So are cannabis clubs a scam?

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adower

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shmoop said:
I had a dude seriously tell me that because all my nugs weren't the same size it was worthless... And another tell me that because it wasn't bone dry (as it is curing) they couldn't do anything with it... I'm like wont it just cure in your jars when it sits on the shelf??? Do these people think that I am fucking retarded or what?
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Where are you from? If your in cali then thats the norm. The out door season just ended. You can get top shelf lbs for 1500$. If you're growing indoor and not running a ton of lights you're not going to make any money. Between the electric bill, nutes, etc.
 
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echlectica

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REALSTYLES said:
If you've been growing for 22 years you shouldn't be on this site busted or not. You'd know to lay low and not draw attention to yourself.
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Really? What attention? Out of the thousands of people on the internet the only people who get busted are the idiots with the video cameras...
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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echlectica said:
Do you realize how pathetic you are. You live in Northern California and have been growing for a year and you wlak into the club the very first time and you want the same money as someone who has been growing since you were in diapers.
Just bcuzz I live in Texas now don't mean I haven't lived on the west coast and grown pot on the west coast like back in the 90's. Seriousy kid you really feel like you should get the same money as the guy who has been growing for many years and has been dealing with the clubs for years? Thats pathetic. Did you get a trophy just for playing soccer even though your team lost every game? That the type of entitlment mentality your exhibiting. Your not entitled to the same money as more experienced people and your not going to get it.
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You are a liar. I just checked some of your threads you posted and you asked a question about the leaves drooping at the end of the light cycle if it was natural. Everyone knows the plants droop before light out, at least the people who has experience in growing
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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echlectica said:
It sounds to me like either you just don't know what good buds really are. Was the guy in front of you with the pounds trying to sell 30 or 40 pounds? You walk in with your little ten ounces of indoor during hash season right after harvest and demand $150/ounce dude they are selling ounces on craiglist retail for that. Get a grip your not entitled...
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22 years experience and you're talking about craigslist come on dude get real
 
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adower

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shmoop said:
Yeah I looked up non profit laws and educated myself a little better on that...

And I agree with you, I am totally professional in these places. Not argumentative or rude. I smile shake hands and thank them for their time... I sorta jokingly mentioned price gouging to one guy... but I heard him offer the vendor in front of me 500 a pound for some pretty nice bud. Then he offered me 300 for 5 ounces of indoor. I will NEVER go back to that fuckin place
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Its not a sellers market anymore. Its a buyers market. If you wont sell it at that price better believe the guy who just cropped double digit lbs from an outdoor grow will.
 
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echlectica

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REALSTYLES said:
You are a liar. I just checked some of your threads you posted and you asked a question about the leaves drooping at the end of the light cycle if it was natural. Everyone knows the plants droop before light out, at least the people who has experience in growing
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Not on every strain. and just because I was asking if other people see the same thing don't mean I ain't been growing for 22 years. Seriously what are you jelouse that I'm getting old or something what the fuck?
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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echlectica said:
Pics of what my plants? I don't photgraph my weed thats a good way to get busted. Why is it everytime I say how long I've been growing pot on here one of you children demands pictures to prove it? Fuck off.
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Well unfortunate for you hahahaha I have a Cali state card and can pocess 6 lbs dried Cannabis and 99 plants but I only grow 8 hahahahaha.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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dabumps said:
Shit sucks man. Move it to NV or Idaho or something. If it's Illegal you will get strait retail prices for top shelf. I was sellin for 1200 a QP Where I was last located. What's even better find a state that has a legal system but not despenceries. That way you're better with the law bein on your nuts than in an illegal state but there isn't this HUGE market there. In all reality everywhere people are in the know are a far minority. Just Cali is a really bad place to try and pick it up. I think that Federal is in the 5 year window. I suggest get your shit going in a podunk state and wait with a good business plan or enough cash to buy a little shack on the side of the road. You bet your ass thats what I'm gonna do. Because the green rush is going to sweep east as faster than you could drive west. So get on early and score big. You can bet your ass that I'll have a business licence the day its legal and I'll be selling it out of the back of my truck or something. there is where your money is going to be. Shit just save it. Get it cured and then vac seal it and freeze it and then in 5 years ban your got 500 lbs that you can crank out in less than a month I'm sure. You would be beyond weathy even at that point. Shit if you took out loans for a super legit store you could pay back your loans in the first year. it would strait piss off your bank but fuck them.
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You shouldnt freeze weed.
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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shmoop said:
Yeah I looked up non profit laws and educated myself a little better on that...
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Yeah and the DEA is capitalizing on just that type of misunderstanding in their rhetoric lately. That is so angering, but I digress, sorry.

shmoop said:
And I agree with you, I am totally professional in these places. Not argumentative or rude. I smile shake hands and thank them for their time... I sorta jokingly mentioned price gouging to one guy... but I heard him offer the vendor in front of me 500 a pound for some pretty nice bud. Then he offered me 300 for 5 ounces of indoor.
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Ok, you just seemed so angry here I didn't figure you could keep that much anger completely hidden.

shmoop said:
I will NEVER go back to that fuckin place
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That's what I mean about emotion hindering you. For all you know he has all a plethora of top shelf growers. But he just low balled you to see if he could get some more cheaply since he didn't 'need' any.

You can't take anyone's refusal of your product personally. Instead just market like a pro and make the rounds of all the potential sales outlets close by you ever so often. Things change, your reputation will grow. You may hit that dispensary when they have a bunch of low & mids and need top and then they'll pay what you're asking.

