it's Obamas fault

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
On those rare instances I do smoke, yes it is only the best. But the statement was that our every decision was controlled by the government and I take issue with this broadly painted complaint that so often goes unexamined.

My decision to post this was not controlled by my government, nor is my descision to break open a bag of seaweed snacks for lunch.
But your choice to post on this forum anonymously as most of us do is not a result of government? Your morning piss? 1.6 liter government mandated toilet? I could go on and on and on....peace.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Again, you aren't getting the point. There currently is no presidential "candidate" now is there. Popular sentiment regarding the current direction of this country means little, the source of the poll means less.
No YOU don't get the point... Left/Right means nothing! More misdirection for the masses. Everyone gets so caught up with Red vs Blue, forgetting your ALL Red, Blue & White.
 

fb360

Active Member
Again, you aren't getting the point. There currently is no presidential "candidate" now is there. Popular sentiment regarding the current direction of this country means little, the source of the poll means less.
Actually I think he was talking about how you try to forcefully pin me as someone who "spout the most repeated republican talking points and the most recent Fox distorted "facts".", when I have done no such thing.

Why not try to stay on topic instead of invoking an irrelevant statement/argument.

No YOU don't get the point... Left/Right means nothing! More misdirection for the masses. Everyone gets so caught up with Red vs Blue, forgetting your ALL Red, Blue & White.
Yup
 

echelon1k1

New Member
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That isn't how it works and you know it. Were that mission have gone to shit he would have himself be placed on the fireing line. Carter was blamed for his failure to retrieve the hostages, Reagan was lauded for saving them - Carter wasn't on the helicopter and Reagan brought no weapon into Iran.

This is all constant nonsense, the leaders of any enterprise are praised for the accomplishments of their charges and brought into question when those enterprises fail.

Oh, except for Obama, who gets no credit unless he and he alone blows Bin Laden's head off. In this case everyone BUT him deserves credit right?
The word's SEAL TEAM SIX should never have been uttered. Hollywood should not have been given access to red teams mission planner.

JSOC came from the ashes of desert one. It was raised in direct response to eagle claw - so theres no excuse more than two decades on...
 

drolove

Well-Known Member
ok well anywho heres a good video explaining it in a little depth. 16 and a half mins. watch, listen, learn. and btw THIS is not my source but good info on this ban.

[video=youtube;JDglpt8hpyg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDglpt8hpyg&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
sorry didnt add the vid to this till just now
 

echelon1k1

New Member
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That isn't how it works and you know it. Were that mission have gone to shit he would have himself be placed on the fireing line. Carter was blamed for his failure to retrieve the hostages, Reagan was lauded for saving them - Carter wasn't on the helicopter and Reagan brought no weapon into Iran.

This is all constant nonsense, the leaders of any enterprise are praised for the accomplishments of their charges and brought into question when those enterprises fail.

Oh, except for Obama, who gets no credit unless he and he alone blows Bin Laden's head off. In this case everyone BUT him deserves credit right?
You'd also know that the descision to use the naval rotary wing was made by JCS & the White House - even with heavy opposition from the operators, the Navy wanted to be in the game.

So if politics had not inserted itself, desert one might never have occured. Why do you think 160th flies them around now...
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Don't forget gitmo and drone strikes!
Yes i blame Obama for GITMO as well
He should of gone against congress who not only blocked him from transferring the prisoners
but bragged about it as well

And those evil drones that have taken out terrorists without a single loss of american life
 

TroncoChe

Active Member
Yes i blame Obama for GITMO as well
He should of gone against congress who not only blocked him from transferring the prisoners
but bragged about it as well

And those evil drones that have taken out terrorists without a single loss of american life
So the president can bomb country's whenever he likes but can't close a military torture site? And those evil drones have killed american citizen children as well as non citizen children. Your such a peace loving hippie huh.
 

woody333333

Well-Known Member
So the president can bomb country's whenever he likes but can't close a military torture site? And those evil drones have killed american citizen children as well as non citizen children. Your such a peace loving hippie huh.
what children are these drones killing?
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Yes, all the innocent lives that would be saved if spree killers had to load %40 more often. That, and the fact that if they pass it tomorrow it will be 20 years before the grandfathered mags become hard to come by.

