Dr Greenthumbs Freedom 35- seed to smoke journal

drewbot

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i am having the exact problem with fd 35. also for a plant that doesnt stretch much i woulnt want to see one that does. makes hindu kush look like a short fat girl. fifty percent of them anyways. very dissappointed in this strain. it is nowhere near stable. my clones are flowering while rooting under 18 hrs of 600 hps. never seen less light than that. these plants are in my opinion very close to an auto. you cannot veg to size as doc says. successfully femmed one with cs first time trying ever and im tossing the seed. boo hoo. dont get me wrong the doc has some awesome strains..this isnt one of them. ive grown five of his and this is the only one i consider a waste of electricity..peace out merry xmas
Not to defend the plant or the breeder but I was pretty clear that it was recommended to veg the f35 under 24h of blue light. It is no surprise that your beans flipped on 18h of sodium light.
On the other hand I have 3 which went auto and I think I have 7 that are vegging very nicely under 24h t5 lighting. I have some other "semi-auto" strains and often it is a shock (poor feeding, pH, temperature) which will cause these plants to turn. Aaaanyway I'm taking cuttings of the remaining 7 and then turning the dark cycle up on the remaining moms until I find the ones with the preferred critical dark cycle and then hitting them with CS. I would suggest doing the same. The progeny is fairly diverse. Time will tell.
 

daalma

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Not to defend the plant or the breeder but I was pretty clear that it was recommended to veg the f35 under 24h of blue light. It is no surprise that your beans flipped on 18h of sodium light.
On the other hand I have 3 which went auto and I think I have 7 that are vegging very nicely under 24h t5 lighting. I have some other "semi-auto" strains and often it is a shock (poor feeding, pH, temperature) which will cause these plants to turn. Aaaanyway I'm taking cuttings of the remaining 7 and then turning the dark cycle up on the remaining moms until I find the ones with the preferred critical dark cycle and then hitting them with CS. I would suggest doing the same. The progeny is fairly diverse. Time will tell.
it was vegged 24 hours under 2 one thousand watt mh. i realize the clones should be under the same but they are in with my kush clones and they dont like 24 hrs. not enough interest in the strain . i am throwing fd35 clones and s2 seed i got away . will harvest the ten fd35 plants and then going back to hindu kush. i am currently getting low on space . i have iaf going to seed [colloidal silver] that i am giving prioritry to also.
 

Carbo007

Member
well final report on this garbage strain,out of 9 plants left got 2 hermies so got a few seeds in my weed. got 23oz dried and potency imo 7 out of 10,looks like shit in the bag no density at all.so overall i would not recommend this shit to anyone unless you want to waist 3 months to find out like i did.
 

Corso312

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Yikes, was just about to place an order for Iranian autos...kinda worried they mite not live up to description. Like the 35.
 

daalma

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Yikes, was just about to place an order for Iranian autos...kinda worried they mite not live up to description. Like the 35.
no worries about the iaf corso. its everything the doc says it is. it really amazed me. the doc sent me 18 iaf improved to try. havent tried them yet but they will have to be real good to be an improvement over regular iaf. ive grown four or five of his strains and i say it like it is. peace out

by the way. i was impressed enough with the iaf that when he sent me the improved i was worried that he would discontinue the regular and bought five packs of regular just in case last september when i bought the fd35. iaf is a smaller black seed while improved is a large striped seed which made me not want to take the chance. if you do try it pm me and ill give you some tips that will be very usefull. the doc said he was going to add these tips i gave him on his website as he never thought to do it but he still hasnt. yup iaf is worth every penny
 

Sippycup

Member
I germinated 20 Freedom 35s. 3 of them went autoflower. The rest of them however are doing great, although oddly enough there are a few differences with short stout bush like plants and some a bit taller. They don't seem to be too consistent in size and shape. I have cloned lots and lots of these so far and they are all over a foot tall now and looking good. I do notice early pistils popping on some of them but not to the extend of the ones that popped into autoflower. The ones I took clones from were the ones that looked least ready to flower. I wouldn't rule the strain out, I think it has potential. Just need to spend more time with it.
 

daalma

Active Member
Here's the one that went auto on me.....i put it in the flower room and 35 days later this little plant gave me just under and oz and a half. Strange thing is this one is better then its momma in taste, look and smell.
yeah maybe this strain is extra sensative to its individual environment. it seems like it to me. i find it to be finicky little bitches. always looking for attention. a fight from the getgo. lol peaceout.
 

daalma

Active Member
I germinated 20 Freedom 35s. 3 of them went autoflower. The rest of them however are doing great, although oddly enough there are a few differences with short stout bush like plants and some a bit taller. They don't seem to be too consistent in size and shape. I have cloned lots and lots of these so far and they are all over a foot tall now and looking good. I do notice early pistils popping on some of them but not to the extend of the ones that popped into autoflower. The ones I took clones from were the ones that looked least ready to flower. I wouldn't rule the strain out, I think it has potential. Just need to spend more time with it.
early pistols and size difference is two of my problems with this strain. these problems are the base for larger problems later in the grow. when i spend that much money for seeds i dont want to be the one to refine the strain. what did we pay for? dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with wanting to improve but i assumed it was allready done to some extent.
 

