Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???
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Slab
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I came across this article in High Times online I thought might be helpful to some..not to others obviously. Enjoy!
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I prune just as he says in the article. Not all leaves go contrary to the belief of some.
Namaste
This is day 35 of flower on plants that have been stripped of fan leaves twice. The sugar leaves have been left to do their jobs. (whatever that may be)
Those upper colas look Awesome, you will have smoke for a long time. A second harvest of the lower branches should yield a good bunch also. Looks like you have enough leaf to make that happen thankfully.
Looks like about -8 ounces if there is a betting pool.
what's the strain?
giantsfan24
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3 different strains...Blue Cheese...smells incredible, Purple Super Silver Haze and Kryptonite. In my last grow where the plants were shorter, I netted 10.4oz of bud only. I didn't keep any shake. This time I'll be using the under buds and sugar leaves for budder and making edibles.View attachment 2483919
I came across this article in High Times online I thought might be helpful to some..not to others obviously. Enjoy!
Click here
I prune just as he says in the article. Not all leaves go contrary to the belief of some.
Namaste
This is day 35 of flower on plants that have been stripped of fan leaves twice. The sugar leaves have been left to do their jobs. (whatever that may be
Those upper colas look Awesome, you will have smoke for a long time. A second harvest of the lower branches should yield a good bunch also. Looks like you have enough leaf to make that happen thankfully.
Looks like about -8 ounces if there is a betting pool.
what's the strain?
My use is quite small so the bud could actually deteriorate before I can go through that much.
Namaste
kinetic
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How far along? Bud sites look like mine from 3 weeks after flip(not first sign of pistils) without defloro.
HeartlandHank
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I have made a recent discovery with this OP question...
Energy producers or blockers of light...?
Energy producers for sure...
I was convinced for a long time that they blocked light, and I finally figured out why I was getting low down popcorn and it has nothing to do with penetration of light to the lower buds... It was TOO MANY BUD SITES.
I was doing heavy LST with many strains to fill out the canopy. (Which I have come to find out was not necessary).
The LST and Topping of a plant makes the number of bud sites explode. Many many bud sites.
So this round I took 2 strains that I have been LST'ing for a long long time and I just grew them straight up. (See grow journals in Sig... SSH and NL) I pinched a tiny bit of growth out at wk2 flower. I am growing 4 plants per 600 hps... around week 5 I pulled back the main colas that were xtra tall. Just a little bit, enough to make for a nice level canopy.
ALL of my buds are maturing at the same time, density and color. It was not the lack of light that was making those pale popcorn buds... it was an overwhelming and unnatural number of bud sites.
With this lighter LST, I have 1/4 of the bud sites I once had with Buds on average at least 4 times their size when LST'd.
Even the lowest buds are fat, dark and maturing at the same rate.
It is possible that my recent switch to a high N feed is making for less bud sites as well. not sure. But I do know that what I have here is the way I will continue to grow.
Anyone heard of less P and K making fewer bud sites.?
All things listed above are just theories... I am not saying the I am 100% correct and you are 100% wrong. I'm always open-minded, never set in my ways... that attitude has done more for my yields than anything else has.. The more book/forum learned stuff I forget the more mason jars I am buying at harvest time.
I'll admit... lollipopping works... yield is not hurt by it... but the thing is that it is completely not necessary... it's fixing a problem that you created. like driving to the tire place, parking your car, and shoving a knife into your tire.
Leave your tires alone and they will do just fine.
::: Excuse my rant... I have had 6 cups of coffee since 6 am. 6 measuring cups... not mugs. haha. :::
Energy producers or blockers of light...?
Energy producers for sure...
I was convinced for a long time that they blocked light, and I finally figured out why I was getting low down popcorn and it has nothing to do with penetration of light to the lower buds... It was TOO MANY BUD SITES.
I was doing heavy LST with many strains to fill out the canopy. (Which I have come to find out was not necessary).
The LST and Topping of a plant makes the number of bud sites explode. Many many bud sites.
