How many of you are going to bitch about Obama care after 2016?

greenswag

greenswag

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Guitar Man said:
WTF is that supposed to mean?? I worked for my fucking paycheck, protecting your lazy ass from being invaded by people who live in the Dark Ages. So UB, did you serve in the Armed Forces? In case you haven't thought about it, there is a difference in WORKING for your money rather than sitting on your ass collecting money for doing NOTHING!

Now, back to ObamaIdontcare. The reason our Healthcare system is in the TANK is because of Obesity. Obesity is the number 1 Health Epidemic in this Nation, causing a massive outbreak of type 2 Diabetes, Heart Disease, Joint Failure, Depression, Cancer, and numerous other ailments that have caused our Health Insurance to go out of control in spending money for people who won't take responsibility for their actions. The Government is also feeding this frenzy by giving handouts to those who refuse to work. If you don't believe me, go to Walmart after the Welfare checks are paid out. Obesity is a plague amongst the poor, and the Democrats are responsible for feeling sorry for people who need a KICK IN THE ASS, while feeding them the diet of sugar and processed foods that are sending them strait to the doctor!

I have a good friend and client who has been a practicing physician for 25 years, and he voted for Obama. I spoke with him the other day and I boldly told him what I said above: HE AGREED WITH ME!!!!!! He fucking understood what I said, and he admitted our Nation is a FAT SLOB crying over the next ailment they have, then expecting the Government to pick up the tab when they need open heart surgery or a new knee joint because they can't walk with their extra 150 lbs!!!!

Until Obesity is brought under control, nothing can fix our Healthcare system, NOTHING! America is SICK because they won't stop stuffing their faces and they won't exercise!!! The Pharmaceutical industry is FAT with cash and the Health industry is FAT with cash, until now, and the reason is simple; the obese are on disability, can't work, have caused massive medical supply revamping (bigger beds/cranes to lift the obese/larger ambulances/more staff), and those who don't want to pay the high price of Health Insurance have op'd out of Health Plans that have become a joke. That means, the Healthy have backed away from the Insurance Pool that only the sick are using, AND, who aren't contributing to the pool.

This is why Obama is trying to strong-arm people like me to pay in, as he knows, we can survive without Health Insurance, and those are the EXACT people that insurance pools need! But FUCK IT, I'm sick and tired of paying for other people who run to the doctor every day because their bad health is the result of laziness and undisciplined eating habits! FUCK IT, I'll pay my own bills!
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Hey UB's on the same team fighting obesity lol, he sells treadmills! Fighting the good fight
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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ginjawarrior said:
i believe that living in a country like the usa you are taking advantage of benefits that have been paid for by society
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I believe we live in a country that is supposed to value liberty above all else. What benefits are you talking about?

ginjawarrior said:
that paying taxes is contributing towards your usage of it
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Which taxes? Sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, import taxes...?

ginjawarrior said:
its a bit like going to the supermarket and stuffing your face while you walk down the isle yet trying to leave without paying for it
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I see it more like somebody robbing me to pay for someone else's groceries.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ginjawarrior said:
thinking upon it i would say a restaurant is a better analogy

rob is looking for a service where he orders exactly what he wants and a chef cooks it for him

whereas the reality is closer to an all you can eat buffet you pay to be allowed to eat and choose what you want

now he might not agree with the selection of the people next to him but he gets the bits he needs
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You use the word "service" in your example. A service is what you get when you WILLINGLY contract with another. When you say government provides a service you are ignoring it has an or else involved. So it's not really a "service" . The politest word to describe that would be an imposition rather than service. I'll just call it what it is though....extortion.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
You use the word "service" in your example. A service is what you get when you WILLINGLY contract with another. When you say government provides a service you are ignoring it has an or else involved. So it's not really a "service" . The politest word to describe that would be an imposition rather than service. I'll just call it what it is though....extortion.
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so why don't you just abscond to the woods already?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
i'm gonna go play some golf tomorrow and then amend my blueberry/strawberry patches. what a prison :roll:
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A friend of mine had cops trespass on her property and hide in her blueberry bushes till they busted her medical grow. It only cost her over $50,000 grand to ransom her house back, she's still in prison. Enjoy your golf game.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
A friend of mine had cops trespass on her property and hide in her blueberry bushes till they busted her medical grow. It only cost her over $50,000 grand to ransom her house back, she's still in prison. Enjoy your golf game.
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good thing i sell treadmills.
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Rob Roy said:
You use the word "service" in your example. A service is what you get when you WILLINGLY contract with another. When you say government provides a service you are ignoring it has an or else involved. So it's not really a "service" . The politest word to describe that would be an imposition rather than service. I'll just call it what it is though....extortion.
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yes yes imposition would be right

you've impositioned yourself on the rest of the people at the buffet because you've stuffed your plate full and now your complaining about paying for it

imposition works quite well

the moment you leave the buffet is the moment that you choose to not accept their service there
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Rob Roy said:
Don't have to...self evident. USA leading the world in people imprisoned.
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so your an inmate now who's completely powerless to take control of his life?

isnt it about time you manned up a bit and stopped blaming the world for your shortcomings?
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Mr Neutron said:
I believe we live in a country that is supposed to value liberty above all else. What benefits are you talking about?
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all the nuts and bolts that differentiate the usa from some third world hellhole

Which taxes? Sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, import taxes...?
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all of the above and more !!

I see it more like somebody robbing me to pay for someone else's groceries.
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good for you??
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ginjawarrior said:
yes yes imposition would be right

you've impositioned yourself on the rest of the people at the buffet because you've stuffed your plate full and now your complaining about paying for it

imposition works quite well

the moment you leave the buffet is the moment that you choose to not accept their service there
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So a group of people can make another pay for things they don't want and/or find morally objectionable and you accept this as the way it should be?

At a buffet people are free to choose amongst the menu aren't they?
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Rob Roy said:
So a group of people can make another pay for things they don't want and/or find morally objectionable and you accept this as the way it should be?

At a buffet people are free to choose amongst the menu aren't they?
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its an all you can eat buffet you plate is full of food and you have crumbs around your mouth

it doesnt matter if you dont want the seafood out on selection you dont have to eat it

you just dont get to complain about the seafood being there
EDIT: badly worded while you can complain about there being seafood on offer it does not follow that you get your meal for free because of it


why do you think its ok to not pay for your plate of food?
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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ginjawarrior said:
its an all you can eat buffet you plate is full of food and you have crumbs around your mouth

it doesnt matter if you dont want the seafood out on selection you dont have to eat it

you just dont get to complain about the seafood being there
EDIT: badly worded while you can complain about there being seafood on offer it does not follow that you get your meal for free because of it


why do you think its ok to not pay for your plate of food?
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... and what if you don't eat at the buffet? What if you cook at home?
 
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