600W C99 Organic Scrog

[Mechanical]

I hope 7" isn't to close for them. Are you running a cool tube? I'm planning on getting a 400w cool tube in the very near future.. So knowing that they can handle 450w at 7" will give me a little advance input for the future.

Oh ya heat wise I could go way closer than 7". I put the thermometer directly under the glass(6" air cooled hood) and it wasn't any hotter than 7" or 12" away. I had to heat my house up a little to get the room to 77. At 71 ambient the rooms temp was 75. I think it was just a lot of light all the sudden for the smaller one. The big one looked fine. The lights come on in an hour so I'll see what 20 hours of HPS looks like. This was their last 20 hour cycle. 18/6 till flower.

 

[Mechanical]

And at what distance is light bleaching a concern? There is no difference in 75% and 100% of power heat wise so I could have them touching the glass at 600w for the entire grow. So how close is too close?

 

[Mechanical]

I see a little more growth.. Looks promising

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[Jman305]

Im also going to be buying some UVB bulbs soon. Still tring to figure out how to hang them and what size to get but do you think I should wait until flower or is their any benefit other than the increase to resin production(sunblock)? My last grow had an 18'' UVB during flower only and the buds closest to the UVB had alot more resin. This time I want to be able to cover the whole canopy or try to.

MH produces small amounts of UVB. There are now enhanced blue HPS bulbs for full grow and 10K bulbs made just for ripening stage.

 

[Jman305]

Well I'm not looking now, but I am following a couple organic grows right now, and I've been seeing alot about the roots organics.

Don't know anything about roots other than that it gets a lot of good reviews where I'm at, too. FF still sells the same here, though. IMO Coco coir, EWC, High P Bat guano, mycos, Alfalfa meal, as a soil base and GO nutes or another preferred organic brand of nutes and a proper 10-14 day flush of plain water and you will never have yourself a smoother, more full flavored cannabis experience. Never forget the micro nutes, they enhance the subtleties. And silica is a very important nutrient as well.

 

[Mechanical]

MH produces small amounts of UVB. There are now enhanced blue HPS bulbs for full grow and 10K bulbs made just for ripening stage.

My HPS has the 25% increase in blue. MH do have some UVB but not really enough to match the suns and my light is in a sealed hood so the glass would filter it out. Pretty much gotta go with UVB bulbs if you want a good increase. Those 10k bulbs do look interesting though.

 

[ChesusRice]

Even with the 10k bulbs you have to take the glass off

If you are running a filter then exhausting said filter thru the hood, it will defeat the purpose of the filter

 

[Mechanical]

Even with the 10k bulbs you have to take the glass off

If you are running a filter then exhausting said filter thru the hood, it will defeat the purpose of the filter

Are you talking about a carbon filter for smell? My setup is carbon filter->fan->hood->underneath my house.. I'm not sure what other filter you could be talking about. I think I have it set up the way most people do unless they are running a sealed room. Then the filter is just a scrubber. If I took my filter off I would be dumping straight grow room smell out and around my house would smell like dank dank.

I don't know much about the 10k lights though. Why are you supposed to not use glass? I'm guessing the glass blocks some of the light the 10k provides?

 

[ChesusRice]

Are you talking about a carbon filter for smell? My setup is carbon filter->fan->hood->underneath my house.. I'm not sure what other filter you could be talking about. I think I have it set up the way most people do unless they are running a sealed room. Then the filter is just a scrubber. If I took my filter off I would be dumping straight grow room smell out and around my house would smell like dank dank.

I don't know much about the 10k lights though. Why are you supposed to not use glass? I'm guessing the glass blocks some of the light the 10k provides?

glass filters UV radiation. take your glass of your filter is no good

 

[Mechanical]

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Oh ok. I thought you were talking about my air filter.. As far as the glass goes its kind of a trade off. I can take the glass off but then I would have to raise the light a lot because of heat so I'd be losing penetration.. That's why I was gonna just buy UVB lamps. I'll be able to keep the light closer and get the UVB.

 

[puffdatchronic]

i def see some difference ..she'll take off now ,she loves you now for turning the hps on

 

[Mechanical]

i def see some difference ..she'll take off now ,she loves you now for turning the hps on

They better love me or else lol

 

[Mechanical]

Love training! Lower nodes are making their way to the screen faster now with the HPS on. Gotta stay on top of these big ass fan leaves though cause they are seriously getting in the way lol. The way they are growing I would guess they will be ready to flip in about 2 weeks. They will be 2 months old when I started to flower. Want them to be as mature as possible when they start to flower for potency and yield and that looks to be about where they will be. Happy man

 

[puffdatchronic]

can't wait to compare bud porn..

 

[Mechanical]

can't wait to compare bud porn..

Me either!! I can't wait till I see some buds starting to form. I told myself I wanted to be able to get 3 harvests a year and I should be able to do that.. Are you gonna harvest on day 52 like everyone says to do or are you gonna go by the trichomes?

 

[Thundercat]

Hey mechanical those are looking really nice, I can totally see the differance. I personally would always go by what your plants look like not what anyone says.

I also just sub'd to puffdat's thread, I'm checkin out all the C99 around.

 

[puffdatchronic]

Me either!! I can't wait till I see some buds starting to form. I told myself I wanted to be able to get 3 harvests a year and I should be able to do that.. Are you gonna harvest on day 52 like everyone says to do or are you gonna go by the trichomes?

Good question.Like thundercat says you should always go with the trichs .Nobodies day 52 will be the same ,i wouldn't have thought.. but i don't know whether thats the right way to think or not.I got a jewelers loup to look at trichs for last time and i couldn't see any trichs through it so i just pulled it down at day 56 according to the breeders discription.

if i can see trichs with this damn loupe thing i might try and go by the trichs ,but if not i might just take it to day 56.I have never seen a report that says to take c99 to 9 weeks.

 

[Mechanical]

Hey mechanical those are looking really nice, I can totally see the differance. I personally would always go by what your plants look like not what anyone says.

I also just sub'd to puffdat's thread, I'm checkin out all the C99 around.

There does seem to be a few of them going around huh? Thanks I'm happy with them right now I know what you mean about reading your plants but thats the thing with these c99's. Your supposed to harvest at 52 days to get that c99 trippy head high people talk about even though they dont seem done. If you wait they loose that and just turn into a ''just ok'' indica high. Trust me I love pictures so yall will see them and help me decide when to pull em lol..

 

[puffdatchronic]

female seeds are a reputable company and when they say 7-8 weeks ,i think you can pull any time between that and it will be good.Is there going to be much difference between a day 52 and a 56?? .. its only 4 days..

i even emailed female seeds about it and asked whether taking it to 60 days would add anything and they replied quite simply ,we advise you to go to 7-8 weeks.. so maybe there is something to the 52 day harvest


fuck it i'll probably be dying to chop by then and take it at 52 anyway..

 

[Mechanical]

Good question.Like thundercat says you should always go with the trichs .Nobodies day 52 will be the same ,i wouldn't have thought.. but i don't know whether thats the right way to think or not.I got a jewelers loup to look at trichs for last time and i couldn't see any trichs through it so i just pulled it down at day 56 according to the breeders discription.

if i can see trichs with this damn loupe thing i might try and go by the trichs ,but if not i might just take it to day 56.I have never seen a report that says to take c99 to 9 weeks.

Well I'll just take notes on yours cause yours will be done before mine Im gonna buy one of those huge classroom style microscopes and bring it in the grow room with me lol.. After 4 months I want these to be perfect!!