Light Fixture Question

[Jacob Patterson]

I recently purchased 2 100w HPS Medium Base bulbs. I would like to start using them in my tent asap however, I would like to know how to hook them up. Such as what parts I would need or what not to build my own ballast. Whatever the options I'm hoping they're all FIRE SAFE. Thanks for the help folks! Stay medicated!

 

[legallyflying]

is that a typo? 100watt?

not sure what you mean by medium base as well. grow bulbs have a mogul base.

google "wire a light socket"

 

[Jacob Patterson]

Hey, thanks for stopping by legallyflying. Yea you read it right, 2 x 100w Medium Based HPS Replacement bulbs. I looked them up they're for an outside security light. However, I was wondering if anyone here could school me on hooking them up to where they hang vertically. Again thanks for stopping by. I appreciate any help!

is that a typo? 100watt?

not sure what you mean by medium base as well. grow bulbs have a mogul base.

google "wire a light socket"

 

[hotrodharley]

Buy a vertical reflector and cord set.

 

[legallyflying]

^ no no no, its not a mogul base. I would need a picture of the base you have in order to tell you how to hook it up but its pretty easy really. black to one side, white to the other, and then green to the ground. done.

 

[justanotherbozo]

Hey, thanks for stopping by legallyflying. Yea you read it right, 2 x 100w Medium Based HPS Replacement bulbs. I looked them up they're for an outside security light. However, I was wondering if anyone here could school me on hooking them up to where they hang vertically. Again thanks for stopping by. I appreciate any help!

...yeah man, that bulb is gonna need a ballast which is almost certainly built into the fixture that bulb is meant for, ...what you'd have to do is buy one of those fixtures and either use it as it is out of the box or you'd have to dismantle it so you could extend the cord between the ballast components and the socket the bulb actually screws into, ...this enables you to remote the ballast and the heat it generates outside your growspace.

here's a link to my first flower box where i document the modding of 2x 150wattHPS fixtures and while these are 150s, the wiring will be exactly the same.

justanother stealth, DIY, 2x 150 HPS bud box, ...bozo style!



...this last one shows one of the two original fixtures on the left and the two boxes i'd originally planned on mounting the components into, above you can see i eventually decided to use something else.



peace, bozo

 

[polyarcturus]

id rather run 200w cfl over 200w hps.

 

[Sir.Ganga]

id rather run 200w cfl over 200w hps.

Really! You should read up on intensity and penatration because come on now... comparing hids to cfl's? CFL'S are great for growing but when compared to HID's, they really fall short.

 

[justanotherbozo]

id rather run 200w cfl over 200w hps.

...as someone who has run both i'd suggest to you that you'd be losing out if you took that direction as HPS will always beat CFL, watt for watt.

...where CFLs come out on top is in how cheap they are to get started with and how versatile they are in the spectrum you can deliver, but for intensity, HPS wins the contest, hands down.

peace, bozo

 

[tibberous]

Buy a vertical reflector and cord set.

And a 600 watt bulb.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

yeah i would pick up something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Robertson-BLU0100A04-BLU0100A04900-core-ballast/dp/B0085BAY4I/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1357575959&sr=8-4&keywords=100w+HPS+ballast

by the time you buy 2 of these and the bulbs you prob could have went with a 600w dimmable like this one and got a nice cool tube, 2 bulbs, timer and hangers.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Electronic-Dimmable-Reflector-Hydroponic/dp/B00521B894/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1357576045&sr=8-6&keywords=600w+apollo

i have been using this apollo brand for a few months now and it seems to work well. also comes with a 3 year warranty on ballast and a 1 year warranty on bulbs...not too shabby for the price.

 

[polyarcturus]

Really! You should read up on intensity and penatration because come on now... comparing hids to cfl's? CFL'S are great for growing but when compared to HID's, they really fall short.

...as someone who has run both i'd suggest to you that you'd be losing out if you took that direction as HPS will always beat CFL, watt for watt.