It just seemed like your anger was so over the top that you'd end up with high blood pressure in no time and no job is worth getting sick over. Anyway I sincerely wish you the best of luck breaking into this market.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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shmoop said:
Hello RUI, I am fucking furious right now. So I started growing about a year ago, with money signs in my eyes hearing numbers like 2800-3200 a lb... I started small with just a 400w in my closet and then gradually kept stepping up until I got to the setup I have now which is a 600 and a 1000 in a small room(not using the 400 atm) in a perpetual grow. So this last harvest was a personal best at 10 ounces off the 1000... I know I can do better but its only like my 4th time. And it turned out perfect.. real bomb, I was even able to flush a little more than 2 weeks. So finally feeling confident enough to take my stuff around to the clubs I set out on my adventure. Only to get low ball after low ball... I'm talking super low balls... like a donkey with elephantitis. I had one dude offer me 900 for a half pound... I had one dude offer me 300 for 5 ounces(which would be about 900 a lb FOR FUCKING 100W INDOOR)... the rest just said no thanks. Why do they make this shit look so lucrative in the media and what not.. then you start growing and it seems impossible to even make what it cost you to fucking grow it...

So what the fuck? Anyone else have this same experience? Am I just going to the wrong places? Why does this shit feel like a pyramid scheme-type scam to me? I swear to god every place I was in had more vendors than customers waiting and they were all the same age as me with the same nervous hopeful look on their face.

I also took the liberty of checking out a lot of the places "top shelf" shit and mine could easily just as good or better. I even took the time to dry it slow and cure it a little. I had a dude tell me they would only sell my stuff for 25 an eight... then I go look at the menu and I see 450/oz 450/oz 420/oz 420/oz 400/oz 390/oz 380/oz 360/oz 350/oz then like 250 for generic outdoor shit... So are they aloud to do this? Just lie to people?

Plus aren't they non profit? How the fuck do all these places charge tax??? Why is it they can (supposedly) buy a pound for 900-1800 of indoor then go sell it for like 4500 minimum... Thats price gouging... The average gross profit any company makes on a product is 60% more like 7% if you want to talk about net profit... But these fucking guys are turning shit around for at least 200% gross profit? AND they don't pay taxes cuz they are non profit? That just seems criminal to me...

So I guess there's a lot there... But I'm starting to feel like all the fuckin drug dealers just moved into cannabis clubs... act like its some booming industry that needs all the growers and suppliers it can get... They show nice little wholesome mom and pop growers on fucking csnbc and msnbc specials and shit who "oh gee golly were just down on there luck and started growing then everything magically worked out..." I think its all bullshit... I think the clubs supply themselves... fuckin trick hopeful people into growing it to make a living as a "vendor" then you go in there and they just spit in your face and dont give a fuck if you come back or not cuz they never needed your fuckin weed in the first place... I bet all these assholes are the same people who own the hydroponic stores... its probably just a big run around scam...

I hope that I am wrong and have just been unlucky in my selection... but I have invested so much into this and it was kinda like a last house on the block effort for me to do something with my failure of a life. I'm about to go straight denzel washington in this mother fucker
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Church's are non profit to.
 
shmoop

shmoop

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curious2garden said:
Yeah and the DEA is capitalizing on just that type of misunderstanding in their rhetoric lately. That is so angering, but I digress, sorry.



Ok, you just seemed so angry here I didn't figure you could keep that much anger completely hidden.



That's what I mean about emotion hindering you. For all you know he has all a plethora of top shelf growers. But he just low balled you to see if he could get some more cheaply since he didn't 'need' any.

You can't take anyone's refusal of your product personally. Instead just market like a pro and make the rounds of all the potential sales outlets close by you ever so often. Things change, your reputation will grow. You may hit that dispensary when they have a bunch of low & mids and need top and then they'll pay what you're asking.

It just seemed like your anger was so over the top that you'd end up with high blood pressure in no time and no job is worth getting sick over. Anyway I sincerely wish you the best of luck breaking into this market.
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haha thanks man, I appreciate your well thought out responses. And you are totally right about that one place. I feel even that place I left in a manner I could totally go back. The guy actually told me to come back on my next harvest
 
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echlectica

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REALSTYLES said:
Well unfortunate for you hahahaha I have a Cali state card and can pocess 6 lbs dried Cannabis and 99 plants but I only grow 8 hahahahaha.
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Why is that unfortunate for me? Your situation makes no diference to me, I couldn't care less. You obviousely have issues with people who are older or more experienced that you since you for some reason have a need for me to be lying about my experience, which is neither here nor there. Whatever I actaully get $3500/lb no problem for everything I grow. I get $1200 for quaps and $400 for a zip. Your saying that its unfortunate for me that you come in under limit in a state where you can't get half what I get but your cost of living is five times as high. Yeah thats very unfortunate for me... Thats why people are leaving Cali in droves and moving to Texas.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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echlectica said:
Why is that unfortunate for me? Your situation makes no diference to me, I couldn't care less. You obviousely have issues with people who are older or more experienced that you since you for some reason have a need for me to be lying about my experience, which is neither here nor there. Whatever I actaully get $3500/lb no problem for everything I grow. I get $1200 for quaps and $400 for a zip. Your saying that its unfortunate for me that you come in under limit in a state where you can't get half what I get but your cost of living is five times as high. Yeah thats very unfortunate for me... Thats why people are leaving Cali in droves and moving to Texas.
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Fool I was born in Texas and for leaving Cali those people couldn't afford living here just like you. How old do you think I am?
 
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