NavySEALsVet
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Fkn stonedddddddddddd.
El Paso County (Colorado Springs) approves ban on retail pot
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Trousers
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That is just not true. Do you have anything to back that up?
The feds can not make it illegal to grow here without doing away with the Colorado Constitution and the United States Constitution. They do not have the power to over turn a popular vote.
They may have a point about stopping stores because of interstate concerns.
big tobacco can not grow weed better than me. There is no way in hell they can grow weed 10x stronger than what I grow. That is just insane.
Fuck the FDA, they can kiss my pot growing ass. They can not do anything to me.
Fuck the USDA, they can not do anything to me.
You over estimate big tobacco's power.
Even if they can someday become a player, who would buy that shit? Not me. I don't even like to buy from heady dispensaries where I know the growers.
Big companies can not get involved until the feds say they can.
Even if they do, who cares?
There are micro breweries all over this state. You do not have to buy Coors/Bud.
Weed will be the same way.
ChesusRice
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Big tobacco cant grow better than you? Why? becuase you have millions to invest in breeding, genetic engineering and the acreage to experiment?
Why yes there are micro brews all over. And guess what? They are regulated by a whole alphabet of goverment agencys. BTW how much is a license to run a micro brewery?
Who would buy that shit? Any one that wants to buy a pack of Marlboro 420s that is 50% thc and cost 5 bucks a pack before taxes. How much you think you can get for your Boutique 18% thc swhag? And can you flavor it with menthol?
Bubbagineer
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Sad, but true. When the Tobacco companies jump in I believe that will be exactly their aim. Mass produced, ultra high THC content, probably flavored lol you're dead on
ChesusRice
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Actuallty their first act would be to ensure they corner the market. And lobbying politicians with millions of dollars will do that. They will enact regulations that make it illegal to grow your own pot and sell it without permitting and regulation. And if you want to join in on the fun Be prepared to fork out hundreds of thousands of dollars before you even sell the first ounce or you are likly to spend time in prison and pay hefty fines
Bubbagineer
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I still believe a niche will exist for what with beer would be called craft brewers....
ChesusRice
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Again craft brewers have to put a lot of money up front for regulatory fees and have to be licensed and all
Bubbagineer
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I hear you and actually did not miss reading that in your post above. For better or worse we do have the FDA,etc. to deal with. And yes I know there will be an entry fee. But I don't know of many businesses that don't have fees to go along with initial capital costs in a start up. The question is, how big will the fee be... One things for certain, there are folks (other than banks) with money that will bet on a good business plan and product, especially if the ROI is good, which it will be for a niche high end weed operation, just like it is for craft breweries... Just ask our Guv.
Have a great day!
Have a great day!
ChesusRice
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I agree. However for Joe schmoe. It ain't gonna happen
Trousers
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You said they could grow 10X stronger weed than I can. I say that is fiction.
Do you have any links to back up anything you claimed?
Even if they could pull that off, which they can't, I won't buy it. Why would I?
If they are doing anything with cannabis besides talking about it, they are in violation of federal law. Even talking about it could be conspiracy.
I don't know and I don't care to find out. My pot is great. I am allowed to grow it by the state of Colorado. It is in the State constitution. The feds can not change that.
"Shwag," lol.
There is no reason to be rude.
Where is this 50% thc fantasy weed?
You are engaged in paranoid fiction. It is neither productive nor realistic. You have nothing to back it up besixdes your imagination.
I don't flavor my weed, nor do I sell it. Why would I?
Are you a drug dealer and worried about your income? Too bad, deal with it.
Again, do you have anything to back up your paranoid fantasies?
If our current government is disbanded and our Constitutions (state and federal) are suspended, I will be more sympathetic to your stories. Until then I will grow and smoke my shwag and not worry about such outlandish things.
ChesusRice
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So you can afford million dollar investments into GMO? Breeding?
Yes the weed they will produce along with the additives will make your weed schwag. And they will be able to do it cheaper. They will also have the distribution systems already in place and the politicians in their Pocket. You think you're special but you are not.
Again I ask you to try a simple experiment.
Grow some tobacco and try selling it legally
Zenster
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http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/s/regulate-marijuana-alcohol-act-2012
(II) A SCHEDULE OF APPLICATION, LICENSING AND RENEWAL FEES, PROVIDED, APPLICATION FEES SHALL NOT EXCEED FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, WITH THIS UPPER LIMIT ADJUSTED ANNUALLY FOR INFLATION, UNLESS THE DEPARTMENT DETERMINES A GREATER FEE IS NECESSARY TO CARRY OUT ITS RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THIS SECTION, AND PROVIDED FURTHER, AN ENTITY THAT IS LICENSED UNDER THE COLORADO MEDICAL MARIJUANA CODE TO CULTIVATE OR SELL MARIJUANA OR TO MANUFACTURE MARIJUANA PRODUCTS AT THE TIME THIS SECTION TAKES EFFECT AND THAT CHOOSES TO APPLY FOR A SEPARATE MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENT LICENSE SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO PAY AN APPLICATION FEE GREATER THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO APPLY FOR A LICENSE TO OPERATE A MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION;
$5,000 for now doesn't seem too steep.
(II) A SCHEDULE OF APPLICATION, LICENSING AND RENEWAL FEES, PROVIDED, APPLICATION FEES SHALL NOT EXCEED FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, WITH THIS UPPER LIMIT ADJUSTED ANNUALLY FOR INFLATION, UNLESS THE DEPARTMENT DETERMINES A GREATER FEE IS NECESSARY TO CARRY OUT ITS RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THIS SECTION, AND PROVIDED FURTHER, AN ENTITY THAT IS LICENSED UNDER THE COLORADO MEDICAL MARIJUANA CODE TO CULTIVATE OR SELL MARIJUANA OR TO MANUFACTURE MARIJUANA PRODUCTS AT THE TIME THIS SECTION TAKES EFFECT AND THAT CHOOSES TO APPLY FOR A SEPARATE MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENT LICENSE SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO PAY AN APPLICATION FEE GREATER THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO APPLY FOR A LICENSE TO OPERATE A MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION;
$5,000 for now doesn't seem too steep.
ChesusRice
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Kinda change my Mind if they can keep it like Michigan. They have farmers markets. For now
Zenster
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Big tobacco has a long wait before they can ge into this. By the time they do, the connoisseur market will be filled; thus, they will have to compete with local producers. My prediction is they will assume the low end market, replacing mexican imports. There will always be a lower class market and big tobacco will do nicely to supply its demand.
Zenster
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I envisioned something along those lines as well. It would be great if that is how it played out, but I doubt it will, especially with Colorado's for profit model pre 70/30.
Chimone
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I completely agree. However you know damn well that if the decision to make it federally legal is made, the politicians will of already let Monsato, Marlboro, etc etc become aware of the decision way before anyone else. Big money likes to keep its money
Trousers
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Can you back that up with something besides your over active imagination?
Even if that were actually possible, why would I buy mass manufactured weed when I can grow it in my basement for less than $10 an ounce? How is my weed shwag compared to the weed with "additives"? What additives?
Again?
I don't like tobacco, so no thanks.