...where CFLs come out on top is in how cheap they are to get started with and how versatile they are in the spectrum you can deliver, but for intensity, HPS wins the contest, hands down.

peace, bozo

bwhahahahaahaha.....


i can prove to youi mathematically you can be more efficient growth wise with 100w of cfl than 100w of hps. HID do not really become more effective(intensity wise) than cfl till your at the 150w range. just because he has x2 100w doesnt mean shit his penetration will be about the same as with fluoro but less coverage, less par, and more heat. i would never waste my time with any HID under 150w

 

[legallyflying]

bwhahahahaahaha.....


i can prove to youi mathematically you can be more efficient growth wise with 100w of cfl than 100w of hps. HID do not really become more effective(intensity wise) than cfl till your at the 150w range. just because he has x2 100w doesnt mean shit his penetration will be about the same as with fluoro but less coverage, less par, and more heat. i would never waste my time with any HID under 150w

I wouldn't mind seeing the math behind that statement. It is my understanding that in terms of lumens/watt, HID bulbs always kill CFL and T5's. I love my T'5 bank for starting out plants but after they get a 1' tall or so I can't wait to get them under a proper HID.

 

[polyarcturus]

saved me some explaining, but i found this so i didnt have to type it all out. its rather a complicated subject.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=105515

 

[Sir.Ganga]

bwhahahahaahaha.....


i can prove to youi mathematically you can be more efficient growth wise with 100w of cfl than 100w of hps. HID do not really become more effective(intensity wise) than cfl till your at the 150w range. just because he has x2 100w doesnt mean shit his penetration will be about the same as with fluoro but less coverage, less par, and more heat. i would never waste my time with any HID under 150w

And staticially I can prove you a MORON also...(which you prolly aren't)... but that prooves my point. Math...like staticis can show many different outcomes, just depends who's doin the thinkin.

I would put my money on the in-efficient, fragile, hot, ballast toten HPS without question.

Mathematical Engineer Maybe?

 

[polyarcturus]

And staticially I can prove you a MORON also...(which you prolly aren't)... but that prooves my point. Math...like staticis can show many different outcomes, just depends who's doin the thinkin.

I would put my money on the in-efficient, fragile, hot, ballast toten HPS without question.

Mathematical Engineer Maybe?

its all relative to perspective, i have to agree

no not a math person just see the big picture of things, i value efficiency very highly.

 

[justanotherbozo]

bwhahahahaahaha.....


i can prove to youi mathematically you can be more efficient growth wise with 100w of cfl than 100w of hps. HID do not really become more effective(intensity wise) than cfl till your at the 150w range. just because he has x2 100w doesnt mean shit his penetration will be about the same as with fluoro but less coverage, less par, and more heat. i would never waste my time with any HID under 150w

150watts of HPS will outperform 150watts of CFL all day long, despite whatever 'research' you think you've done, or how loud you giggle, ...and i speak from experience because i grew under nothing but CFLs for nearly 2 years before i upgraded to HPS and i've been growing now under HPS for more than double that time, ...believe me, if CFLs had been better i'd have had no problem going back to them!

saved me some explaining, but i found this so i didnt have to type it all out. its rather a complicated subject.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=105515

lol, here's another of Quazi's threads that seems to suggest he prefers HPS as well.

150w HPS Cabinet by Quazi

peace, bozo

 

[polyarcturus]

once again... i myslef pointed out the difference in efficiency occurs at 150w single source of light. vs 150w cfl.

but the whole point is he wants to use 100W HPS, his single source of 100W are less efficient than x4 23w sources, closer, more coverage and more in spectrum.

now if he said i have a x2 150w bulbs i might change my tune because that single source is much more powerful an efficient at covering a space than x6 23w cfls. the difference is those 50w that 50w in hps terms is when the penetration advantage really begins to add up.

 

[justanotherbozo]

once again... i myslef pointed out the difference in efficiency occurs at 150w single source of light. vs 150w cfl.

but the whole point is he wants to use 100W HPS, his single source of 100W are less efficient than x4 23w sources, closer, more coverage and more in spectrum.

now if he said i have a x2 150w bulbs i might change my tune because that single source is much more powerful an efficient at covering a space than x6 23w cfls. the difference is those 50w that 50w in hps terms is when the penetration advantage really begins to add up.

...no man, i disagree, a single watt of HPS light will always be more intense and therefore penetrate more deeply into a canopy than a single watt of CFL light.

...so 1watt HPS to 1watt CFL, 100watt HPS to 100watt CFL, 150watt HPS to 150watt CFL, it doesn't matter, the HPS wins every time.

bozo

 

[polyarcturus]

...no man, i disagree, a single watt of HPS light will always be more intense and therefore penetrate more deeply into a canopy than a single watt of CFL light.

...so 1watt HPS to 1watt CFL, 100watt HPS to 100watt CFL, 150watt HPS to 150watt CFL, it doesn't matter, the HPS wins every time.

bozo

you right.