Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

[DiverseSanctuary]

if eating a thing which contains genetic material, and that genetic material altered the eater, cows would be made of grasses, and i would be at least 30% Dorito by now.

there were claims that the estrogen-like substances found in soy were altering the hormonal balance of people who ate soy products. this was FALSE, and it is just as FALSE for GMO's.

if you wish to discuss "false pregnancies in cows who eat GMO feed" then MAKE THAT CASE!

provide evidence, argue the FACTS rather than dropping yet another claim with ZERO substantiation into this already bloated thread.

heres a quick tally of the claims in this thread which have so far not been defended:

GMO feed causes die-offs of livestock herds
GMO feed causes cancer in livestock
GMO feed causes cancer in people who eat livestock fed GMO's
GMO products have caused ANY disease in anything other than targeted pests
GMO causes altered genetic material to infiltrate native plants and animals turning THEM into GMO's
GMO's are being used to target dope
GMO's are being developed to replace our dope with a nefarious substitute
Monsanto is engaged in any plot to steal our dope
UC Davis is engaged in any plot to steal our dope
The federal govt is involved in any plot to use GMO's to steal our dope (not that they wouldnt if it were possible, but it just aint possible, and thus this story is implausible)
GMO dope exists
GMO dope (if it did exist, which it dont) would effect MY dope in MY garden
GMO's caused Bee Colony Collapse Syndrome
GMO CORN specifically caused bee colony collapse syndrome, which is notably crazy since corn is NOT pollinated by bees. this one is just nuts. bees arent involved with corn at all.
GMO cotton is making indian farmers commit suicide
GMO crops are poisonous, and even people in the midst of a famine in africa should not eat it...
GMO Terminator Seeds will destroy all life on earth
GMO Terminator Seeds are even available
pollinating a flower with evil GMO pollen alters the resulting fruit, not just the plant that would grow from the resulting seeds.

and this is just the ones of the top of my head.

do we need MORE baseless unproved wacky claims in this thread?

While that all sounds well and good you do realize how pregnancy is determined in cows and the number we are talking about. Right??? Lol

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

http://www.vetmed.lsu.edu/eiltslotus/theriogenology-5361/bovine_pregnanacy.htm

a man can be ass deep in it and think he knows and still be wrong

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

Ha! I said is it that or is it the Hormones? No one knows! In other words there is room for doubt. Personally, I think it is just that most are eating the grain... and Men don't know half of what they guess at.... Man has not mastered his own DNA or reproduction. Long less the mating process. He hasn't mastered the DNA or reproduction or animals. Yet, you expect me to believe he has mastered the DNA or reproduction of plants. Please...

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

They are experimenting just like doctors and lawyers are practicing

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

Just like Ron was with this thread. With no control over how it turned out in the end

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

remember many of you thought that ended or would end in death lmao!!!

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

and Who knows it could have because where's DNA???

 

[Rancho Cucamonga]

Those supporting GMC obviously have no idea what nature is, or they just don't care about it.

I VOTED NO TO GENETICALLY MODIFIED CANNABIS.

 

[burgertime2010]

You claim a certainty based upon the absence of evidence in others instead of providing it to "make the case." Tell me why we should embrace this? What are we not seeing? leave us enlightened doctor.....You are suspect! You are an unsubstantiated ringer.

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

Sorry but I believe I have more than proved my point here. Just as well as any one else here has. So I bid the all fare well. I will reiterate? This experiment created by a man who obviously thought he was in control of some part of it. Obviously didn't turn out as planned... and for a moment, more than one here feared it might end in death. Yet, it may have... And he = DNA has since gone missing since his melt down. For all those who think men can control life and death or experiments. Peace

 

[Dr Kynes]

While that all sounds well and good you do realize how pregnancy is determined in cows and the number we are talking about. Right??? Lol

http://www.vetmed.lsu.edu/eiltslotus/theriogenology-5361/bovine_pregnanacy.htm

a man can be ass deep in it and think he knows and still be wrong

Ha! I said is it that or is it the Hormones? No one knows! In other words there is room for doubt. Personally, I think it is just that most are eating the grain... and Men don't know half of what they guess at.... Man has not mastered his own DNA or reproduction. Long less the mating process. He hasn't mastered the DNA or reproduction or animals. Yet, you expect me to believe he has mastered the DNA or reproduction of plants. Please...

