Is Fox Farm Organic?

[Sincerely420]

Big bloom is (just shit that is). Tiger bloom is 80% which is close, grow big is crystal meth, ground up glass,water and green food coloring. My question is how will chemical fertz effect the mirco organisms in the soil, what's the point in having organic base soil when your nutes just kill the little little homies cuzz

Chemical ferts do kill off the bennies bro, that's why pointless to try to be organic and use them.
I added everything extra to my soil and lit it sit for a month before I used it, and I only use water, molasses, kelp, liquid fish, and EWCs when I make AACTs.
Bottled nutes are water soluble so the plants are able to use them right away when you apply them so maybe that's why they work. Organics are broken down by the lil homies(microbes) and converted into a form that the plants can feed off of. So when you brew AACTs, the goal is to add to the pop. of bennies in the soil by multiplying fungi/bacteria in bubbled water.

If you add everything to your soil before you use it and let it cycle then you can get away with only watering you plants. You can use the AACTs every watering too. I use them 3 out of every 4 so far.

Altho the duo above disagree, I'm not on that boat.

 

[Ccoastal]

There's not a def. within a mile of my plants. Not a toxicity. Sorry but your diagnosis is NULL.
You waste space on my thread lol <- Did you see an N toxicity..ANYTHING DEFICIENT?
And I'm 24. You were a little of with the #12. Halfway there.
And it doesn't matter how long I've been growing dude. It only matter how well I learn and apply myself.

Skip passed what you want..But stop lying damn. I don't care about you bro, so ain't nothing pissy about what Im saying. I'd have to feel at least some sort of what about you to give you an attitude...But I don't. Not at all.

Offer all the advice you want. By the end of my grow I'll be back to post and we'll leave it at that...I'll quote your OP in my final harvest photo and call it "crap in bag".
I'm good buddy.

You must have nothing to do if you wanna "piss" about whether products are organic or not when they claim to be.
Whaaa.....Who cares. It works. OBVIOUSLY

do yourself a favor, reread this whole thread, and take more than 5 seconds before you respond.

yes i saw too much N in your plants, you also said you wouldnt be happy with less than 6oz, 2oz each, well im here to tell you that you need to veg longer, and get bigger pots to hit that goal, take a breather dude. you have a lot to learn and i can guarantee you nothing but ill-fortune if you continue to blindly doubt what is being told to you by professionals. your grow needs work and a serious overhaul.

i could not care less about your grow, or you, i answered the questions that were asked with more detail and experience than was required so that some of you guys will actually learn something hopefully.

you can say your not pissy but read your posts, quit acting like a child and pay attention, people that actually know their shit are telling you solid info, if you dont wanna learn i cant make you.

Ccoastal

 

[Ccoastal]

heres 1 of my rooms



heres yours View attachment 2468891 (edit: you might wanna move that power cord out from directly under your pot runoff)

take advice from who you want, just know knowledge comes with experience, not a single run and a couple books

Ccoastal

 

[Sincerely420]

You can say what you want "professional". My mother taught me to be selective in the thing I take it.
We will see about whatever you said..And that's that...This is my last post until harvest at least here. Ive left everything said that I needed to.
Given the advice you're giving, you're better off saving it from this point forward with me. Save yourself the time and refer to someone else with your next post.
Thanks for the compliments as well about my grow needing an overhaul and some work haha. Gotta get a "pro" in here to help me set up

Its cool not to see eye to eye with someone. It happens. But so far I'm acting like a child, not paying attention, I don't wanna learn, and you GARUNTEE me NOTHING BUT MISFORTUNE!....Ok...My nxt post here will be quoting that last post of yours. Until then my friend!

ANYONE ELSE QUESTIONING FOX FARM OCEAN FOREST on the thread, I'm using it and you can see what you results may be if you look at my sig. Ciao World


No probs here! All is good! Just a debate..Ending worlds apart.
Guy feels one way, I feel the other. Simple.

 

[Ccoastal]

420, plz fill out this form and get it back to me



Ccoastal

 

[Sincerely420]

That was lame. Hopefully you'll get a bunch of likes for posting that. Maybe some +rep?

This is what I've managed to do with Fox Farm Ocean Forest in case anybody was wondering if they could use it.
obviously you can, which was my entire point in posting. Be back at harvest time

 

[Ccoastal]

View attachment 2468947That was lame. Hopefully you'll get a bunch of likes for posting that. Maybe some +rep?

This is what I've managed to do with Fox Farm Ocean Forest in case anybody was wondering if they could use it.
obviously you can, which was my entire point in posting. Be back at harvest time

yep, too much N, and look at the leaf tips, see that burning? #experienced-eye

heres a few issues.

Ccoastal

 

[Sincerely420]

What about an experienced mind? Narrowed it down to Nitrogen huh? that quick? Not a chance of it being something else huh? Not the heat...Not Cal/Mg.....Not Potash..
Damn you are a pro huh?!

Leaves do what they do pro. That's that..Shouldn't you know this?
You found 8 spots on 3 combined plants at a month and a half old...You feeling accomplished yet?

And this is the work of Fox Farms Ocean Forest Organic Potting Soil!..Once again

 

[Ccoastal]

What about an experienced mind? Narrowed it down to Nitrogen huh? that quick? Not a chance of it being something else huh? Not the heat...Not Cal/Mg.....Not Potash..
Damn you are a pro huh?!

Leaves do what they do pro. That's that..Shouldn't you know this?
You found 8 spots on 3 combined plants at a month and a half old...You feeling accomplished yet?

