Why didn't other species evolve intelectually like we did?

Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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It seems as if neither Corso, nor Brim, are interested in actually studying biology. Evolution/natural selection is the foundation of biology.

I think it is good for you guys to doubt, i say doubt everything... but i would steer clear of making assumptions on mere thought rather than scientific inquiry and understanding.

If either of you wish to further your understanding of such processes, it is detrimental that you familiarize yourself with the basics of biology, and increase your knowledge about how natural selection works.

If you don't do that, you'll end up looking like a pompous fool.


Here are some sources if you are actually interested in learning rather than just sighting an opinion based off of hearsay and imagination------

http://melpor.hubpages.com/hub/Biology-is-Nothing-without-Evolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

http://www.sicb.org/careers/systematic.php3

(The domestication of dogs is the direct result of the human animal taking natural selection into it's own hands)
 
Corso312

Corso312

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I have no idea if man domesticated the wolf or not, but as I said on page I have only questions n theories,...no Answers...but ape-man are very far apart....wolf-dog are damn near identical.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Corso312 said:
A dog is nearly identical to a wolf in looks,genetic makeup and behavior...apes are light years behind humans...that technology that you scoff at...humans invented ...while apes are still throwing feces at each other and living in trees...what's hard to understand?
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Yep, nearly identical...:roll:

What's hard to understand is the logic you are using. You seem to be making a value judgment wrt to the type of survival mechanism that humans eventually evolved. You seem to imply that if the great apes didn't evolve the same way we did, there's something wrong. Is it a defect that some dinosaurs evolved intelligence while others didn't? Why don't cows have as much intelligence as lions? Is that a defect in their evolution? As I offered, I can help you try to understand evolutionary theory, but I'm not sure you're really interested.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Corso312 said:
I have no idea if man domesticated the wolf or not, but as I said on page I have only questions n theories,...no Answers...but ape-man are very far apart....wolf-dog are damn near identical.
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You are also talking about millions of years between ape-human common ancestor and tens of thousands between dog-wolf. We EXPECT them to be farther apart.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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To classify accurately, humans are apes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

Apes are Old World anthropoid mammals, more specifically a clade of tailless catarrhine primates, belonging to the biological superfamily Hominoidea. The apes are native to Africa and South-east Asia. Apes are the largest primates and the orangutan, an ape, is the largest living arboreal animal. Hominoids are traditionally forest dwellers, although chimpanzees may range into savanna, and the extinct australopithecines were likely also savanna inhabitants, inferred from their morphology. Humans inhabit almost every terrestrial habitat.
Hominoidea contains two families of living (extant) species:

 
Corso312

Corso312

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Lot of similarities between that hot dog n the wolf....one was bred to navigate tunnels n have badgers chase them out the other was unaltered ...what is your point?
 
Corso312

Corso312

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You can post all the human ape science you like, and it could all be true ...or we could be an alien experament...nobody truly. Knows.
 
Dislexicmidget2021

Dislexicmidget2021

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We more than likely were not introduced by alien lifeforms.Odds are we evolved as did all other living organisms on the planet,we just happened to have evolved in the lowest probable manner in which we received our capacity's as a bi-product.I put my money on natural evolution.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Corso312 said:
Lot of similarities between that hot dog n the wolf....one was bred to navigate tunnels n have badgers chase them out the other was unaltered ...what is your point?
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Derp-de-do. I guess they are not so similar as one was 'altered.'

Chimps and humans are so far apart that even 18th century zoologists had a hard time classifying us as the most closely related species....oh wait, no they didn't. DNA came onto the scene in the middle of the 20th century and confirmed what biologists had already deduced hundreds of years earlier. Your reliance on human technology as a benchmark for what separates us biologically is a red-herring. Technology is not biology. It is your own anthropic biases that makes you think we are more different than we actually are.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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No you stupid fuck, like I said three times...I never claimed to have any answers...all I know for a fact is that nobody really has all the answers.
 
SnakeByte

SnakeByte

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Well, if you do your actual research, you'll find out that "humans" evolved mostly all independently.
Meaning, for a long long long ass time, many of the humans didn't have contact with other humans from other continents.

Which means, that the amount of races there are, is the proof that other "animals" evolved in much the same way.

It's just that a "humans" genetic make up (Through breeding, viruses, and certain nutrients that we consumed) allowed us to evolve our brains more than most.

But like other's said, it's not as if no other species hasn't evolved intelligently. The cat, dog, apes, monkeys, elephants, dolphin, and many others have evolved NOTICEABLY more intelligent in just the last 100 years.

The main things that set us apart from other animals is:
- Our higher ability of cognitive thought and the Ability to communicate by written word and relay more information to future generations

When an ape will be able to teach it's young to read and write, then they will basically be on the same playing field as us mentally, however never fully genetically.

It all started with painting pictures on walls.

I do believe it's called Anthropology.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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How do you know cats n dogs n cows have become more intelligent? ....to answer the op question ...I don't know..and neither does anyone else...most have theories, but in 200 years those theories could easily change.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Corso312 said:
How do you know cats n dogs n cows have become more intelligent? ....to answer the op question ...I don't know..and neither does anyone else...most have theories, but in 200 years those theories could easily change.
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Does evolution not set well with your core belief system or something? What do you have against it? What is your alternative way of thinking if you wish to claim that humans did not evolve from natural selection?
 
Corso312

Corso312

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I have no problem with evolution, I believe it to be the soundest theory available ....but is a theory not a fact...I just don't claim to be a know it all, the op asked a good? N I don't have the answer...just spitballing. Ideas here.
 
SnakeByte

SnakeByte

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Corso312 said:
How do you know cats n dogs n cows have become more intelligent?.
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Um simple observation...? So you think they are dumber than 100 yrs ago? Not what I've noticed...
So if you remove the impossible, whatever is left (However improbable) must be the truth... So since those animals have not gotten dumber, and they haven't exactly stayed the same, then My original statement must be true.
 
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