American Education System

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
You might have a point if I hadnt drifted in and out of this place 4-6 times over the last few years.Troll..
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remember how you were telling me just a day or two before the election how the polls were skewed and the liberal media was lying to me and romney was going to win with 290+ electoral votes?:lol:deluded little child.
 
cheechako

cheechako

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I think we should end the war on drugs, and funnel much of that money we waste there into primary education.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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UncleBuck said:
remember how you were telling me just a day or two before the election how the polls were skewed and the liberal media was lying to me and romney was going to win with 290+ electoral votes?:lol:deluded little child.
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Remember how I dedicated a whole post to saying you were right?

Troll...

Going to bed... I guess you will accuse me of running away again... LOL!
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
Remember how I dedicated a whole post to saying you were right?Troll...Going to bed... I guess you will accuse me of running away again... LOL!
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lol. one post does not excuse a month of delusion. and bedtime at 7:48 pm? you grounded right now?
 
laughingduck

laughingduck

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unohu69 said:
The nazis had to figure out a way to brainwash the children. the current schools system was the result. The schools are not there to turn out educated critical thinking individuals. It is there to manufacture braindead morons who cant think for themselves, and are perfectly happy following the crowd/mob rules mentality that is so prevalent in todays society.
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And now we end up electing morons to congress, and Obama.
 
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ChesusRice

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Robfather said:
The highest performing school systems in the world are in Asia, and the reason for that is because those school systems invest in their teachers. Those school systems pay their teachers well and regard the teaching profession as one with prestige. They also require their teachers to take 360 hours of professional development each year.
If American students are going to compete in this new innovative and technological society, they have to produce top quality students, and this is not what they have been currently producing. In their current system, teachers are not compensated nor recognized as highly as they should be, and bad teachers are not weeded out of schools for re-training or placed in different areas where they can be more beneficial. Teachers in the United States should be compensated much more than they are today because they have the difficult job of teaching students who come to school with a myriad of issues that complicate the teaching process. Teachers today have to deal with children who are homeless, have various emotional and psychological problems, not to mention the violence teachers face from their students in the classroom.
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NOt quite correct. The biggest factor in their success is Parent involvement and survival. From personal experience I can tell you that the kids study harder because they enjoy it and they have a mother and father that is pushing them. And to my comment on survival. The familys and the kids know that without an education they will be subject to a life of really really shitty jobs. And they see it everyday. Although most countries have some form of welfare. People that are poor in Asia actually starve to death
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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UncleBuck said:
yeah, always best to get out and mow lawns early, even in the winter. don't want to be getting burned up in the midday sun.
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LOL! If I mowed lawns that would be a consideration...

I am not required to justify my life to you.

Maybe if you got a real job you wouldnt have to spend so much time and energy bleeding your impotent rage all over the internet.
 
Robfather

Robfather

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ChesusRice said:
NOt quite correct. The biggest factor in their success is Parent involvement and survival. From personal experience I can tell you that the kids study harder because they enjoy it and they have a mother and father that is pushing them. And to my comment on survival. The familys and the kids know that without an education they will be subject to a life of really really shitty jobs. And they see it everyday. Although most countries have some form of welfare. People that are poor in Asia actually starve to death
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Asia doesn't mean exclusively China or India. Both Japan and South Korea have aid programs for low income families. Japan's un employment is 4.1% versus the US at 4.5%. Pretty sure kids as well as their families in the US see what happens to your job prospects without a proper education. Just look out the window.
Of course parental involvement helps a great deal however without proper teachers and a proper learning environment, all the parental support in the world isn't going to help those students. I can also tell you from personal experience that Asian kids 'enjoy' (Read: hate) school just as much as American or Canadian kids. Sure, pressure at home compels them to succeed but without proper education and teachers, what would they be succeeding at??
Lastly I would like to add that the percentage of citizens below the poverty line in the US is .1% higher than in south Korea and on par with Japan: http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=69.
I appreciate your opinion, just make sure it's an informed one.
 
greenswag

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A lot of the problem isnt just the system. Its the parents and the KIDS, oh god forbid its the kids fault. In highschool it has becone cool to not care about anything but drugs and sex. In the local hs 75% of the underclassmen are failibg for the year. The ones passing are just getting by with the exception of the few kids who give a damn. This is by no fault of teachers either, you have to fuckin try to fail here. I can and do sleep in almost all my classes, dont take notes etc, and have straight a's. They have dumbed it down to the point anyone can pass because we are funded on scores, and these lazy pricks are still failing. I feel bad for when this, my, generation has to step up to the plate because our country is fucked.
 