They are experimenting just like doctors and lawyers are practicing

Just like Ron was with this thread. With no control over how it turned out in the end

remember many of you thought that ended or would end in death lmao!!!

and Who knows it could have because where's DNA???

SEVEN posts to respond to ONE post and all you provided was a single link to a veterinary website with information on ACTUAL PREGNANCY IN COWS.

not a single thing to do with false pregnencies
nothing to do with GMO's
nothing to support yet another false claim of harm from GMO's

you keep throwing out nonsense as if it supports your claims and declaring victory.

heres some links that PROVE GMO's are not only safe, but healtheir for you than organic foods.:

http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/tab1.htm
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Pliny_the_Elder/home.html
http://archive.org/stream/militiaasorganiz00unitrich/militiaasorganiz00unitrich_djvu.txt
http://tomclothier.hort.net/index.html

yep. all these links prove im right.
but only by the rules YOU have established.
sorry sweetie, no take-backs.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Those supporting GMC obviously have no idea what nature is, or they just don't care about it.

I VOTED NO TO GENETICALLY MODIFIED CANNABIS.

you voted on a false assumption.

every claim made by the OP and his cronies has been either abandoned by them, or outright disproved.

there is no plot to make GMO weed and the OP's bill has nothing to do with dope at all.
he used dope as a strawman for his attempt to get potheads on his side, like obama did before the elections (both times) while still letting Eric "Cockbreath" Holder run roughshod over grandmas glaucoma medicine and kids with a single doobie in their pocket at a concert.

you got played.

 

[burgertime2010]

This is a major issue with ramifications that are widespread. It shows wisdom to err on the side of caution.

 

[burgertime2010]

Engineered to sell pesticides.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

Weed is already genetically modified.

They call it selective breeding.

 

[burgertime2010]

i grow my own vegetables. some farmer growing GMO corn 5 miles away doesnt change my vegetable growing ability. the very worst thing somebody else growing GMO corn might do to my garden is pollinate my shit with their shit. and all that will do is make the seeds in my plants different than the cultivar i planted this year if i save seeds and plant em next year. most home gardeners (and ALL farmers) buy their seeds from seed banks, so they know exactly what cultivar they are growing and how it will act. even dope growers poreferr seeds from seed producers, since seeds from your dope may or may not be any good. only experimentation can reveal the results of the pollination process, and it's the same with GMO's. shit son, if a stray grain of pollen from ditchweed rides in on your trouser cuffs and gets loose in your dope patch, youll get 1 seed, and if you plant that seed, it might favour the ditch weed and be crap, or the resulting plant might favour your white widow and be awesome, or it might be an autoflowering plant with OK dope, or, who knows, maybe you will have accidentally created the highly potent SUPER WEED the government has been claiming we got since the 1970's. thats the randomness of sexcual reproduction, but either way it doesnt change the characteristics of the parents at all. just the offspring hidden in a seed. a granny smith apple tree pollinated by a bee who just left a Macintosh apple tree doesnt produce hybrid apples. it produces hybrid SEEDS within the completely un-altered granny smith apple. when you drop a load of jism into your old lady, does your jism transform your old lady into a hybrid of your two genetic codes, or does it create a THIRD related organism? use your head bro, i can tell youre not stupid. also, no, you do NOT know about terminator genes. they are not yet available, and when they finally are released, they just produce sterile seeds in the ordinary completely un-altered crop. if terminator seed technology gets into your dope, all that will happen is your bagseed wont germinate. it will not destroy Herbies seed bank, or put the guys from Dutch Masters in the poorhouse. you would have to CHOOSE to buy terminator seeds, and those seedbanks who sell normal seeds will get all the people who prefer normal non-gmo dope. it's the same in agriculture. some farmers want GMO's, some dont. but niether side has the right to demand the other guys submit. thats un-american.

