NRA wants elementery schools to be the foundation of a police state.

[desert dude]

We have punishment for violent crime so why is that alone not enough to stop these things and why the hell not require background checks on all gun sales including private sales?

What will we lose by mandating that all sales be public record? We do it for Cars and Trucks plus a lot more.

Freedom. The right to be left alone. The right to not have some creep looking over our shoulder as we go about our daily lives. The surety that when the goose steppers finally decide that "now is the right time to confiscate the guns and begin the cleansing process", they won't be able to find all the guns.

I will probably regret responding to this silliness.

 

[Ernst]

There are already background checks for guns. Stiffer sentences for possessing a gun aren't going to do much more than encourage people to use them - the second you actually USE a gun, your facing attempted murder, which generally can carry a life sentence.

And I don't think a guy who commits 15 counts of first-degree murder cares about a sentence for firearm possession. Most people (not hunters) want guns to protect themselves in their houses. Guess if you don't own anything and live in the city, that might be hard to realize.

Not for gun shows and private sales.

 

[cannabineer]

Not for gun shows and private sales.

I thought you lived in CA like me. When's the last time you bought a gun at show without the paperwork? cn

 

[Ernst]

Freedom. The right to be left alone. The right to not have some creep looking over our shoulder as we go about our daily lives. The surety that when the goose steppers finally decide that "now is the right time to confiscate the guns and begin the cleansing process", they won't be able to find all the guns.

I will probably regret responding to this silliness.

I appreciate you already know that this pile "of killing you are trying to make light of" is already a lost war here.
I suspect you still felt like you needed to show your fellow "Right to Kill Babies in order to protect you version of the Second Amendment" friends that you are willing to smear this political shit on your face and dance around the truth too!

We need National Gun Control and Mental Health Care for all!

 

[cannabineer]

I appreciate you already know that this pile "of killing you are trying to make light of" is already a lost war here.
I suspect you still felt like you needed to show your fellow "Right to Kill Babies in order to protect you version of the Second Amendment" friends that you are willing to smear this political shit on your face and dance around the truth too!

We need National Gun Control and Mental Health Care for all!

What guarantee would you provide that National Gun Control can be reversed when it is found to not have delivered on the promise of less violence? None. The Ratchet only tightens. Thus those of us who have thought hard about this (raises hand) oppose "reasonable" gun control measures. They conceal irreversibility. cn

 

[desert dude]

I appreciate you already know that this pile "of killing you are trying to make light of" is already a lost war here.
I suspect you still felt like you needed to show your fellow "Right to Kill Babies in order to protect you version of the Second Amendment" friends that you are willing to smear this political shit on your face and dance around the truth too!

We need National Gun Control and Mental Health Care for all!

Just like I thought. I regret responding to this silliness. Carry on, Ernst.

 

[Ernst]

I don't agree and I tell you why.
Lets lock the doors so no one can run away from the bad man, but instead just be a sitting duck. You know those kids knew what was coming for them, they wrote notes saying goodbye, they had time to think about being shot because they could not get away, teachers already locked the doors, but he shot out the locks.

If you are a rampaging maniac hell bent on killing as many as possible, shooting fish in a barrel is much easier than shooting fish in the sea.

Let see what Rush Limbaugh said..

[h=1]Limbaugh Says Mass Shooters "All Are Liberals" Then Says, "I Take That Back"[/h]

[video]http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/12/21/limbaugh-says-mass-shooters-all-are-liberals-th/191955[/video]

It's all a liberal plot. Babies get murdered and it's a plot against Conservatives and the Tea party.

Man it is time to stop this political bullshit and pass National Gun Law reform starting with Background checks for ALL sales in ALL States.

 

[Ernst]

Just like I thought. I regret responding to this silliness. Carry on, Ernst.

I simply saw you making sure you had an exit before you invested anything in this conversation.. So now I am you reason to piss off. So piss off.

I simply find any of you who are trying ti diminish the horror of these shootings as horrible people. I can understand Rush Limbaugh.. I mean Hate for profit Limbaugh but where the hell is the Right's Humanity with it's Cold Dead Hands?

We can change things with Background checks for all gun sales Nationally.
We cab change things with requiring Gun locks and secure gun lock key safes.

We can change things.

You know belittle me all you want but I got all of you by the political balls on this one. Unless you are saying shooting babies is the price of Freedom.

Remember these are five and six year olds who paid for our current laws with their lives. Oh but you already have your safe exit.. Bye..

 

[Mindmelted]

All BS that you beleive to be true.

 

[Mr Neutron]

Australia and England are police states? Do you seriously believe you're going to stop govt tanks with your pistol?

What are you going to stop them with? Harsh language?

 

[budlover13]

I appreciate you already know that this pile "of killing you are trying to make light of" is already a lost war here.
I suspect you still felt like you needed to show your fellow "Right to Kill Babies in order to protect you version of the Second Amendment" friends that you are willing to smear this political shit on your face and dance around the truth too!

We need National Gun Control and Mental Health Care for all!

Right to kill babies lol.

 

[Mr Neutron]

And now this thread has the Politics Forum's Seal of Approval..

So are the Gun rights just a ploy on killing those not like the Whites Who Built America! Are we secretly arguing for the right to arm mobs and shoot black people when hurricanes strike like Katrina ??

Is this why we will not allow background checks on private sales?

Cold Dead Hands are what those Five and Six year olds have today!

And Have a nice Christmas to you and yours..

You're quick to politicize a tragedy but slow to rescue the millions of 5 and 6 yr old kids that are alive and will grow up with a massive debt burden attached to their future. What's worse, death or slavery?

 

[budlover13]

And now this thread has the Politics Forum's Seal of Approval..

So are the Gun rights just a ploy on killing those not like the Whites Who Built America! Are we secretly arguing for the right to arm mobs and shoot black people when hurricanes strike like Katrina ??

Is this why we will not allow background checks on private sales?

Cold Dead Hands are what those Five and Six year olds have today!

And Have a nice Christmas to you and yours..

Lol @ the race card.

 

[Mr Neutron]

I have yet to see anyone suggest all guns be taken away, yea some may want that but the average person is not suggesting that, I think we can all agree it won't happen at least in our lifetime.

So, as long as it doesn't happen in OUR lifetime, it's OK?

Its the dishonest intellect that gets me.... blame movies, video games, prescription drugs, the media, lack of God, music....everything but guns. Every country on the planet has these same issues yet they're not shooting each other by the tens of thousands every year. How do you explain that?

Every country has the same issues? Blaming anything, movies, music, even guns for the violence is a waste of time.

 

[Mindmelted]

So, as long as it doesn't happen in OUR lifetime, it's OK?



Every country has the same issues? Blaming anything, movies, music, even guns for the violence is a waste of time.

BadDog40 seems to be a fucking dumb dog.

 

[Mr Neutron]

We need National Gun Control and Mental Health Care for all!

Seig Heil!

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Ernst, go screw yourself. If you don't like guns, don't get one.

Where have I heard that line before? Oh that's right! From lefty nitwits like yourself about abortion. Why doesn't that logic work with guns, but does with abortion?

 

[Red1966]

How do you suggest we punish the mother?

Dig her up and kill her again.

 

[Red1966]

You're quick to politicize a tragedy but slow to rescue the millions of 5 and 6 yr old kids that are alive and will grow up with a massive debt burden attached to their future. What's worse, death or slavery?

Death.........

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Dig her up and kill her again.

If we don't have guns, how do we kill zombie mothers killed by guns? Think of the children!