I think flushing is a myth heres why

[Ninjabowler]

theres only one plant there. You can hardly see the one in the back lmfao

And its still got 4-5 weeks left

 

[Ninjabowler]

And its still got 4-5 weeks left

Its at least five feet wide

 

[Uncle Pirate]

Cool, you have a big plant and a little plant. Good job. Again, this isn't the topic, but I grow different strains than you. I don't focus on high yielding cash croppers. But I guarantee that I optimize the yield on them fuckers. Also, I didn't start the N debate, your buddy did. I've mentioned more than once that it was unrelated to flushing, or are you blind?

This thread has wasted too much of my time. I think I learned my lesson voicing my opinion on flushing. It's like religion. Later people.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

it is plant biology, its all related . . . . .

 

[Uncle Pirate]

it is plant biology, its all related . . . . .

Then grow your weed using a lawn book. Sure the info is all related but not compatible. Peace.

 

[shagratt]

if u are using NON organic nutes and not flushing, you are giving several people allergic reactions.... My whole nervous system becomes tense.....

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

im getting 2.25 per 1k light i use low N in flower, i get very nice returns and very chronic flowers here is a second canopy nug

these girls were in 1 gallon pots and i finished harvest with just water for 14-16 days got 44grams of the second photo and 56 of the first, im pretty happy with it . . . what size pots did have no flush high N guy

oh and High N is a proven scientific fact at decreasing yield and potency, in many crops there are so many studies on it that its laughable that you dont know it

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Then grow your weed using a lawn book. Sure the info is all related but not compatible. Peace.

i dont use a book to grow i use the scientific method, observe conclude repeat

plus having read lots of random info on horticulture and botany helps . . . . maybe you should go . . . .try to educate yourself and come back

 

[Ninjabowler]

Cool, you have a big plant and a little plant. Good job. Again, this isn't the topic, but I grow different strains than you. I don't focus on high yielding cash croppers. But I guarantee that I optimize the yield on them fuckers. Also, I didn't start the N debate, your buddy did. I've mentioned more than once that it was unrelated to flushing, or are you blind?

I have two big plants. They were gifted to me. I didnt try to pick cash croppers. Im looking to learn, not read posts full of insults. Ive said before that you are probably really good at what you do, its a shame you debate with your fists up. Happy new year.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

ninja do not listen to this guy, you do not want high N in your crops in flower, and if this assertion of his grasp of horticulture is any indication of the rest of his knowledge . . id say you have a better chance by yourself, you seem to be able to sift through the BS

i like to read maximium yield and go from there with terms or tech they write about.

heres something i saw on another site was a fun read
Interesting Hungarian study
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Bócsa, P. Máthé, and L. Hangyel

GATE "Fleischmann R." Research Institute, Kompolt 3356, Hungary


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Bócsa, I., P. Máthé, and L. Hangyel 1997. Effect of nitrogen on tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content in hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) leaves at different positions. Journal of the International Hemp Association 4(2): 78 -79. The effect of different levels of nitrogen fertilizer, of physiological age of leaves and of the interaction between these factors on the Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content of leaves from different positions on the hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) plant were analyzed by gas liquid chromatography. High nitrogen levels reduced the THC content of leaves, and older leaves contained less THC than younger ones. There was no significant interaction between these two factors.


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Introduction
Hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) is a traditional and important raw material for the textile industry and is currently of interest as a wood fiber supplement in the paper industry (de Meijer and van der Werf 1994). A significant increase in cultivation of hemp in Europe is anticipated for future fiber production. Furthermore, drug-type Cannabis may play an important role in future therapeutics (Clarke and Pate 1994.). However, since one of its cannabinoid compounds is Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive agent of the plant, its cultivation is presently limited. Breeders have developed low-THC and high-fiber content varieties, but some of these still contain a THC concentration verging on the EU limit for cultivation subsidy in Europe (de Meijer et al. 1992).
Since hemp has a high nitrogen (N) requirement, it is important to determine the relationship between N fertilization and THC content, and (for the purpose of analytical sampling) the interaction between N fertilizer and leaf position, in relation of leaf THC content.
Cannabinoid content of the leaves is known to decrease gradually from the top to the bottom of the plant (Hemphill et al. 1980). Nitrogen content in vegetative parts of the plant has been thought to correlate positively with its THC content (Coffman and Gentner 1975, Haney and Kutscheid 1973).

http://www.druglibrary.net/olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha4207.html

 

[Uncle Pirate]

i dont use a book to grow i use the scientific method, observe conclude repeat

plus having read lots of random info on horticulture and botany helps . . . . maybe you should go . . . .try to educate yourself and come back

