboy71]

I think victor (not sure on spelling) it one of the best. I don't think you are going to find anything that is pure. match

vector....

 

[crazyhazey]

I think victor (not sure on spelling) it one of the best. I don't think you are going to find anything that is pure. match

it seems vector and power left the same amount of residuals with the mirror test, xikar left less, so there has to be cleaner butane than vector.

 

[crazyhazey]

Heres a list of butanes that made the zero impurities list, unfortunately Vector didnt make it.

Brands from the Keen World marketing site:
Colibri
Colton
Cora
CTC
Davidoff
David Ross
Dunhill
IMCO
K2
Newport
Sarome
Silver Match
Unilight
Win

 

[Vincent VonBlown]

View attachment 2451495I don't make oil with butane, for the same reason I wouldn't use gasoline. My logic is I wouldn't drink gas or butane, so I wouldn't want to use them to make a product I'm taking into my body. Especially when the product is easly made with a friendly solvent like grain alcahol.

You just grind up some "dry" bud, trim etc.
You take the size bowl (corelware or glass) you want for how much product you intend to extract. Then dump in so grain alcahol. The higher end oil automatically climbs up the side of the bowl. You just scrape it up with a flexy blade, and smoke it.



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[racerboy71]

View attachment 2451503View attachment 2451495I don't make oil with butane, for the same reason I wouldn't use gasoline. My logic is I wouldn't drink gas or butane, so I wouldn't want to use them to make a product I'm taking into my body. Especially when the product is easly made with a friendly solvent like grain alcahol.

You just grind up some "dry" bud, trim etc.
You take the size bowl (corelware or glass) you want for how much product you intend to extract. Then dump in so grain alcahol. The higher end oil automatically climbs up the side of the bowl. You just scrape it up with a flexy blade, and smoke it.



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you're not ingesting any butane in butane hash.. most of it evaporates off, and the rest gets pulled out in the purge imo..

 

[Vincent VonBlown]

If you want the best end Honey, screen and sift your bud before you use the solvent.

Most BHO is made using the whole bud or scraps, so your getting a lot of more or less useless oil, that is golden in color but pretty much filler imo.

 

[Vincent VonBlown]

Bubble hash is also a very good candidate to solventatize. Although it's easier to make smaller amounts of sift then it is bubble hash. I use a steel screen, and a ladies nylon stocking to produce sift.

But I really must emphasize! don't make oil/wax with butane. As it's not just a matter of removing the butane, or what is or isn't (propane etc.) in the butane. The fact of the matter is, the product is structurally changed from being solvented. Even the grain alcahol solvent process, changes the product to a degree. But I have found it to be a safe process.

 

[stumps]

impurities gas off with the butane very little of anything is left. I myself like the butane method.

 

[Vincent VonBlown]

It's not a matter of burning/removing impurities... You shouldn't have to be doing something like that in the first place...

And what would make you think, that impurties, that can't be removed in a lab. Would just evaporate when it dries?

 

[stumps]

You can buy 99.99 pure butane. But why would it be any worse the using a butane lighter. Hell I bet I've used butane lighters longer then you've been alive. prove me wrong. I could have missed something. Here is the health risks of the gas it's self.
Inhalation of butane can cause euphoria, drowsiness, narcosis, asphyxia, cardiac arrhythmia, temporary memory loss and frostbite, which can result in death from asphyxiation and ventricular fibrillation. Butane is the most commonly misused volatile substance in the UK, and was the cause of 52% of "solvent related" deaths in 2000.[SUP][10][/SUP] By spraying butane directly into the throat, the jet of fluid can cool rapidly to −20 °C by expansion, causing prolonged laryngospasm.[SUP][11][/SUP] "Sudden sniffer's death" syndrome, first described by Bass in 1970,[SUP][12][/SUP] is the most common single cause of "solvent related" death, resulting in 55% of known fatal cases.

