How many of you are going to bitch about Obama care after 2016?

NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/October/12-ag-1205.html

Medicare Fraud Strike Force Charges 91 Individuals for Approximately $430 Million in False Billing

Fourteen defendants in Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston are facing charges in connection with unrelated schemes to defraud the federal government of more than $100 million in fake Medicare billings.


Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/10/04/4312795/14-indicted-in-medicare-fraud.html#storylink=cpy



Deal with the crocked doctors first!


Your are a FOOL chesusridiot!

Far more than 2 nursing homes you could come up with!
 
NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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Feds announce biggest-ever Medicare fraud, totaling $450 million
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/02/11504338-feds-announce-biggest-ever-medicare-fraud-totaling-450-million?lite

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20121214/INFO/312149984/new-medicare-fraud-detection-system-saves-115-million
New Medicare fraud detection system saves $115 million

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/12/carson-pastor-pleads-guilty-to-11-million-in-medicare-fraud-.html
A Los Angeles-area church pastor pleaded guilty Monday to conspiring with doctors, the operators of fraudulent medical clinics, street-level patient recruiters and others to defraud Medicare of more than $11 million.



Come on chesus, going to have to come up with some better links. Mine seem to trump yours!
 
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ChesusRice

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NoGutsGrower said:
LOL!!!! Yeah... this is the whole problem! LOL! IDIOT!
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NoGutsGrower said:
My wife does MDS* and she says NObama care so I stand by her (I'm really sick so I should know more about it but her word is good enough for me)! MDS is how the nursing facilities get paid from the government. I don't want costs going up when I'm old have less money and even more medical problems.
*Minimum Data Set (MDS) is a key tool in the process of assessing the functional capabilities of residents of certified nursing facilities. MDS coordinators, also known as nurse assessment coordinators, use these results to formulate and implement individual care plans for residents. This process is a carefully documented clinical assessment of patients, and sent electronically to the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
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So you are against Obamacare. Yet it is Obamacare provisions that are going after medicare fraud and at the same time you are accusing me of being an idiot?
I just woke up. Can you explain where you stand?
 
NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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ChesusRice said:
So you are against Obamacare. Yet it is Obamacare provisions that are going after medicare fraud and at the same time you are accusing me of being an idiot?
I just woke up. Can you explain where you stand?
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You are the one that posted the pointless links to fraud in nursing homes after I said my wife works at one. I only posted the fraud links to show that nursing homes are the least of the worries in this fucked up health care system and that your links didn't mean shit! I have no intestines, hence the name no guts, I have been through and am still going through way more medical shit than most people have. My costs have never been higher! My stance is "Fuck obama care".
 
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ChesusRice

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NoGutsGrower said:
You are the one that posted the pointless links to fraud in nursing homes after I said my wife works at one. I only posted the fraud links to show that nursing homes are the least of the worries in this fucked up health care system and that your links didn't mean shit! I have no intestines, hence the name no guts, I have been through and am still going through way more medical shit than most people have. My costs have never been higher! My stance is "Fuck obama care".
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Obamacare did away with insurance lifetiime caps
pre existing conditions
Obamacare isnt increasing the cost of insurance
Insurance companys are. They are doing so while they can. Because once obamacare kicks in they cannot just arbitrarily increase rates.
 
NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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ChesusRice said:
Obamacare did away with insurance lifetiime caps
pre existing conditions
Obamacare isnt increasing the cost of insurance
Insurance companys are. They are doing so while they can. Because once obamacare kicks in they cannot just arbitrarily increase rates.
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Or doctors charge you out of pocket, quit accepting medicare patients or just quit practicing all together.
Physicians say they simply won’t practice under Obamacare rules that strip away much of their autonomy, drown them in bureaucracy, and leave them even more exposed to lawsuits.

In Iowa, Obamacare to Cause 34% of Doctors to Stop Accepting Medicare Patients
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/11/02/in-iowa-obamacare-to-cause-34-of-doctors-to-stop-accepting-medicare-patients/

So you either pay for good health care or you get the doctors that dont give a shit, that barely passed school or you get a nurse practitioner not a real doctor and you don't get better. Obama care seems like it will turn the health care system into a bunch of free clinics. Where do you think all the extra doctors are going to come from when millions more have insurance and millions of doctors quit? Obama promised you will be able to see the same doctor. How if they quit taking medicare patients or just quit all together. My surgeon DR. Gordon Klatt will retire. That means I would have to put my life in some new guys hands, some one that doesn't give a shit. My surgeon is the founder of relay for life, You don't get to see those kinds of doctors under obama care.
 
NoGutsGrower

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The survey also has bad news for Iowa on other forms of insurance. 19 percent of Iowa physicians say that they’ll place new or additional limits on Medicaid patients as a result of the Medicare cuts; 20 percent also say they plan to raise fees on those with private insurance in order to compensate for the cuts.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/11/02/in-iowa-obamacare-to-cause-34-of-doctors-to-stop-accepting-medicare-patients/
Now those are just the doctors that were being honest and saying they will raise rates, I'm sure a lot didn't say they will raise rates but still will.
so you buy your insurance and you still pay a higher fee at the doctors office, they stop helping medicare patients or charge them more. Cost don't seem to go down.
 
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ChesusRice

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NoGutsGrower said:
The survey also has bad news for Iowa on other forms of insurance. 19 percent of Iowa physicians say that they’ll place new or additional limits on Medicaid patients as a result of the Medicare cuts; 20 percent also say they plan to raise fees on those with private insurance in order to compensate for the cuts.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/11/02/in-iowa-obamacare-to-cause-34-of-doctors-to-stop-accepting-medicare-patients/
Now those are just the doctors that were being honest and saying they will raise rates, I'm sure a lot didn't say they will raise rates but still will.
so you buy your insurance and you still pay a higher fee at the doctors office, they stop helping medicare patients or charge them more. Cost don't seem to go down.
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How about just listing how Obamacare has negativly affected you?
 
NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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Obama adviser Jonathan Gruber has estimated that, by 2016, the cost of individual-market health insurance under Obamacare, relative to what it would have been under prior law, will increase by an average of 19 percent in Colorado, 29 percent in Minnesota, and 30 percent in Wisconsin.

How is that cutting cost?
 
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ChesusRice

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NoGutsGrower said:
Obama adviser Jonathan Gruber has estimated that, by 2016, the cost of individual-market health insurance under Obamacare, relative to what it would have been under prior law, will increase by an average of 19 percent in Colorado, 29 percent in Minnesota, and 30 percent in Wisconsin.

How is that cutting cost?
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How about just listing how Obamacare has negativly affected you?
 
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ChesusRice

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NoGutsGrower said:
That is what I am told by MY doctor!
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Why not wait to find out? Because you sound like you bought a bucket of fear the Republitards were spreading to try and derail their plan called Obamacare.
Medicare hasnt changed for you
Obamacare doesnt affect you
Chill out and turn off the AM radio
 
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