You are all over the map....are you on tilt? Little too much glass for dinner? Don't tell me what I know and don't know. Assumptions are the mother of disaster....

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

SEVEN posts to respond to ONE post and all you provided was a single link to a veterinary website with information on ACTUAL PREGNANCY IN COWS.

not a single thing to do with false pregnencies
nothing to do with GMO's
nothing to support yet another false claim of harm from GMO's

you keep throwing out nonsense as if it supports your claims and declaring victory.

heres some links that PROVE GMO's are not only safe, but healtheir for you than organic foods.:

http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/tab1.htm
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Pliny_the_Elder/home.html
http://archive.org/stream/militiaasorganiz00unitrich/militiaasorganiz00unitrich_djvu.txt
http://tomclothier.hort.net/index.html

yep. all these links prove im right.
but only by the rules YOU have established.
sorry sweetie, no take-backs.

Once again the Dr. don't know how to read or only reads the parts he thinks applies to him and only the science he provides is reliable... First of all doc, that article explains that in order to check for a calf you must insert your arm in the cows ass and feel for it... despite this being a hands on experience and men thinking they have their finger on it... they are wrong a large percentage of the time. It also give you the percentage of false positives when it comes to early detection.

Cordoba MC, Sartori R, Fricke PM. Assessment of a commercially available early conception factor (ECF) test for determining pregnancy status of dairy cattle. J Dairy Sci. 84:1884-9, 2001.

• 17 non bred
• 18 Day 6 embryo flush cows
• Test sensitivity - 86%
• Specificity - 4%
• Positive predictive value - 49%
• Negative predictive value - 23%
• False-positive - 96%
• False-negative - 14%
• Table
  
  
  Which is considered false pregnancy. 96% of the time men are wrong!!!!!!!!!!! do you get that science Dr ?
  

 

[ginjawarrior]

Once again the Dr. don't know how to read or only reads the parts he thinks applies to him and only the science he provides is reliable... First of all doc, that article explains that in order to check for a calf you must insert your arm in the cows ass and feel for it... despite this being a hands on experience and men thinking they have their finger on it... they are wrong a large percentage of the time. It also give you the percentage of false positives when it comes to early detection.

Cordoba MC, Sartori R, Fricke PM. Assessment of a commercially available early conception factor (ECF) test for determining pregnancy status of dairy cattle. J Dairy Sci. 84:1884-9, 2001.

• 17 non bred
• 18 Day 6 embryo flush cows
• Test sensitivity - 86%
• Specificity - 4%
• Positive predictive value - 49%
• Negative predictive value - 23%
• False-positive - 96%
• False-negative - 14%
• Table
  
  
  Which is considered false pregnancy. 96% of the time men are wrong!!!!!!!!!!! do you get that science Dr ?
  

diverse you had your shit together more when DNA was pulling your strings

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

Is that the best you can come up with. No one was ever pulling my strings http://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/ip_gmo_09_2007_1_.pdf

 

[Dr Kynes]

You are all over the map....are you on tilt? Little too much glass for dinner? Don't tell me what I know and don't know. Assumptions are the mother of disaster....

riiiight.

so, the seriousness of the charge is more important than providing proof that it's true.


GMO's are NOT dangerous to the eater. those claims are unfounded. only PROOF will change that.
somebody else growing GMO's does not alter your right to not grow GMO's in any way.

there is no GMO dope program.

you can still grow all the dirt weed you want, monsanto is not hiding under your bed waiting for the perfect moment to jump out and take your dope.