 

[crazyhazey]

you're not ingesting any butane in butane hash.. most of it evaporates off, and the rest gets pulled out in the purge imo..

exactly, i do two overnight heat purges and vacuum more times than i can count(still got the mity vac so its a pain in the ass, at least pumpin it up is a good workout for your arms lol), however i have been hearing vector, power and plenty of other companies not on this list add other perfumes to let the user know if theres a leak, that shits a little harder to get out but ive been hearing good things about using ethanol to get even more impurities out so i might look into that. makes me wonder if a high pressure vac wouldnt get it out though, im stuck using a brake bleeder for now though.

 

[crazyhazey]

If you want the best end Honey, screen and sift your bud before you use the solvent.

Most BHO is made using the whole bud or scraps, so your getting a lot of more or less useless oil, that is golden in color but pretty much filler imo.

i have used keiff(at least thats what i think you mean by screen and sift, correct me if im wrong) before but not with the greatest results, seeing as you need some air to travel through youll always need that plant material and pure keiff runs will most likely clog up your screen and make your extractor blow up(i gotta glass one now too so im extra careful). i do use a really fine bubble bag as a filter though so i dont think much "filler" is in there seeing as butane evaporates almost completely however there is a white film left over, sometimes very little is left and sometimes theres more depending on the purity of butane you used.

 

[crazyhazey]

You can buy 99.99 pure butane. But why would it be any worse the using a butane lighter. Hell I bet I've used butane lighters longer then you've been alive. prove me wrong. I could have missed something. Here is the health risks of the gas it's self.
Inhalation of butane can cause euphoria, drowsiness, narcosis, asphyxia, cardiac arrhythmia, temporary memory loss and frostbite, which can result in death from asphyxiation and ventricular fibrillation. Butane is the most commonly misused volatile substance in the UK, and was the cause of 52% of "solvent related" deaths in 2000.[SUP][10][/SUP] By spraying butane directly into the throat, the jet of fluid can cool rapidly to −20 °C by expansion, causing prolonged laryngospasm.[SUP][11][/SUP] "Sudden sniffer's death" syndrome, first described by Bass in 1970,[SUP][12][/SUP] is the most common single cause of "solvent related" death, resulting in 55% of known fatal cases.

ive only found huge tanks of it, supposedly you need a weird nozzle or a tamisium extractor and some even told me you need to be licensed to buy it but i could probably find a way around it if i tried. and lighting bowls with a butane lighter(most bics have low grade butane, whatd you expect for $1.50 lol) is probably worse than the impurities in BHO, unless your using hemp wick youll probably encounter some butane inhalation when smoking. why im probably converting to edibles soon.

 

[mitri4]

more about butane mark (read before iso extraction)

 

[oilmkr420]

I use that same foundation, but instead of using grain alcohol soaking in a bowl, I pressurize it w co2 in a vessel made to handle that kind of pressure then heat it up. There is way less chlorophyll than that of the old school methods that serve as a substitution for the harsher conditions that are inherit w BHO. It is a O.G. honey oil recipe.

View attachment 2451503View attachment 2451495I don't make oil with butane, for the same reason I wouldn't use gasoline. My logic is I wouldn't drink gas or butane, so I wouldn't want to use them to make a product I'm taking into my body. Especially when the product is easly made with a friendly solvent like grain alcahol.

You just grind up some "dry" bud, trim etc.
You take the size bowl (corelware or glass) you want for how much product you intend to extract. Then dump in so grain alcahol. The higher end oil automatically climbs up the side of the bowl. You just scrape it up with a flexy blade, and smoke it.



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[mitri4]

we must evaporate better

 

[crazyhazey]

I use that same foundation, but instead of using grain alcohol soaking in a bowl, I pressurize it w co2 in a vessel made to handle that kind of pressure then heat it up. There is way less chlorophyll than that of the old school methods that serve as a substitution for the harsher conditions that are inherit w BHO. It is a O.G. honey oil recipe.

damn sounds complicated but if your avatar is the product that looks pretty good. how much is the vessel you use?

 

[stumps]

Looks like I was off a few points best I can find at nor labs is 99.5% pure.