fb360

fb360

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rooky1985 said:
I project trades (electrician, mechanic, plumber, etc) to really start competing with the 200k plus jobs regularly
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Won't happen, ever, unless the 200k jobs go to 500k jobs... Basic logic informs us that anything the electrician can do, the electrical engineer can do with his eye closed and shitfaced drunk. Same with fluid dynamic engineers vs plumbers, or mechanical engineers and mechanics...

Trade experience is not interchangeable with mathematical reasoning, derivation and knowledge, however that knowledge is interchangeable with experience.
I'd like to see any electrician write the 2nd/3rd order mathematical representation of even a basic switch. Any dumbass electrical engineer can do basic V=IR. That's all an electrician does ALL day. Not hard to keep track of 3 variables, especially seeing has how 1 of them is constant (voltage), and one is physically inherent and is rarely adjusted (resistance)...
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Robfather said:
Asia doesn't mean exclusively China or India. Both Japan and South Korea have aid programs for low income families. Japan's un employment is 4.1% versus the US at 4.5%. Pretty sure kids as well as their families in the US see what happens to your job prospects without a proper education. Just look out the window.
Of course parental involvement helps a great deal however without proper teachers and a proper learning environment, all the parental support in the world isn't going to help those students. I can also tell you from personal experience that Asian kids 'enjoy' (Read: hate) school just as much as American or Canadian kids. Sure, pressure at home compels them to succeed but without proper education and teachers, what would they be succeeding at??
Lastly I would like to add that the percentage of citizens below the poverty line in the US is .1% higher than in south Korea and on par with Japan: http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=69.
I appreciate your opinion, just make sure it's an informed one.
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US unemployment is at 4.5%?

Gimme whatever you're smoking bro.
 
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ChesusRice

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Robfather said:
Asia doesn't mean exclusively China or India. Both Japan and South Korea have aid programs for low income families. Japan's un employment is 4.1% versus the US at 4.5%. Pretty sure kids as well as their families in the US see what happens to your job prospects without a proper education. Just look out the window.
Of course parental involvement helps a great deal however without proper teachers and a proper learning environment, all the parental support in the world isn't going to help those students. I can also tell you from personal experience that Asian kids 'enjoy' (Read: hate) school just as much as American or Canadian kids. Sure, pressure at home compels them to succeed but without proper education and teachers, what would they be succeeding at??
Lastly I would like to add that the percentage of citizens below the poverty line in the US is .1% higher than in south Korea and on par with Japan: http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=69.
I appreciate your opinion, just make sure it's an informed one.
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Speaking from experience in the Philippines and Thailand
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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fb360 said:
Won't happen, ever, unless the 200k jobs go to 500k jobs... Basic logic informs us that anything the electrician can do, the electrical engineer can do with his eye closed and shitfaced drunk. Same with fluid dynamic engineers vs plumbers, or mechanical engineers and mechanics...

Trade experience is not interchangeable with mathematical reasoning, derivation and knowledge, however that knowledge is interchangeable with experience.
I'd like to see any electrician write the 2nd/3rd order mathematical representation of even a basic switch. Any dumbass electrical engineer can do basic V=IR. That's all an electrician does ALL day. Not hard to keep track of 3 variables, especially seeing has how 1 of them is constant (voltage), and one is physically inherent and is rarely adjusted (resistance)...
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It's happening now $200k for an Electrician in the mining sector is your base starting salary. Electricians only have to do an extra year of uni to become engineers.

I've yet to see an electrical engineer master even the proper workings of a left handed screwdriver.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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echelon1k1 said:
It's happening now $200k for an Electrician in the mining sector is your base starting salary. Electricians only have to do an extra year of uni to become engineers.

I've yet to see an electrical engineer master even the proper workings of a left handed screwdriver.
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That's 200k in Aussie Monopoly money tho...

What is it in a REAL currency?

EDIT: Wow currencies have fluctuated a bit since I last looked, that works out at 215,000 USD or 157,000 EUR.

I stand corrected.
 
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