So this round I took 2 strains that I have been LST'ing for a long long time and I just grew them straight up. (See grow journals in Sig... SSH and NL) I pinched a tiny bit of growth out at wk2 flower. I am growing 4 plants per 600 hps... around week 5 I pulled back the main colas that were xtra tall. Just a little bit, enough to make for a nice level canopy.
ALL of my buds are maturing at the same time, density and color. It was not the lack of light that was making those pale popcorn buds... it was an overwhelming and unnatural number of bud sites.
With this lighter LST, I have 1/4 of the bud sites I once had with Buds on average at least 4 times their size when LST'd.
Even the lowest buds are fat, dark and maturing at the same rate.
It is possible that my recent switch to a high N feed is making for less bud sites as well. not sure. But I do know that what I have here is the way I will continue to grow.
Anyone heard of less P and K making fewer bud sites.?
All things listed above are just theories... I am not saying the I am 100% correct and you are 100% wrong. I'm always open-minded, never set in my ways... that attitude has done more for my yields than anything else has.. The more book/forum learned stuff I forget the more mason jars I am buying at harvest time.
I'll admit... lollipopping works... yield is not hurt by it... but the thing is that it is completely not necessary... it's fixing a problem that you created. like driving to the tire place, parking your car, and shoving a knife into your tire.
Leave your tires alone and they will do just fine.
::: Excuse my rant... I have had 6 cups of coffee since 6 am. 6 measuring cups... not mugs. haha. :::
PJ Diaz
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The thing is all this stuff is super strain dependent, and even within that genotype specific, and even further phenotype specific. You really can't say that one way or the other is the best. It really depends on the personality of the plant, as well as environmental conditions.
keebo3000
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that was on maybe third day of third week.. and yes that is exactly where they are supposed to look like at that time the only difference so far is that the nodes are much tighter this grow than in previous and the flowers lower on the stalk are also larger
kinetic
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Just out of curiosity where are you're pics? You're here allot railing against UB but only in text and logic, never any pictoral evidence. I'm not trying to flame, just curious like I said.
PJ Diaz
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Is it really that hard for you to look two pages back before saying dumb stuff?
Look> [url]https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/521700-fan-leafs-blockers-light-energy-85.html#post8536467
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I've posted lots of pics if you take the time to look.
kinetic
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So you rail on UB for being nasty to people then act the same way. Classy.
Those pics are weak man, not the plant but the overall pic. Lets see what the whole plant looks like. Selective photography doesn't really paint the whole picture does it?
PJ Diaz
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I want to be your personal penguin.
kinetic
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I want you to be my personal mammoth basil grower.
kinetic
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I came in trying to be civil that is all. I'm sorry I didn't go through all 1700+ posts of yours. I respect the fact you disagree, I believe in disention. You act like you got a rash though. Take care dude, your colas looks good btw, sorry for asking you a question that seemed valid.
PJ Diaz
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Bullshit. You came in looking to pick a fight and I popped you in the nose before you could blink. Now you're getting all pissy and shit. Suck it up and go home you little bitch.
Based on you're recent posts, this little spit of yours here sure doesn't seem out of character for you: https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/613315-bear.html
kinetic
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Read what you quoted me saying and your response out loud. Then honeslty answer who's got the attitude here.
PJ Diaz
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Again, I want to be your personal penguin.
..and if you don't know what that means, I'd suggest you figure it the fuck out.
PJ Diaz
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These 4 plants seem to be doing pretty good despite partial defoliation at 14 and 42 days after 12/12 flip.
The one in the rear left is yellowing a bit earlier than I'd like. It's a tester of Veg+Bloom only vs my standard nute regimen.
I'm not saying that my buds got huger from leaf removal, but they didn't get any smaller than those from the same cut in the past either. Air circulation is much improved without all those leaves in the way too.
The one in the rear left is yellowing a bit earlier than I'd like. It's a tester of Veg+Bloom only vs my standard nute regimen.
I'm not saying that my buds got huger from leaf removal, but they didn't get any smaller than those from the same cut in the past either. Air circulation is much improved without all those leaves in the way too.
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