I agree random info on horticulture helps, I've done plenty of reading. But you can't take the same info on lawns and think it all applies to cannabis as well. You already know this I'm certain, but I should throw in that genetics play a huge role in how much N P or K a plant wants in flowering. So while you might have a plant that doesn't care for a whole lot of N during flowering, others do. Other species of plants aren't as diverse. And go ahead and talk shit to me Sam, in another thread you seemed to be under the impression that if someone got PM in flowering they were "fucked". And continued to imply that there weren't any safe ways to treat pm in flowering. You should get educated in some areas.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

when looking for generalizations on how to have a base nutrient recipe . . . . . high N is on the kind of mindset of, you can add more but to much will fuck you up worse than to little

 

[Uncle Pirate]

when looking for generalizations on how to have a base nutrient recipe . . . . . high N is on the kind of mindset of, you can add more but to much will fuck you up worse than to little

No shit? Really? And I don't pummel my plants with N. I didn't even bring the nitrogen subject up.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

im not sure who brought it up matters . . does it?

i use low N, i flush for 2 week min and i get 2.25 (with 1k's)a light with potency always at its pinnacle, i run similar genetics within my own circle of growers i see there results and my own, i dont use Co2 or PGRs and i use ch elated nutrients as a base with organic additives, in coco peat mix

i get most of my finished product reviewed, i dont have to say its good i know it is
some nice grapefruit/cherry smelling smoke, boltfire

this pheno is the plant on the right

burnt, taken a week early and given pk boosters at day 21 . . . . . . . all things homebrewer and UB will say makes bad pot . . . look even yellow dying leaves , but the product is bomb, had it reviewed last week scored in the 80's by a reviewer who never scores bud high then 90

 

[Uncle Pirate]

im not sure who brought it up matters . . does it?

You said don't listen to this guy (referring to me) as if I'm telling that dude to douse his plants with N. It does matter.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

your telling him not to learn because its not what you do . . . . . thats not very responsible of you to say as advice to a first time grower

each grower need sto tailer there method to their environment , not one copy cat scenario will work perfectly, until tuned to the need s of the environment and genetics

no one way is thekey to teh cannabis universe.so to advise someone to not do something cause UB or HB dont is neglectful

 

[Uncle Pirate]

Not once did I tell him not to learn. Also, you just repeated the same shit I've said already. Never did I say one size fits all. The UB thread was an example, on high N in flower. Never said it was a set in stone way of doing things. Keep struggling to find false shit to use against me.

You already know this I'm certain, but I should throw in that genetics play a huge role in how much N P or K a plant wants in flowering. So while you might have a plant that doesn't care for a whole lot of N during flowering, others do.

your telling him not to learn because its not what you do . . . . . thats not very responsible of you to say as advice to a first time grower

each grower need sto tailer there method to their environment , not one copy cat scenario will work perfectly, until tuned to the need s of the environment and genetics

no one way is thekey to teh cannabis universe.so to advise someone to not do something cause UB or HB dont is neglectful

 

[Ninjabowler]

I get alot of marijuana for our store (tons by now).... from alot of different growers....I dont know if its due to not flushing or what but...

when vaporizing the same strain... grown from clones... in sunshine and hydro... there is 2 distinct different tastes......one is the natural taste of the herb.. one is kinda chemically

I can always tell just by taste alone... what smoke was grown with its roots in water and which one had a buffer

Thats what ive heard to thanks for the info

 

[homebrewer]

burnt, taken a week early and given pk boosters at day 21 . . . . . . . all things homebrewer and UB will say makes bad pot . . . look even yellow dying leaves , but the product is bomb,

Healthy plants produce the best meds and those plants look like they had a hard life. If you had fed those plants correctly, you'd have kept your fan leaves, subsequently yielded more, and produced a 'higher scoring product'. It's too bad too because she looks like a potentially nice strain.

PM me your dude's contact info, I'll have him review some of my 'bad pot' . I'm serious though.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I grow in hydro, not organic, and don't flush. My weed is great, I never get any complaints, I smoke with other experienced growers, never any complaints from them either, just compliments. Maybe noobs that overfeed the shit out of their plants need to flush, due to the excess nitrogen which ends with more chlorophyll. You have the best around eh? I never take anyone seriously that makes those kind of claims. I've noticed people that don't have a whole lot of experience have a habit of saying shit like that. Fact is, you more than likely don't.

All you people that think you can taste chems, you're crazy. It's all in your head, or you're smoking on shit that hasn't been dried/cured properly, or pulled to early, or is just shitty genetics. If your shit burns funny and has black ash, it's because it's not dry. If your shit sparks and pops, its because you spray shit on your plants, and/or have bugs. Not a single scientific study has been posted that proves cannabis stores harmful chemicals from nutes in the buds. None. And your own biased taste buds don't count as a study. The human mind is easily fooled by itself. The Placebo Effect. Why don't tomato growers flush? 99.9% of a tomato is composed of water, wouldn't a tomato taste like nutes?

There is one chemical that can be stored by plants, phosphorous. More so than any other. Not uncommonly, bloom boosters tend to have excessive amounts. I'm pretty sure it's more commonly associated with the harsh tasting weed than anything else (other than overfertilized shit which we all know tastes like shit due to lockouts causing chemicals to remain where they aren't supposed to be).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.