That's right damn it, we want a fix to this mass shooting problem NOW, we can't wait 20 years, but.... we don't have anything to offer except arming teachers and putting retired guards at the front door of junior high schools.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
So the president can bomb country's whenever he likes but can't close a military torture site? And those evil drones have killed american citizen children as well as non citizen children. Your such a peace loving hippie huh.
What american children?

Oh you mean al jihadi who proclaimed he wanted to be a martyr and was collateral damage in the car he was riding in with another jihadi?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
[h=1]Anwar al Awlaki's son hoped 'to attain martyrdom as my father attained it'[/h] By Bill RoggioDecember 8, 2011

Anwar al Awlaki's son said he hoped "to attain martyrdom as my father attained it" just hours before he was killed in a US Predator airstrike in Yemen in mid-October, according to a journalist who sympathizes with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
Abdul Rahman al Awlaki, Anwar's 16-year-old son and an American citizen, made the statement to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula's emir of the city of Azzam in Shabwa province. Azzan is one of several Yemeni cities currently under AQAP control.
"His sadness reached its peak after the American planes assassinated his father," said Abdul Razzaq al Jamal, a Yemeni journalist from Al Wasat, according to a statement posted on jihadist forums that was translated by the SITE Intelligence Group. Jamal spent weeks with AQAP in the Zinjibar area and elsewhere in southern Yemen, and wrote articles that sympathized with the terror group's attempts to control the region.
"But when he said to the Emir [Leader] of the city of Azzam, 'I hope to attain martyrdom as my father attained it,' it did not come to his mind that this will happen, and just one day after he said it. This actually happened. The son joined the father in another American raid that came only two weeks apart from the one that assassinated his father," Jamal continued.
Jamal said that AQAP members referred to Abdul Rahman, as "Usayyid," or the lion's cub, and intimated that Abdul Rahman would one day replace his father.
"The word 'usayyid' is the diminutive form of the word 'assad [lion],' and in this name is
a reference to an Arab proverb: 'This cub is from that lion,'" Jamal said.
Jamal also said that Abdul Rahman's death was intentionally planned by the US "so that America would not be afflicted in the future with another Awlaki of the same type as Sheikh Anwar."




Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/12/anwar_al_awlakis_son.php#ixzz2Grlhu7i6
 

TroncoChe

Active Member
Anwar al Awlaki's son hoped 'to attain martyrdom as my father attained it'

By Bill RoggioDecember 8, 2011

Anwar al Awlaki's son said he hoped "to attain martyrdom as my father attained it" just hours before he was killed in a US Predator airstrike in Yemen in mid-October, according to a journalist who sympathizes with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
Abdul Rahman al Awlaki, Anwar's 16-year-old son and an American citizen, made the statement to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula's emir of the city of Azzam in Shabwa province. Azzan is one of several Yemeni cities currently under AQAP control.
"His sadness reached its peak after the American planes assassinated his father," said Abdul Razzaq al Jamal, a Yemeni journalist from Al Wasat, according to a statement posted on jihadist forums that was translated by the SITE Intelligence Group. Jamal spent weeks with AQAP in the Zinjibar area and elsewhere in southern Yemen, and wrote articles that sympathized with the terror group's attempts to control the region.
"But when he said to the Emir [Leader] of the city of Azzam, 'I hope to attain martyrdom as my father attained it,' it did not come to his mind that this will happen, and just one day after he said it. This actually happened. The son joined the father in another American raid that came only two weeks apart from the one that assassinated his father," Jamal continued.
Jamal said that AQAP members referred to Abdul Rahman, as "Usayyid," or the lion's cub, and intimated that Abdul Rahman would one day replace his father.
"The word 'usayyid' is the diminutive form of the word 'assad [lion],' and in this name is
a reference to an Arab proverb: 'This cub is from that lion,'" Jamal said.
Jamal also said that Abdul Rahman's death was intentionally planned by the US "so that America would not be afflicted in the future with another Awlaki of the same type as Sheikh Anwar."




Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/12/anwar_al_awlakis_son.php#ixzz2Grlhu7i6
So you admit i'm right? Your justification aside.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
That's right Buck, a 16 year old made remarks against our government after they killed his father. Their response? he should have picked a different father.

Let's kill all teenagers who make disparaging remarks about our country. They are not old enough to drink, not old enough to vote, barely old enough to drive, but we know he's a danger to our safety at 16 so kill the fucker.

BTW, we labelled this kid as a terrorist because of who his father was, but we call the Fort Hood shooting a work place violence incident. The Ft Hood shooter was mentored by who?
 
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