How would you control guns?

[lifegoesonbrah]

We don't take kindly to your fancy talk round her

 

[cannabineer]

So don't shoot anything in the asshole. Wow. You really are an expert on EVERYTHING!!! Another self proclaimed "know it all" little bitch on a pot website. This is a good place for someone like you. The way you talk you wouldn't last a single day where i come from. You should start a thread on how to become an over opinionated judgmental fucking retard.

Stop beating around the bush and tell us what you really think. cn

 

[Meowlistenhere]

We don't take kindly to your fancy talk round her

I don't take kindly to people who come at me all personal. If he wants to take it to that level, im going to come right back at him. Am i supposed to be afraid or something and just sit quite while he runs his mouth? I tried to end it a while ago. Even agreed with him. The guy talks like he's the world's foremost expert on every single topic that's brought up. No wonder there's so many people that are afraid to post on here, or end up leaving because they don't want to deal with mouthy prick's like him.

 

[NoDrama]

I don't take kindly to people who come at me all personal. If he wants to take it to that level, im going to come right back at him. Am i supposed to be afraid or something and just sit quite while he runs his mouth? I tried to end it a while ago. Even agreed with him. The guy talks like he's the world's foremost expert on every single topic that's brought up. No wonder there's so many people that are afraid to post on here, or end up leaving because they don't want to deal with mouthy prick's like him.

Its the politics section, try not to take anything personally or it will just eat you up.

 

[Dr.J20]

a secure gun safe. lanza went out to buy his own guns beforehand but didn't because he didn't want to do a background check. his mother left her guns nice and unsecured though.

this may be true, but a secure gun safe (and trigger locks) do entail a delay if one is intruded upon by a violent perpetrator...also, combinations can be decoded, locks picked, keys duplicated, the determined psychopath will only be deterred momentarily by gun safes and trigger locks. Now, whether that deterrence provides the rest of society enough time to figure out what s/he is planning (though stats show most of these people are men), that is another story altogether.

 

[budlover13]

I don't take kindly to people who come at me all personal. If he wants to take it to that level, im going to come right back at him. Am i supposed to be afraid or something and just sit quite while he runs his mouth? I tried to end it a while ago. Even agreed with him. The guy talks like he's the world's foremost expert on every single topic that's brought up. No wonder there's so many people that are afraid to post on here, or end up leaving because they don't want to deal with mouthy prick's like him.

When people come at you on a personal level, ignore it or fight hard. Politics is not for the thin skinned.

 

[Dr.J20]

The question is: how do we address that malice?

universal legalization of cannabis would be a good start....
remember in the 40s when they claimed herb was a danger because it would pacify all of our soldiers (and make everybody love everybody)?

 

[NoDrama]

this may be true, but a secure gun safe (and trigger locks) do entail a delay if one is intruded upon by a violent perpetrator...also, combinations can be decoded, locks picked, keys duplicated, the determined psychopath will only be deterred momentarily by gun safes and trigger locks. Now, whether that deterrence provides the rest of society enough time to figure out what s/he is planning (though stats show most of these people are men), that is another story altogether.

Note that he says emphatically that the guns were left unsecured, but he actually cannot prove that they were, its pure conjecture but buck likes to do those things to confuse the issues.

 

[budlover13]

this may be true, but a secure gun safe (and trigger locks) do entail a delay if one is intruded upon by a violent perpetrator...also, combinations can be decoded, locks picked, keys duplicated, the determined psychopath will only be deterred momentarily by gun safes and trigger locks. Now, whether that deterrence provides the rest of society enough time to figure out what s/he is planning (though stats show most of these people are men), that is another story altogether.

A locked up gun is safe for those who would try to take it.

 

[Dr Kynes]

So don't shoot anything in the asshole. Wow. You really are an expert on EVERYTHING!!! Another self proclaimed "know it all" little bitch on a pot website. This is a good place for someone like you. The way you talk you wouldn't last a single day where i come from. You should start a thread on how to become an over opinionated judgmental fucking retard.

yep. when it comes to baggin critters with a huntin gun, loading yer own ammo, runnin a farm, workin in the feilds, tearing down and rebuilding tractors,,, cars, motorcycles, and forklifts, runnin a combine, loading and driving pack mules, and keeping tools in top shape i am the holder of considerable hard won expertise.

if you wanna know how to pan for gold, mix your own stump blasting powder, or find ancient texts of historical significance on the interwebs io got the hookup on that too.

it must gall you that somebody knows what theyre talkin about, so you go ahead and be butthurt, ill just talk to people worth talking to while you cry in the corner.

good luck with puberty little lady.

i wish you a merry first menses.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Note that he says emphatically that the guns were left unsecured, but he actually cannot prove that they were, its pure conjecture but buck likes to do those things to confuse the issues.

all anybody really knows is:

mom had guns
one ucorroborated report from somebody who says mom babysat for him declares mom had a gun cabinet of some sort
junior got hands on one of moms guns and shot her in the head
junior then went out for his blaze of glory.