Dr Gruber

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In January of this year I quit smoking. I did it primarily with 3 things.

1) Electronic Cigarette
2) Copious amonts of Chemdawg
3) Copious amounts of Freedom 35

So far to my surprise, it has been easy. I know its easy to stumble and start again but so far, so good.
 

maphisto

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good for you bud,i don't smoke unless i am drinking a beer some how it's just feels right.or if i am smoking a J ill want a cig damn those cigs!!
 

hugaddiction

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In January of this year I quit smoking. I did it primarily with 3 things.

1) Electronic Cigarette
2) Copious amonts of Chemdawg
3) Copious amounts of Freedom 35

So far to my surprise, it has been easy. I know its easy to stumble and start again but so far, so good.
grats! I just quit opiates and am substituting a lot of OG in its place. I have a questions about the "endless sky" , if you are familiar with it. How long should that girl take to flower? Does it have a tendancy to herm, or am I unlucky, and how locked down is the strain. me and a buddy split a pack and seemed to only get 2 plants that looked alike out of the 6 we planted. They were fems, so that might be why we got some hermies, but the ones that turned out well, turned out really well. Huge colas, pic attached, sorry its not better, just went to the grow room to shoot it for this post. Its 8 weeks and 2 days, been doing just plain water for the last 5 days since I have no idea when it is supposed to be done.

Lastly Im about to jump in and grab some Freedomb 35, you still got love for it? I have a quick flowering Dinafem Critical + that I cut after 6.5 weeks, but if this F35 really is 5 weeks and its legit, I got to get my hands on that shit! Thank!
037.jpg043.jpgand, yes, that big ass cola is 4 ft of bud to bud. also, under a 400hps, not bad, DrGT.
 

Dr Gruber

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grats! I just quit opiates and am substituting a lot of OG in its place. I have a questions about the "endless sky" , if you are familiar with it. How long should that girl take to flower? Does it have a tendancy to herm, or am I unlucky, and how locked down is the strain. me and a buddy split a pack and seemed to only get 2 plants that looked alike out of the 6 we planted. They were fems, so that might be why we got some hermies, but the ones that turned out well, turned out really well. Huge colas, pic attached, sorry its not better, just went to the grow room to shoot it for this post. Its 8 weeks and 2 days, been doing just plain water for the last 5 days since I have no idea when it is supposed to be done.

Lastly Im about to jump in and grab some Freedomb 35, you still got love for it? I have a quick flowering Dinafem Critical + that I cut after 6.5 weeks, but if this F35 really is 5 weeks and its legit, I got to get my hands on that shit! Thank!
View attachment 2719177View attachment 2719178and, yes, that big ass cola is 4 ft of bud to bud. also, under a 400hps, not bad, DrGT.


Nice work on the opiates!
I haven't done the Endless sky so i dont know much about it. I have heard that it is a very light feeder and you need to be careful with them. That looks like a killer plant you have there...a keeper for sure.
The F35 is legit. Try some at 35 days and at 45 days and let me know what you like better.
 

hugaddiction

Active Member
right on, gonna grab some F35 on my next purchase. Iv got a half dozen clones I took of this plant, and they will be ready to flowering in a few weeks. I hope they live up to half the plant they were from seed! I guess we will see. Also, the DRGT site said it was an 8 week strain. Im cutting it at 8w3d and it still looks like it could go another week, but I ahve to get it down anyways, now that Im starting to see some mail pistils poppin up
 

Freedom35

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plant 1 got a little damage on the first set of true leaves but i caught it in time to keep plant 2 looking good.
They should be good to go now.
thats funny because one of mine looks IDENTICAL to this, what was ur burn from? nutes lights? and is there any way u could tell me how many weeks old they were in this pic?
 

Freedom35

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sorry wrong again it was on page three, also on this page it has them at day 15 which is where mine are at but they look like the 2 pics from above i dont understand the slow growth
 
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