And this is the work of Fox Farms Ocean Forest Organic Potting Soil!..Once again

yep, N the depth of green is a dead giveaway. and no, novice, leaves dont do what they do. they do what they do because of the elements they are given. your burning your plants. and no, its not cal or mag, if you knew what you were talkin about you would know that excess Mg locks out Mn, showing deficiencies even where there is none. heat? no. again if you knew what you were talking about you would know that heat doesnt burn your leaf tips, it raises the leaflets and makes your leaves taco.

obviously you have a lot to learn, im not going to teach you all of it, i wish you the best in your endeavors but you really should do more than one run before you start saying its the best and plants love it, while still working out of a single bag of soil. you clearly do not know what you are talking about, and instead of disproving anything i say you argue about it. do yourself a favor and try something else, even if its just one plant.

yep, sure is the work of FFOF and a rookie, when you get more than 2 runs under your belt get back to me mr awesome, i also found all those issues in a single picture, i couldnt take pics of all my budsites on a single SD card but you manage to get all of yours in a single picture.

keep defending it all you want, everytime you try to disprove something or make a point your naivete rears its head. you are doing nothing to compel people to buy FFOF by looking like an idiot.

Ccoastal

 

[Sincerely420]

We'll see guy. Thanks and GL to you too

And my apologies for the extra ish in between the lines

 

[cannachef]

I had to sign in for the LULZ that is this thread. 420 you should try being more humble. I have no problem pointing out that your grow looks all around sketchy at best. No I'm not going to back anything up with pics or argue about my post count. You should take into consideration that Ccoastal might just know what he's saying. His answers had facts in them your responses had arguments in them.

Sorry my comma key isn't working for some reason.....I may/or may not have spilled some organic FF nutes on it.

edit.
Damnit looks like i showed up right after the make up E-Hug.

 

[Sincerely420]

Hellofa 13th post!

Good luck to you too!

*edit And you might wanna take it easy around the keyboard with those bottled nutes

 

[TXskunkKush]

Lmfao @Cannachef

 

[yesum]

lol well, gonna skip right past the whole FF growing incredible pot...

as for organic designation.. i have lived my entire life in the food industry, do yourself a favor and look up what it takes to have an organic label. you are on the internet after all.

also i said that FF nutrients, as in liquid, is a chemical cocktail. dont believe me? go read where it says 'organic based' on the side of the bottle.

wonder why they call it tiger bloom? because it makes you roar when you smoke it. those of us that have been around long enough to know what we are talking about know that as you feed the plant chem ferts, those chems are transported and held in every cell of the plant. you do not flush them out. period. but thats another story entirely, and im not gonna sit here and walk you through the basics of botany. note how sledgehammer flush was released after the nutrient line hit the market because of the number of people complaining about the ionic bond between soil and nutrients that needs to be broken in order to flush from the soil.

FFOF has proven to have incredible ph fluctuations and varied nutrient values from bag to bag, back in the olden days FF did actually have decent soil, partly because not as wide of a variety of products were available as they are today (many of which are much better) but mainly because the family in NY that owned FF had a large plot of land that they harvested their bases from, well as we all know the company got large and their now small lot of land could not keep up, so they outsourced for their products, losing quality control.

sure, you grow good weed with FF, but there I, as a well seasoned professional am saying there are better products out there, no im not trying to say your weed isnt dank or youre not the best grower ever. but i, having no stake in the game to defend FFOF or any other product am simply saying, no FF nutes are not organic. their soil is questionable at best.

wanna disprove me? go ahead.

Ccoastal

What is a better soil to buy? I am in socal so my options are limited to here.

 

[TXskunkKush]

Fox Farm Ocean Forest works I use it in conjuction with Fox Farm Light Warrior for optimal nutrient intake! Roots Organic is also a good choice

 

[medical/420]

Big bloom, kangerroots, micro brew, sledge hammer, all the Happy frog soil additives all organic

 

[Ccoastal]

What is a better soil to buy? I am in socal so my options are limited to here.

roots organic, natural & organic is the mainstay, 707 formula for outdoors and if you want to amend it, and greenfields for long 10+ week veg times or outdoor, it has a higher N ratio but unlike ffof or happy frog its made specifically for weed and its incredibly reliable and ph balanced

youll notice people that have been using ffof for years will cut it, usually 50/50 with happy frog if they are limited access to only FF, thats because either on its own doesnt work well, ffof burns the plants and is ph imbalanced, and happy frog dries into a rock because of the peat making it near impossible to absorb water once dried, and also crushes your roots when it contracts, if i could only use FF i would cut it 50/50 with happy frog and mix a cup and a half of dolomite lime in with each 1:1 bag mix to buffer the ph, then wet it slightly and let it sit for a month or so before use

Ccoastal

 

[Kalyx]

F FF

I like roots IME, nice breakdown of their mixes, and entertainment value CC! (especially the form LMAO)

 

[cannachef]

Roots is a amazing product. Thats all I use now...... untill next month when I buy my pallet full of TGA soil

 

[Sincerely420]

Just purchased mixed my second batch of FFOF up yesterday! All is good still.
Not feeling very "sketched" out...

Just thought I'd comment again...I don't know of anyone who buy something twice if they weren't satisfied to start...
Everything's still green. Just flipped to flower and am now prepped for the stretch..

So is FFOF organic?
Well......................It says so on the bag.
And it works nicely once again peep my "sketchy" grow