no reliable report has yet established that the guns were kept locked up, what sort of gun cabinet they may have been in, or how such a gun cabinet (even a guns safe) would have kept junior out of the goodies when he was clearly more than willing to kill his own mom.

with a $30 power grinder and an hour alone with the goodies i can get into any home gun safe available on the "consumer" market. safes (gun and otherwise) are for protection from fire and sneak theifs. safes (gun and otherwise) are NOT SOLID STEEL thats why they weight only around 500 lbs for the big security models used in most retail establishments and homes, the smaller ones weigh far less.

power tools will cut open "consumer" safes in short order. guns safes will not prevent gun thefts, for the same reasons retail establishments drop their money in a BANK every night. leave the money in the safe overnight and youll come back in the morning to find an empty piece of junk made of fiberglass insulation and twisted metal.

see i know this because when my uncle died, only he knew the combination to his gun safe. me and grandpappy cut it open inside of 30 minutes with a dewalt grinder.

 

[UncleBuck]

Note that he says emphatically that the guns were left unsecured, but he actually cannot prove that they were, its pure conjecture but buck likes to do those things to confuse the issues.

if they were secured, he would not have had access to them, now would he?

i backed off from my earlier language, unlocked or some shit. unlocked and unsecured are not one in the same.

 

[UncleBuck]

all anybody really knows is:

mom had guns
one ucorroborated report from somebody who says mom babysat for him declares mom had a gun cabinet of some sort
junior got hands on one of moms guns and shot her in the head
junior then went out for his blaze of glory.

no reliable report has yet established that the guns were kept locked up, what sort of gun cabinet they may have been in, or how such a gun cabinet (even a guns safe) would have kept junior out of the goodies when he was clearly more than willing to kill his own mom.

with a $30 power grinder and an hour alone with the goodies i can get into any home gun safe available on the "consumer" market. safes (gun and otherwise) are for protection from fire and sneak theifs. safes (gun and otherwise) are NOT SOLID STEEL thats why they weight only around 500 lbs for the big security models used in most retail establishments and homes, the smaller ones weigh far less.

power tools will cut open "consumer" safes in short order. guns safes will not prevent gun thefts, for the same reasons retail establishments drop their money in a BANK every night. leave the money in the safe overnight and youll come back in the morning to find an empty piece of junk made of fiberglass insulation and twisted metal.

see i know this because when my uncle died, only he knew the combination to his gun safe. me and grandpappy cut it open inside of 30 minutes with a dewalt grinder.

even the shitty ones seem like a great deterrent.

you'll never stop a determined criminal, but you can deter a great percentage of the not so determined ones.

i build my defense systems with that in mind.

 

[UncleBuck]

this may be true, but a secure gun safe (and trigger locks) do entail a delay if one is intruded upon by a violent perpetrator...also, combinations can be decoded, locks picked, keys duplicated, the determined psychopath will only be deterred momentarily by gun safes and trigger locks. Now, whether that deterrence provides the rest of society enough time to figure out what s/he is planning (though stats show most of these people are men), that is another story altogether.

do you have to have a gun strapped to you in order to sleep?

how about just sitting on the night table?

if someone wants into my house (and in summer, even my yard), i will know well before they get within 50 feet of me. that gives me plenty of time to prepare.

and when i say prepare, that means grabbing my axe and sending the dog out.

 

[Dr Kynes]

even the shitty ones seem like a great deterrent.

you'll never stop a determined criminal, but you can deter a great percentage of the not so determined ones.

i build my defense systems with that in mind.

junior was by any measure "Determined" to have his Blaze Of Glory.

using this twat as an example of the need for gun storage laws is therefore moot.

gun cabinets gun safes and gun trigger locks only serve to deterr accidents and make self defense use more difficult.

if you, like myself, were to go off into the wilds panning for gold in a region which is inhabited by Bears, Mountain Lions, Rattlesnakes, and Deliverance style Redneck ManRapers would you carry a firearm, and if so, would you keep it secured by a triggerlock "for safety"?

 

[ginwilly]

do you have to have a gun strapped to you in order to sleep?

how about just sitting on the night table?

if someone wants into my house (and in summer, even my yard), i will know well before they get within 50 feet of me. that gives me plenty of time to prepare.

and when i say prepare, that means grabbing my axe and sending the dog out.

What do you do if there are four of them? I mean besides watching your wife being molested.

 

[Doer]

The question is can you keep that axe?

If I can control my fear I can disarm an axe wielder. It is too heavy in the inertial swing path

Get a tactical tomahawk

 

[kelly4]

How come 'assault weapons' aren't called 'tactical peace keepers'?

 

[Mr Neutron]

It is too heavy in the inertial swing path

His weighs 20 pounds.

 

[kelly4]

His weighs 20 pounds.

Buck plans on getting robbed by a guy armed with a bowling ball.